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earlybird14 Supreme	27-Feb-2014 15:56        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Instead of buying, they may be selling it before go worse! ascend88      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 15:43) Posted: Directors and CEO ...should come out to buy up the own company shares now.....if they believe in what they are doing and believe in the future of the company... This is another role of the Directors and CEO....
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Lucky03 Elite	27-Feb-2014 15:54        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Totally agreed ! ascend88      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 15:43) Posted: Directors and CEO ...should come out to buy up the own company shares now.....if they believe in what they are doing and believe in the future of the company... This is another role of the Directors and CEO....
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ascend88 Master	27-Feb-2014 15:48        ascend88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	in army terms.....Lead by example.....
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ascend88 Master	27-Feb-2014 15:45        ascend88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	walk the talk.....
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ascend88 Master	27-Feb-2014 15:43        ascend88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Directors and CEO ...should come out to buy up the own company shares now.....if they believe in what they are doing and believe in the future of the company... This is another role of the Directors and CEO....
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Dreamy Member	27-Feb-2014 15:10        Dreamy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	finally I took it out from the deep freeze yesterday, defrost a little then cut
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earlybird14 Supreme	27-Feb-2014 15:01        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	95cents is overpriced. A loss making company shall trade below 50 to 70% its NAV value. 50 to 70cents should be the NOL price.
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Lucky03 Elite	27-Feb-2014 14:54        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will he buy when NOL hits his target price of 0.95 ? Probably not. Guess he will now wait for 0.91 alongside you. If NOL has slightest chance of a rebound and he didn't enter, he will probably says he 'should have'. Whatever, he has been proven right now. darthiliator      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 10:57) Posted: That guy who say 95 prediction came true. Wonder my 91 will come true or not.
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Azzaramich Member	27-Feb-2014 14:46        Azzaramich About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	4th and 5th Evergreen and Cosco are unprofitable.   In fact, I think Cosco loss was the largest among China's SOEs.   Will the top 3 wipe out the rest in the world.   I am not so sure. NOL will have to find its niche.
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Lucky03 Elite	27-Feb-2014 14:45        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I'm one too and holding. Azzaramich      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 13:57) Posted: LOL, I am one of them. enjoylife77      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 12:32) Posted: Many retailer jump into NOL because its only 2-3 months ago many analyst issue buy call based on the 'recovery theme'.  The warning were already high on the wall yet retailer falls for their scheme. Now you know why research house makes $billions  every year?   One must do own research from various sources to have a balanced, unbiased view.
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earlybird14 Supreme	27-Feb-2014 14:28        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.alphaliner.com/top100/  - junk of new vessels are going to deliver APL is under NOL. Maesrk - Profitable with billion  dollars  http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ABEA-3GG91Y/2983347166x0x706308/9ca47280-2dbe-4407-9211-91aabca80994/Interim_Report_Q3_2013.pdf MSC - not a listed company, result no release CMA-CGM - Profitable with few hundred million  in 2012 & 2013  http://www.cma-cgm.com/static/Finance/PDFFinancialRelease/2013%20-%20Q3%20-%20Financials.pdf 2 of top 3 perform well.
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Azzaramich Member	27-Feb-2014 13:57        Azzaramich About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	LOL, I am one of them. enjoylife77      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 12:32) Posted: Many retailer jump into NOL because its only 2-3 months ago many analyst issue buy call based on the 'recovery theme'.  The warning were already high on the wall yet retailer falls for their scheme. Now you know why research house makes $billions  every year?   One must do own research from various sources to have a balanced, unbiased view.
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Azzaramich Member	27-Feb-2014 13:50        Azzaramich About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The price decline silences many supporters.
