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Isolator Supreme	10-Jun-2014 20:36        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Believe me.... Fish will jump to above 50ct and drift higher.... Tmr markets will show you.... Enjoy... Leongsan      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 19:42) Posted: My posting made sometime ago when there were noise,  NOW IS LOUD. THE PRICE WILL DRIFT UNTIL it is known that how much of the Quota is caught, el nino etc.See my post below. You make money by watching price of fish meal, site I had posted, How much is the catch please all look out. Mid May 550,000 tons raw fish was landed. Blind faith does not catch china fish Cheers Isolator      ( Date: 04-Jun-2014 10:16) Posted: Markets has proven you wrong when it rebounded.... Now I will let the markets to prove you wrong on your hope... Enjoy..
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stockpicker Master	10-Jun-2014 20:20        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So are you going to advise what should be brought up for discussion in this forum and what should not   in the name of today' s advancement in the   Technology and Science.  Lets heard from your valued contribution so that we can all benefit from your wisdom and start buying up CF tomorrow...   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rate This Post:   Useful To Me    Not Useful To Me  EZ3626 Member 10-Jun-2014 14:51         About EZ3626         Contact           Quote!               x 0 x 0 Alert Admin ..... Technology and science is so advance now. It is so wrong to bring those data to confuse others
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Leongsan Senior	10-Jun-2014 19:42        Leongsan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My posting made sometime ago when there were noise,  NOW IS LOUD. THE PRICE WILL DRIFT UNTIL it is known that how much of the Quota is caught, el nino etc.See my post below. You make money by watching price of fish meal, site I had posted, How much is the catch please all look out. Mid May 550,000 tons raw fish was landed. Blind faith does not catch china fish Cheers Isolator      ( Date: 04-Jun-2014 10:16) Posted: Markets has proven you wrong when it rebounded.... Now I will let the markets to prove you wrong on your hope... Enjoy... Leongsan      ( Date: 04-Jun-2014 10:11) Posted: In all likely behavour, it will test around 34 before moving upwards nearer August , when the fishing season ends. You think the invisible had collected enough, bearing in mind shares owned by listed entities cannot be moved. Isolator is hoping and praying. Has never seen facts or basis posted. We should be here to help each other, at all we want to make some money however small it maybe.
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EZ3626 Veteran	10-Jun-2014 14:51        EZ3626 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	J213, you are quite merciful and gracious. 1998 to 2014, the gap is 16 years. Tremendous great difference, I am not sure internet is around then. We probably won' t be blogging here. Iphone, Samsung ... not even in the market. Hehe Technology and science is so advance now. It is so wrong to bring those data to confuse others   JMS213      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 10:09) Posted: When someone quoted " YEAR 1998 which is the year that El-Nino was most severe" The person has left out other surrounding facts. Let me point out some :  We are in YEAR 2014. There is a gap of 6 years. Technology has changed tremendously. Then 1998 and now 2014, can someone tell us. what version is now for Iphone, Samsung or whatever ? How has the economy of Peru change during this 6 years ?  Just this 2 so the soft facts are missing. Why are they kept away ? We know liquidity of the company is improving and they have consolidated their position. Equilibrium is positive   JMS213      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 09:40) Posted: Cars are made with a windscreen wide and clear so we can look into the future ahead of us and a rear mirror small but big enough to guide our direction when we filter. When we have someone who have the reverse, windscreen small and a huge rear mirror, you know that person is bringing everyone on board, heading into a collison.  My prayer is that they will not end in a collision but move where the future (Equilibrium) is. You still have time to change gear.  Never did they said they will not achieve their catch for the season. Quote what T2 said " Peru is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and one of their main export is fishmeal." Do you think they will let the industry suffer and affect Peru' s economy ? The fish did not disappear, they move south. All indicators are still green. Be patience and enjoy
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stockpicker Master	10-Jun-2014 11:38        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This El Nino in 1997 covered the whole of Peru plus Chile http://www.vox.com/cards/el-nino-2014/will-we-get-strong-el-nino Will this coming El-Nino be as bad?    Let see but our  temperature is being push higher and higher by El-Nino since 1980
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stockpicker Master	10-Jun-2014 11:22        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And that picture was in 2003 when El-Nino was just a  moderate one.. trying to find one that happened in 1998..
