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Observers Elite	02-Jun-2014 08:25        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If someone tells you a shre price will drop from point A to point B, but he didn' t sell his house, car, wife and take a 2nd mortgage to short from point A to point B, then you better take the advice with a pot of salt.
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Oldbird Master	02-Jun-2014 08:13        Oldbird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are right bro, it is a good opportunity for the trader to trade. Unfortunately it is not what we are good at！ Cheers Demostation      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 08:01) Posted: Don' t be one-sided.   Follow the trend.   If opens too low, buy and if opens too high sell.
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Demostation Supreme	02-Jun-2014 08:01        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t be one-sided.   Follow the trend.   If opens too low, buy and if opens too high sell.
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Oldbird Master	02-Jun-2014 07:59        Oldbird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hello Cheong, long time no see.. These are my views: YZJ stock price will be under pressured till the dust is settled which will take some times The solid book orders n delivery can not be fake.. This company wont die even Ren quit under the worst case. Accordingly all their lending business are fully morgate backed n generally are with personal guarantee. As a investor, we can look to buy more if our exposure is bearable... If not, reduce exposure or take some chips off table?come back when we have clearer picture Cheers guys cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 06:52) Posted: I don' t have crystal ball, and I don' t play god, so what make you think that it will be below $1 this week, if it does not. I don' t like to tell people you can do A and follow by B. because if both event are 50% chances of happening then you are actually betting on 25% chance event will follow what you think. If I believe the stock is good, why should I sell in the first place. What make the confident to buy the stock when it go lower? jj7007      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 12:42) Posted: But u can be smart, sell and buy back cheaper. U could have sold at 1.065 and buy back at 1.005. U earn 6% in 2 hrs. U can even buy back next week below $1. The $1 will not hold, and we may see 97c at opening and test 95.5c. My view is we will see 90c being tested, especially with instituitional investors dumping.
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Demostation Supreme	02-Jun-2014 07:56        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I agree.   Follow the trend.   No action, short or long will depend on how they are moving the prices.   Of course, if you are in either long or short, watch out for reversals that can happen fast and furious due to different schools of thoughts and each others' strength. KepoChicken      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 07:47) Posted: What I can say is .. see the trend...if every1 is selling... really no point for you to stubborn to keep.... I am GUO LAI REN..   cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 06:52) Posted: I don' t have crystal ball, and I don' t play god, so what make you think that it will be below $1 this week, if it does not. I don' t like to tell people you can do A and follow by B. because if both event are 50% chances of happening then you are actually betting on 25% chance event will follow what you think. If I believe the stock is good, why should I sell in the first place. What make the confident to buy the stock when it go lower?
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acetron Member	02-Jun-2014 07:53        acetron About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	short seller - BEWARE........
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KepoChicken Master	02-Jun-2014 07:47        KepoChicken About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What I can say is .. see the trend...if every1 is selling... really no point for you to stubborn to keep.... I am GUO LAI REN..   cheongsl      ( Date: 02-Jun-2014 06:52) Posted: I don' t have crystal ball, and I don' t play god, so what make you think that it will be below $1 this week, if it does not. I don' t like to tell people you can do A and follow by B. because if both event are 50% chances of happening then you are actually betting on 25% chance event will follow what you think. If I believe the stock is good, why should I sell in the first place. What make the confident to buy the stock when it go lower? jj7007      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 12:42) Posted: But u can be smart, sell and buy back cheaper. U could have sold at 1.065 and buy back at 1.005. U earn 6% in 2 hrs. U can even buy back next week below $1. The $1 will not hold, and we may see 97c at opening and test 95.5c. My view is we will see 90c being tested, especially with instituitional investors dumping.
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Demostation Supreme	02-Jun-2014 07:26        Demostation About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t   worry about YZJ. They just cleared the air to SGX. Additionally, they announced a new delivery.   Check it out on SGX-ST.
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cheongsl Master	02-Jun-2014 06:52        cheongsl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don' t have crystal ball, and I don' t play god, so what make you think that it will be below $1 this week, if it does not. I don' t like to tell people you can do A and follow by B. because if both event are 50% chances of happening then you are actually betting on 25% chance event will follow what you think. If I believe the stock is good, why should I sell in the first place. What make the confident to buy the stock when it go lower? jj7007      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 12:42) Posted: But u can be smart, sell and buy back cheaper. U could have sold at 1.065 and buy back at 1.005. U earn 6% in 2 hrs. U can even buy back next week below $1. The $1 will not hold, and we may see 97c at opening and test 95.5c. My view is we will see 90c being tested, especially with instituitional investors dumping. cheongsl      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 07:40) Posted: To short seller there is every possiblility to create fear, I will not sell my portion as there is no reason for this panic.
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Qanghoo Supreme	02-Jun-2014 06:21        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No smoke without fire.  Wld anyone make very serious false allegations out of mischief without any cause.  Surely there must  have been  something not very pleasant which sparked this episode.  Even if the present allegations do not involve YZJ but have some truth, then the  person being accused can' t be a saint - in which case cld there be some hanky-panky activities in JZJ which are  still  well hidden so far?