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earlybird14 Supreme	27-Feb-2014 12:54        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No reason for Maersk to buy over NOL which is very high debt with numerous outdated vessels. Their operation cover where NOL cover too. If they want vessels, they can order the most efficient and advance vessels from Korea shipyard. China boom in the past cause over capacity now. Industry consolidation is required. NOL is one of the worst performer in the same industry, by right shall be the one to go off. moneycow      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 11:49) Posted: Since maersk does so well, can   it offer to buy over NOL   to have " economy of scale........." RTO........ like MS bought NOKIA, a one time giant............. same scenario...... Maybe offer per share $1.30 .....a chance for holders to get their capital back.......  earlybird14      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 09:48) Posted: NOL has no cash to privatise. They only can beg Temasek to privatise it. As per current market, no company is willing to buy over NOL which lose few hundred million annually, and lose more over 1billion dollar in 3 year short time. Without Temasek as the major shareholder backing behind, NOL has become penny stock and all banks are in panic to chase the borrowing back from them. Maersk has made billion dollar in 2013, they can navigate with deteriote operation environment in 2014. NOL who still made loss in 2013, she will just report another few hundrew million of loss. All 10,000 TEU one generation behind are going to delivered in 2014. Shipyard is going to chase for the billion dollar payment. Cash in bank will be empty. Don't be over-optimise in this company. Worst is not coming yet
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enjoylife77 Veteran	27-Feb-2014 12:32        enjoylife77 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Many retailer jump into NOL because its only 2-3 months ago many analyst issue buy call based on the 'recovery theme'.  The warning were already high on the wall yet retailer falls for their scheme. Now you know why research house makes $billions  every year?   One must do own research from various sources to have a balanced, unbiased view.
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moneycow Elite	27-Feb-2014 11:49        moneycow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Since maersk does so well, can   it offer to buy over NOL   to have " economy of scale........." RTO........ like MS bought NOKIA, a one time giant............. same scenario...... Maybe offer per share $1.30 .....a chance for holders to get their capital back.......  earlybird14      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 09:48) Posted: NOL has no cash to privatise. They only can beg Temasek to privatise it. As per current market, no company is willing to buy over NOL which lose few hundred million annually, and lose more over 1billion dollar in 3 year short time. Without Temasek as the major shareholder backing behind, NOL has become penny stock and all banks are in panic to chase the borrowing back from them. Maersk has made billion dollar in 2013, they can navigate with deteriote operation environment in 2014. NOL who still made loss in 2013, she will just report another few hundrew million of loss. All 10,000 TEU one generation behind are going to delivered in 2014. Shipyard is going to chase for the billion dollar payment. Cash in bank will be empty. Don't be over-optimise in this company. Worst is not coming yet! Lucky03      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 03:57) Posted: Do not rule out the possibility of taking NOL private. After all, they did diverted F&N. the price may be around $1.12, assuming 10% above its NTA of $1.01 (US$0.80) and near its recent high. Of course, if it triggers off a bidding war like F&N, that will be more interesting :)
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darthiliator Senior	27-Feb-2014 11:43        darthiliator About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I agree, the only catalyst is it's next quarterly report in May, so can you imagine from now to May no Catalyst to push it up. I cannot imagine where is it's bottom.
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moneycow Elite	27-Feb-2014 11:40        moneycow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Its definitely not an attack from external. Its holders loosing their confidence and feel insecure parking their cash   here. And it gets diluted as times   go on........  One of the darling of stock market,   once upon a time ...over $2.50 NOW.......   95 cents also don't know can hold or not.... things become very unsure uncertain...:( Zelphon      ( Date: 27-Feb-2014 10:55) Posted: NOL kanna attacked today..   Sianz... Think I can put his into freezer liaoooo
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moneycow Elite	27-Feb-2014 11:37        moneycow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Loose for 3 years consecutively........... PUT on watch list................ One of the giant............... Impossible to turn in profits in a short time of a year............... Deli-sting is imminent ............. impossible to turn into profits within 3 years..........with no new strategy or other income diversification......depending on contaner shipping   .....alone is si sure one..............pow si one... maybe needed a maricle........ If don't get out now, though price looks low at 95 cts. Hard to cut lost but if hold,   and it falls   to 80 cents even worst........... HOW ?  Really in between......... no catalyst to push it up......... Its only hopefully can hold and not fall further...but if a don't sell B will sell first.......kind of situation...
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darthiliator Senior	27-Feb-2014 10:57        darthiliator About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That guy who say 95 prediction came true. Wonder my 91 will come true or not.
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