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Isolator Supreme	10-Jun-2014 11:20        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I will let markets tell you..... Enjoy...
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stockpicker Master	10-Jun-2014 11:17        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do you know how serious is El-Nino?  It spreaded from Southern China to middle Australia..  This one shows that Peru was not spared totally.. http://rmrco.com/cruise/ata/reports/100410_ElNino1/index.html   JMS213      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 11:04) Posted: Do you know how long is the coast of Peru before it reaches Chile ? Please take a look at the map. They are request to extend the 5km limit set. Singapore east to west 22.5km. Do you know how big is Peru compared to Singapore ? Enjoy stockpicker      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 10:56) Posted: El-Nino was there since the 16th century. The Peru fishermen were the ones who came up with that name. Since then,  the technologies has changed.  They have better trawlers and fishing equipment.   They have sonic sensors that can track the   where-about of the fishes.  They have also satellites that can tell the fishermen exactly where the fishes in the South but one thing the technologies cannot do is to change the weather,  the El-Nino  that is going to happen in the coming months. When the fishes swim south,  it will benefit Chile but sad to say,  Chile is also affected badly by El-Nino as this is a Global event that very few can avoid from the disastrous results. One thing for sure,    the technlogies will help the aqua-cultural fish farm to   become even stronger after the El-Nino when the fish supplies from the sea dwindled down and the fish consumptions picks up.   Some species which may be too expensive to rear in aqua-cultural fish farms before will become possible when the price of fishes goes up due to El-Nino. This will make companies that solely depend on sea fishing and sea catch more difficult to survive.  There was a common saying before we have reliable weather forecast of El-Nino.  That is if one wants to know when El-Nino will come,   check with the Peruvian Fishermen.       I am quite sure those former management of Copeinca and other Peru fishing companies knew about the seriousness of the coming   El-Nino and they are more than happy to dispose off their assets.  They must have gone through the hardships experienced during the last El-Nino in 1998.     They were probably laughing their ways to the banks right now.
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JMS213 Senior	10-Jun-2014 11:04        JMS213 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do you know how long is the coast of Peru before it reaches Chile ? Please take a look at the map. They are request to extend the 5km limit set. Singapore east to west 22.5km. Do you know how big is Peru compared to Singapore ? Enjoy stockpicker      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 10:56) Posted: El-Nino was there since the 16th century. The Peru fishermen were the ones who came up with that name. Since then,  the technologies has changed.  They have better trawlers and fishing equipment.   They have sonic sensors that can track the   where-about of the fishes.  They have also satellites that can tell the fishermen exactly where the fishes in the South but one thing the technologies cannot do is to change the weather,  the El-Nino  that is going to happen in the coming months. When the fishes swim south,  it will benefit Chile but sad to say,  Chile is also affected badly by El-Nino as this is a Global event that very few can avoid from the disastrous results. One thing for sure,    the technlogies will help the aqua-cultural fish farm to   become even stronger after the El-Nino when the fish supplies from the sea dwindled down and the fish consumptions picks up.   Some species which may be too expensive to rear in aqua-cultural fish farms before will become possible when the price of fishes goes up due to El-Nino. This will make companies that solely depend on sea fishing and sea catch more difficult to survive.  There was a common saying before we have reliable weather forecast of El-Nino.  That is if one wants to know when El-Nino will come,   check with the Peruvian Fishermen.       I am quite sure those former management of Copeinca and other Peru fishing companies knew about the seriousness of the coming   El-Nino and they are more than happy to dispose off their assets.  They must have gone through the hardships experienced during the last El-Nino in 1998.     They were probably laughing their ways to the banks right now.
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Isolator Supreme	10-Jun-2014 11:03        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Believe me.... Fish will be 50ct soon.... Enjoy....
