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Phil13 Member	09-Jun-2014 00:08        Phil13 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	HK and China same lah. No diff ... tomorrow sell
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EZ3626 Veteran	09-Jun-2014 00:03        EZ3626 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You guys just all out to confuse others. China Fishery is not a S-chip company. Good night   flyfox      ( Date: 31-May-2014 09:29) Posted: Just to clarify, China Fishery is not an S-chip although it has the word ' China' . It is a HK based company. divads      ( Date: 31-May-2014 08:41) Posted: strange.. u trade shares.. u buying china fishery which I am eyeing too. I know china fishery is high risk as it is a s-chip. With what is happening to YZJ, this one is now even higher risk, but i find it strange u dun expect high returns from CPF... at least for china fishery i can sell it anytime i want. For example, I can sell it now with the YZJ scandal. But CPF u cannot take out, isn' t it even higher risk? U go to a bank and put a 30 years fixed deposit which DOES NOT allow u to terminal before maturity. Do u accept 2.5 % for ur 30 years fixed deposit? What is the reasonable interest rate u think shd be for a 30 years fixed deposit which u are forced in black and white contract that u cannot withdraw before 30 years is up.?
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Phil13 Member	09-Jun-2014 00:00        Phil13 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are right, china fishery is a crap s chip company. scandalous company ... be careful.  stockpicker      ( Date: 08-Jun-2014 17:52) Posted:       If one remembers the China Forestry Holdings' s scandal,  one should know that the Carlyle Group has about 1 billion shares or one of the largest shareholders in China Forestry.. This counter was suspended  in Hong Kong Exchange since 2012 and the US authorities is still probing.. Not saying that Carlye Group was wrong in CF investment.  they are not Gods and they  made mistakes.    Good to rely on our own judgement whenever we can.  CF has very high debts but it   is not that bad a counter compare to some as it has  a product that  has a demand if there are no alternatives.  It is just that weather at the moment is not kind to CF.  Just hope they can go through this hardest   period  so that they can scale to another height and be the future star of SGX..      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ .............................. Right now is the time to accumulate this stock. Dont forget, this company is back by  The Carlyle Group  .   As long as the funds are still supporting the company, there isn' t any issue to press the alarm buttons.  ....     ShareJunction Version: 27 Mar 2014 - All Rights Reserved. Copyright ShareJunction Pte. Ltd. Disclaimer: All prices from are delayed. ShareJunction does not provide you with any financial advice. We are not into the business of providing any investment advice. Please click here to see the Terms & Conditions of using this website. Data is delayed for varying periods of time depending on the exchange, but for at least 15 minutes. Copyright © SIX Financial Information Ltd.
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tanglinboy Elite	08-Jun-2014 22:07        tanglinboy About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "hello!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	S chip... sigh
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stockpicker Master	08-Jun-2014 17:54        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The link http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704322804576302813788597234
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stockpicker Master	08-Jun-2014 17:52        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If one remembers the China Forestry Holdings' s scandal,  one should know that the Carlyle Group has about 1 billion shares or one of the largest shareholders in China Forestry.. This counter was suspended  in Hong Kong Exchange since 2012 and the US authorities is still probing.. Not saying that Carlye Group was wrong in CF investment.  they are not Gods and they  made mistakes.    Good to rely on our own judgement whenever we can.  CF has very high debts but it   is not that bad a counter compare to some as it has  a product that  has a demand if there are no alternatives.  It is just that weather at the moment is not kind to CF.  Just hope they can go through this hardest   period  so that they can scale to another height and be the future star of SGX..      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ .............................. Right now is the time to accumulate this stock. Dont forget, this company is back by  The Carlyle Group  .   As long as the funds are still supporting the company, there isn' t any issue to press the alarm buttons.  ....     ShareJunction Version: 27 Mar 2014 - All Rights Reserved. Copyright ShareJunction Pte. Ltd. Disclaimer: All prices from are delayed. ShareJunction does not provide you with any financial advice. We are not into the business of providing any investment advice. Please click here to see the Terms & Conditions of using this website. Data is delayed for varying periods of time depending on the exchange, but for at least 15 minutes. Copyright © SIX Financial Information Ltd.
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Isolator Supreme	07-Jun-2014 23:09        Isolator About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Panic buying next week.... Enjoy...
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Stockguru17 Member	07-Jun-2014 21:15        Stockguru17 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China Fishery is a undervalued stock. Those that are scared please stay away!!! Keep those pesermistic comments to yourself.  As the saying goes.... " Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful. " Right now is the time to accumulate this stock. Dont forget, this company is back by  The Carlyle Group  .   As long as the funds are still supporting the company, there isn' t any issue to press the alarm buttons.  As of December 31, 2012, Carlyle had $170 billion in assets under management across 113  funds  and 67 fund of fund vehicles.  According to a 2011 ranking called the  PEI 300  based on capital raised over the last five years, Carlyle was ranked as the third largest  private equityfirm in the world.