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Ronron Member	01-Jun-2014 23:31        Ronron About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So that's the risk u take. For China Eratat there were a few tell tale signs, like borrowing at super high interest rates of 33% when u are in a net cash position. The accounts tell a story. Yzj accounts so far so good, is like Ren baby, he grow up as a laborer in it then now rise to CEO position. Of cos we can say it's the greatest bluff he pull on investors. That's why I say everyone is entitled to their opinion and there's no way anyone can convince each other. The only way is to see the verdict at the market tmr. Bull and bear will fight. Who got the most moolah will win. I believe most of the selling is triggered by stop loss instructions on the institutional side. If they are eager to cover their short positions, tmr will be price recovery. Let's see the money tmr. divads      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 23:14) Posted: either he is as what u say, an honest chap or he is truely a master in deception which is not uncommon in china :) so many s-chip scandals caught alot of investors by surprise becos there was no indication that anything was wrong with the company or the CEOs. If investors would tell earlier, then there would not be any s-chips scandal becos all would have sold their shares already. U look at Eratat, 2nd in most transparent awarded by SIAS (local, not any china organisation). Who would have expected the CEO to be a crook? Ronron      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 23:04) Posted: Some of us who follow him for some time know him to be a frugal person who don't drive sports car, stay in a yzj owned apartment (now upgrade to condo) and believe in rewarding his staff and eating at the staff canteen with them. Also, the way he do business is client first then shareholders. I find it hard to believe that he got no integrity. The business conflict is something that always happens, those of u who own private companies with partners will know that when the relationship turn sour, in the end, it's about legal fights. Of cos everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But in the stock market, u got the moolah, u speak the loudest. Doomsayers, u must do your best tomorrow.
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KepoChicken Master	01-Jun-2014 23:24        KepoChicken About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	YZJ 1st quarter result still got RMB 2,908 million in bank... Dun be surprise... later investigate... left RMB 2.90... See Eratat...
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divads Member	01-Jun-2014 23:14        divads About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	either he is as what u say, an honest chap or he is truely a master in deception which is not uncommon in china :) so many s-chip scandals caught alot of investors by surprise becos there was no indication that anything was wrong with the company or the CEOs. If investors would tell earlier, then there would not be any s-chips scandal becos all would have sold their shares already. U look at Eratat, 2nd in most transparent awarded by SIAS (local, not any china organisation). Who would have expected the CEO to be a crook? Ronron      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 23:04) Posted: Some of us who follow him for some time know him to be a frugal person who don't drive sports car, stay in a yzj owned apartment (now upgrade to condo) and believe in rewarding his staff and eating at the staff canteen with them. Also, the way he do business is client first then shareholders. I find it hard to believe that he got no integrity. The business conflict is something that always happens, those of u who own private companies with partners will know that when the relationship turn sour, in the end, it's about legal fights. Of cos everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But in the stock market, u got the moolah, u speak the loudest. Doomsayers, u must do your best tomorrow.
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mindfocus Member	01-Jun-2014 23:12        mindfocus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	" To err is but human" , but the law must still apply.
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Ronron Member	01-Jun-2014 23:04        Ronron About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Some of us who follow him for some time know him to be a frugal person who don't drive sports car, stay in a yzj owned apartment (now upgrade to condo) and believe in rewarding his staff and eating at the staff canteen with them. Also, the way he do business is client first then shareholders. I find it hard to believe that he got no integrity. The business conflict is something that always happens, those of u who own private companies with partners will know that when the relationship turn sour, in the end, it's about legal fights. Of cos everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But in the stock market, u got the moolah, u speak the loudest. Doomsayers, u must do your best tomorrow.
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Guojing Member	01-Jun-2014 22:55        Guojing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In china bribery can also death sentence ...oh no ... I hope he bo dai chi ..
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Ronron Member	01-Jun-2014 22:53        Ronron About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U guys won't be able to convince each other, bull and bear will fight it out tmr, u have to show your weight with the money. Doomsayers vs Ren followers, 10 hours more, your verdict will be out. Whether serious or not, market will show. Based on hankore movement, early morning will sell down before recovery. Hope got chance to buy cheap! Cheers to everyone!
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mindfocus Member	01-Jun-2014 22:45        mindfocus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Worst case senario for Chairman Ren will be, clean backside and prepare to go jail.
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Guojing Member	01-Jun-2014 22:43        Guojing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Same old tricks...news published few days ago ..Friday katek than come in ..if tmr management come out say bo dai chi .. Prices may reverse ..I hope those vested huat ah!!
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divads Member	01-Jun-2014 22:31        divads About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hankore rises again is due to RTO deadline approaching and ppl are betting the RTO will be finalised this weekend. Deadline suppose to be 31 May 2014. Passed already. If tomorrow morning still no news yet or extend again, what happens to the price? Ronron      ( Date: 01-Jun-2014 22:01) Posted: This looks like a repeat of the hankore forum, same case, Friday sell down and sat and Sunday pple argue. Many doomsayers appear. First people fighting over who is right, then got TA show sell signals. When yzj is ok, shadow banking no one talk about it. One strange news out, and all the doomsayers start talking about shadow banking and all that. Then there was this forumer themanu who talked about china eratat also in the hankore thread. After that, look at where is hankore now. And the doomsayers, somehow magically disappear. Guys, no need to debate. U won't be able to convince each other. Tmr bull and bear will fight. Use money to talk easier.
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