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stockpicker Master	10-Jun-2014 10:56        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	El-Nino was there since the 16th century. The Peru fishermen were the ones who came up with that name. Since then,  the technologies has changed.  They have better trawlers and fishing equipment.   They have sonic sensors that can track the   where-about of the fishes.  They have also satellites that can tell the fishermen exactly where the fishes in the South but one thing the technologies cannot do is to change the weather,  the El-Nino  that is going to happen in the coming months. When the fishes swim south,  it will benefit Chile but sad to say,  Chile is also affected badly by El-Nino as this is a Global event that very few can avoid from the disastrous results. One thing for sure,    the technlogies will help the aqua-cultural fish farm to   become even stronger after the El-Nino when the fish supplies from the sea dwindled down and the fish consumptions picks up.   Some species which may be too expensive to rear in aqua-cultural fish farms before will become possible when the price of fishes goes up due to El-Nino. This will make companies that solely depend on sea fishing and sea catch more difficult to survive.  There was a common saying before we have reliable weather forecast of El-Nino.  That is if one wants to know when El-Nino will come,   check with the Peruvian Fishermen.       I am quite sure those former management of Copeinca and other Peru fishing companies knew about the seriousness of the coming   El-Nino and they are more than happy to dispose off their assets.  They must have gone through the hardships experienced during the last El-Nino in 1998.     They were probably laughing their ways to the banks right now.
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JMS213 Senior	10-Jun-2014 10:09        JMS213 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When someone quoted " YEAR 1998 which is the year that El-Nino was most severe" The person has left out other surrounding facts. Let me point out some :  We are in YEAR 2014. There is a gap of 6 years. Technology has changed tremendously. Then 1998 and now 2014, can someone tell us. what version is now for Iphone, Samsung or whatever ? How has the economy of Peru change during this 6 years ?  Just this 2 so the soft facts are missing. Why are they kept away ? We know liquidity of the company is improving and they have consolidated their position. Equilibrium is positive   JMS213      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 09:40) Posted: Cars are made with a windscreen wide and clear so we can look into the future ahead of us and a rear mirror small but big enough to guide our direction when we filter. When we have someone who have the reverse, windscreen small and a huge rear mirror, you know that person is bringing everyone on board, heading into a collison.  My prayer is that they will not end in a collision but move where the future (Equilibrium) is. You still have time to change gear.  Never did they said they will not achieve their catch for the season. Quote what T2 said " Peru is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and one of their main export is fishmeal." Do you think they will let the industry suffer and affect Peru' s economy ? The fish did not disappear, they move south. All indicators are still green. Be patience and enjoy T2LE56      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 12:53) Posted: http://www.chinafeedonline.com/global/info/fishmeal.jsp  as below :     China Peruvian Fishmeal RMB Price Report Week 23 2014-06-04 12:03:39.0  ChinaFeedOnline.com - CFO China Fishmeal Exclusive Report J W Xie   China" Peruvian Fishmeal " Cash Market by Ports  #23   China main ports Peruvian fishmeal Week  23 RMB Price Week  22 RMB Price Changes RMB Price Dalian Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Tianjin Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Shanghai Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Huangpu Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Remark  : - The prices are an indication investigated by ChinaFeedOnline.com  (CFO)  port agents and price changes is weekly basis. - exchange rate: US$1 : RMB 6.2  (about) Market Feedback : We welcome your comments and inputs  the fishing/quota in your country.  To contact reporter or  China  License registration, please email: JW Xie email:  support@21cfo.com
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JMS213 Senior	10-Jun-2014 09:40        JMS213 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Just living is not enough. One must have sunshine, freedom !"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cars are made with a windscreen wide and clear so we can look into the future ahead of us and a rear mirror small but big enough to guide our direction when we filter. When we have someone who have the reverse, windscreen small and a huge rear mirror, you know that person is bringing everyone on board, heading into a collison.  My prayer is that they will not end in a collision but move where the future (Equilibrium) is. You still have time to change gear.  Never did they said they will not achieve their catch for the season. Quote what T2 said " Peru is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and one of their main export is fishmeal." Do you think they will let the industry suffer and affect Peru' s economy ? The fish did not disappear, they move south. All indicators are still green. Be patience and enjoy T2LE56      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 12:53) Posted: http://www.chinafeedonline.com/global/info/fishmeal.jsp  as below :     China Peruvian Fishmeal RMB Price Report Week 23 2014-06-04 12:03:39.0  ChinaFeedOnline.com - CFO China Fishmeal Exclusive Report J W Xie   China" Peruvian Fishmeal " Cash Market by Ports  #23   China main ports Peruvian fishmeal Week  23 RMB Price Week  22 RMB Price Changes RMB Price Dalian Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Tianjin Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Shanghai Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Huangpu Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Remark  : - The prices are an indication investigated by ChinaFeedOnline.com  (CFO)  port agents and price changes is weekly basis. - exchange rate: US$1 : RMB 6.2  (about) Market Feedback : We welcome your comments and inputs  the fishing/quota in your country.  To contact reporter or  China  License registration, please email: JW Xie email:  support@21cfo.com
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srichipan Master	10-Jun-2014 09:30        srichipan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Huat Isolator      ( Date: 10-Jun-2014 09:22) Posted: Start the music....... Enjoy...