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stockpicker Master	07-Jun-2014 19:33        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Moody said Andes owns only 46.5% of China Fish only?  who is correct? https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-China-Fisherys-postponed-redemption-of-Copeinca-bonds-has-no--PR_301252 The company is 46.5% effectively owned by the Pacific Andes group, through Pacific Andes International Holdings Ltd (PAIH), a Hong Kong-listed integrated fish and seafood products processor. The Carlyle Group, a global alternative asset management firm, holds an 11.1% stake in China Fishery. If CF' s debt/ebitda  is more than 4.0,  it will be B2 rating.. now it is 5.5.. and this was the adjusted debt/ebitda..after accounting those not normally accountable..  the normal  debt/ebitda will be much higher.. Andes has improved its debt/ebitda this year after having sold Tasle and earn a bit more but its debt is still  high.  If Moody has a credit rating for Andes,  it will also be B2 rating..not sure how much Andes can help CF and if Andes' s shareholders prepared to " bail out" CF if CF is having trouble.  CF deferred its Copeinca bond payment  due to cash flow.  The bond holders were disappointed thinking that the bridging loan was recently for redeemping the bonds...Moody was  kind in their wordings..the bond prices must have slumped.. https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-China-Fisherys-postponed-redemption-of-Copeinca-bonds-has-no--PR_301252
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T2LE56 Senior	07-Jun-2014 14:16        T2LE56 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Pacific Andes has 70% stake in China Fishery. The next credit rating will be good for China Fishery. stockpicker      ( Date: 06-Jun-2014 16:29) Posted: The mother also not doing well... http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/05/27/pacific-andes-profit-dives-49-plans-to-further-consolidate-processing-ops/
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Leongsan Senior	07-Jun-2014 14:11        Leongsan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Peru Fishing Landing June 3, 2014 (Peru Quota Usage and Landing Result 3 June 2014) can open these? T2LE56      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 12:53) Posted: http://www.chinafeedonline.com/global/info/fishmeal.jsp  as below :     China Peruvian Fishmeal RMB Price Report Week 23 2014-06-04 12:03:39.0  ChinaFeedOnline.com - CFO China Fishmeal Exclusive Report J W Xie   China" Peruvian Fishmeal " Cash Market by Ports  #23   China main ports Peruvian fishmeal Week  23 RMB Price Week  22 RMB Price Changes RMB Price Dalian Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Tianjin Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Shanghai Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Huangpu Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Remark  : - The prices are an indication investigated by ChinaFeedOnline.com  (CFO)  port agents and price changes is weekly basis. - exchange rate: US$1 : RMB 6.2  (about) Market Feedback : We welcome your comments and inputs  the fishing/quota in your country.  To contact reporter or  China  License registration, please email: JW Xie email:  support@21cfo.com
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RoundRound Elite	07-Jun-2014 14:01        RoundRound About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Tikam Tikam can also"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	From what I know, what Pacific Andes make in profit, China Fishery don' t gain any. But the reverse is true, what China Fishery make, Pacific Andes gain from it as its substantial shareholder. Correct me if I' m wrong  T2LE56      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 13:47) Posted: Pacific Andes unit to sell stake in salmon producer for  S$112.8m and hails 100% gain on Tassal stake sale. They are sound in their investment.  Peru on the hand is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade.   If they have brought the fishing season early by one month, they will do it again. Bear in mind, Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and one of their main export is fishmeal.  It is annoying to have people posting nonsense.  Nemo me impune lacessit   is the  Latin  motto of the  Order of the Thistle  and of three  Scottish regiments  of the  British Army. " Like the  thistle, anyone trying to cut it gets a handful of painful barbs." Like what Isolator has said " Those who sell will have to buy back higher .... Enjoy .... I believe this week the market will punish those culprits.
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T2LE56 Senior	07-Jun-2014 14:00        T2LE56 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Peru is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade.   If they have brought the fishing season early by one month, they will do it again. Bear in mind, Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and one of their main export is fishmeal. China Peruvian Fishmeal RMB Price is going higher and higher Report Week 21, 22, 23    Pacific Andes unit sold stake in salmon producer for    S$112.8m and hails 100% gain on Tassal stake sale. They are sound in their investment.  It is annoying to have people posting nonsense.   Nemo me impune lacessit     is the Latin  motto of the Order of the Thistle  and of three Scottish regiments of the British Army. " Like the thistle, anyone trying to cut it gets a handful of painful barbs."   Like what Isolator has said " Those who sell will have to buy back higher .... Enjoy .... " I believe this week the market will punish those culprits.
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T2LE56 Senior	07-Jun-2014 13:47        T2LE56 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Pacific Andes unit to sell stake in salmon producer for  S$112.8m and hails 100% gain on Tassal stake sale. They are sound in their investment.  Peru on the hand is an emerging, market oriented  economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade.   If they have brought the fishing season early by one month, they will do it again. Bear in mind, Peruvian economic performance has been tied to exports and one of their main export is fishmeal.  It is annoying to have people posting nonsense.  Nemo me impune lacessit   is the  Latin  motto of the  Order of the Thistle  and of three  Scottish regiments  of the  British Army. " Like the  thistle, anyone trying to cut it gets a handful of painful barbs." Like what Isolator has said " Those who sell will have to buy back higher .... Enjoy .... I believe this week the market will punish those culprits.