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Isolator Supreme	10-Jun-2014 09:22        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Start the music....... Enjoy...
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stockpicker Master	10-Jun-2014 08:15        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The 1989 should be read as 1998 which is the year that El-Nino was most severe stockpicker      ( Date: 09-Jun-2014 19:59) Posted: This is the early days of the El-Nino where prediction is only 70%.. it still have 2 to 3 months to go before more accurate prediction can be certain.. by then full EL Nino would have developed. http://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/climate/forecasts/enso/current/ We all know that when El-Nino is here,  it will not only affect fish catch but  also fish meal production.      In 1989,  the fish meal production dropped from 200 to about 60.. However,  that El-Nino in 1989 was not the only   problem.. the problem was that the fish meal production have not been recovered since then.. and Copeinca' s former management knew this..
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foucs69 Veteran	09-Jun-2014 20:55        foucs69 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i will follow u......................... Isolator      ( Date: 09-Jun-2014 20:54) Posted: I am not kidding..... Fish is going above 50ct..... Enjoy...
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Isolator Supreme	09-Jun-2014 20:54        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am not kidding..... Fish is going above 50ct..... Enjoy...
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stockpicker Master	09-Jun-2014 19:59        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is the early days of the El-Nino where prediction is only 70%.. it still have 2 to 3 months to go before more accurate prediction can be certain.. by then full EL Nino would have developed. http://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/climate/forecasts/enso/current/ We all know that when El-Nino is here,  it will not only affect fish catch but  also fish meal production.      In 1989,  the fish meal production dropped from 200 to about 60.. However,  that El-Nino in 1989 was not the only   problem.. the problem was that the fish meal production have not been recovered since then.. and Copeinca' s former management knew this..
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Qanghoo Supreme	09-Jun-2014 19:16        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Current preditions have it that an EN, which appears to be more and more likely to happen, wld be weak to moderate rather than severe.  Also, the impact on loss in catches wld be mitigated by    expected resilience in fishmeal and fish oil prices.  Still, Copeinca' s profits are likely to be affected.  That' s why expect   CFG' s share price to be capped for sometime.  stockpicker      ( Date: 09-Jun-2014 17:08) Posted: Thought your intrinsci figure was $0.70 just about few months before? The trouble with intrinsic calculation basically requires one to project what is the future growth for the next 5 to 10 years.  Many formula assumed a linear straightline growth of 10% and the result is usually better than it looked. Copeinca is now facing a serious test.. that an El-Nino that is going to be worse than 1989.  This El-Nino will last till 2015.  There may be disastrous events in which billions of losses will likely to happen damaging properties and affecting the fishery catch.    In 1989 alone,  Peru&rsquo s 7% GDP or over $2 billions were lost due to El-Nino.  Annual catch was reduced by 80% to about 1.2 millions from an average of 3 millions.     The effect was so severe that   the Peruvian government restrict fishing quotas.   Seasonal bans were introduced to allow fish to spawn and this was dreaded by most fishermen today.   China Fishery was fined recently for catching the juvenile anchovy and then dumping into the sea and spotted by the Peruvian Inspectors.  Just wondering what would the intrinsic calculation tells us if we were to assume that the growth of Copeinca might be a negative figure for year 2014/15 and thereafter,  taking a few years to nurse the losses?   srichipan      ( Date: 09-Jun-2014 14:19) Posted: Yeah watch it hit 50cents. My calculation tally with Iso. This time I believe him
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