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lawliet Member	07-Jun-2014 13:22        lawliet About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi. Sorry didn' t manage to copy the whole news. phone max copy size too small. ooops stockpicker      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 11:16) Posted: Hi.. what was disclosed is only the 1st half,  the 2nd half is more interesting not disclosed for some reasons.  The 2nd part meant to say  if the regulation is not relaxed,  the catch would suffer.. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ &ldquo It is crucial that the legislation is updated as soon as possible, because otherwise our industry will  suffer a severe contraction  for sure,&rdquo Conterno warned. During the first season of 2014, which ends in less than eight and a half weeks, the sector has fished merely 25% or  625,980 metric tons out of a total quota of 2.53 million metric tons. SNP expects that the final catch could approach the 950,000 figure, missing out at least 28% of the catch limit. &ldquo The impact of the regulation put in place is too hard. Five years ago, Peru fished as much anchovy as Chile, but last year our captures were a third of what the Chileans caught,&rdquo said Conterno. The institute of studies of the sea in Peru, Imarpe, announced it has carried out an investigation over anchovy stocks and the effects of climate change. It is set to publish its conclusions by July. Imarpe noted that a high rate of juveniles would probably lead the government to maintain the 5-mile fishing restriction.
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T2LE56 Senior	07-Jun-2014 12:53        T2LE56 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.chinafeedonline.com/global/info/fishmeal.jsp  as below :     China Peruvian Fishmeal RMB Price Report Week 23 2014-06-04 12:03:39.0  ChinaFeedOnline.com - CFO China Fishmeal Exclusive Report J W Xie   China" Peruvian Fishmeal " Cash Market by Ports  #23   China main ports Peruvian fishmeal Week  23 RMB Price Week  22 RMB Price Changes RMB Price Dalian Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Tianjin Super Prime 68% 11,800 &ndash 11,900 11,500 + 300/mt Standard 65% 10,800 10,500 + 300mt Shanghai Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Huangpu Super Prime 68% 11,600  &ndash 11,700 11,400  &ndash 11,500 + 200/mt Standard 65% 10,700 10,400 + 300mt Remark  : - The prices are an indication investigated by ChinaFeedOnline.com  (CFO)  port agents and price changes is weekly basis. - exchange rate: US$1 : RMB 6.2  (about) Market Feedback : We welcome your comments and inputs  the fishing/quota in your country.  To contact reporter or  China  License registration, please email: JW Xie email:  support@21cfo.com
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Leongsan Senior	07-Jun-2014 12:11        Leongsan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.chinafeedonline.com/global/info/fishmeal.jsp How to crack lock items? stockpicker      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 11:44) Posted: For those who have difficulties reading from undercurrent because the limit is reached.. just copy the title and google search.. once you find the item,  click the small arrow next to address shown in google search,  then select " Cache" .. you will see the undercurrent pages with no restriction.
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stockpicker Master	07-Jun-2014 11:44        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For those who have difficulties reading from undercurrent because the limit is reached.. just copy the title and google search.. once you find the item,  click the small arrow next to address shown in google search,  then select " Cache" .. you will see the undercurrent pages with no restriction.
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stockpicker Master	07-Jun-2014 11:16        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi.. what was disclosed is only the 1st half,  the 2nd half is more interesting not disclosed for some reasons.  The 2nd part meant to say  if the regulation is not relaxed,  the catch would suffer.. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ &ldquo It is crucial that the legislation is updated as soon as possible, because otherwise our industry will  suffer a severe contraction  for sure,&rdquo Conterno warned. During the first season of 2014, which ends in less than eight and a half weeks, the sector has fished merely 25% or  625,980 metric tons out of a total quota of 2.53 million metric tons. SNP expects that the final catch could approach the 950,000 figure, missing out at least 28% of the catch limit. &ldquo The impact of the regulation put in place is too hard. Five years ago, Peru fished as much anchovy as Chile, but last year our captures were a third of what the Chileans caught,&rdquo said Conterno. The institute of studies of the sea in Peru, Imarpe, announced it has carried out an investigation over anchovy stocks and the effects of climate change. It is set to publish its conclusions by July. Imarpe noted that a high rate of juveniles would probably lead the government to maintain the 5-mile fishing restriction.
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Leongsan Senior	07-Jun-2014 09:26        Leongsan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks lawliet      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 09:22) Posted: Industrial fishing of anchovy beyond 5-mile limit key to sector, claim Peruvian companies June 6, 2014, 5:50 pm Undercurrent News The Peruvian national association of fishing companies, SNP, said captures of anchovy within the legal 5- mile distance from the shore had dramatically dropped, and an extension was urgently needed, news agency Andina reported. Since 2012, only fishing for direct human consumption is allowed between waters at 5 miles to 10 miles. But SNP chairwoman Elena Conterno said the global warming was increasing temperatures of the Peruvian waters and pushing the resource to the south, further from the limits envisaged by the law. Leongsan      ( Date: 07-Jun-2014 09:16) Posted: Can someone open this and post the full text please http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/06/06/industrial-fishing-of-anchovy-beyond-5-mile-limit-key-to-sector-claim-peruvian-companies/
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