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Rosesyrup
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09-Dec-2013 19:42     
 
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hmphie      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 19:40) Posted:

Is there a timeline to your 6.2 TP?

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:21) Posted:



lol 6.2cents is my personal TP only not confirm de.

DYODD :
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hmphie
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09-Dec-2013 19:40     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Is there a timeline to your 6.2 TP?

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:21) Posted:



lol 6.2cents is my personal TP only not confirm de.

DYODD :)

HVRRVH      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:03) Posted:

If can realise 6.2 cents I don't mind hold for as long as 1 year. Hopefully it move up slowly but surely.
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Rosesyrup
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09-Dec-2013 18:21     
 
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lol 6.2cents is my personal TP only not confirm de.

DYODD :)

HVRRVH      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:03) Posted:

If can realise 6.2 cents I don't mind hold for as long as 1 year. Hopefully it move up slowly but surely.

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:01) Posted:



Vested too.

Price go up cos:
  1. Profit warning expected.
  2. Blumont starts recovering.


Hope this solve the mystery.

Still waiting for 6.2cents
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HVRRVH
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09-Dec-2013 18:03     
 
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 Alert Admin 		If can realise 6.2 cents I don't mind hold for as long as 1 year. Hopefully it move up slowly but surely.

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:01) Posted:



Vested too.

Price go up cos:
  1. Profit warning expected.
  2. Blumont starts recovering.


Hope this solve the mystery.

Still waiting for 6.2cents.

HVRRVH      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:57) Posted:

Profit warning and the share price go up? It's a strange world but I am not complaining. Vested.
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nngeeh
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09-Dec-2013 18:02     
 
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 Alert Admin 		They did, but they didn't subscribed all. Before rights, they were holding 9.97%, but after the rights exercise, their current holding are 9.74%. If they didn't subscribed, the percentage will be been 6.64% (calculation based on increase number of shares by 50% due to 1 rights for 2 share).

hmphie      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:52) Posted:

The swap was tactical indeed. However, I don't think they subscribed to the rights.

nngeeh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:14) Posted:

Sun Spirit is being sued. I believe it is a tactical move by IPCO to protect itself from the lawsuit (and to keep the shares of Blumont). At the current price, IPCO has made 100% gains on the Blumont rights that they had subscribed at 0.05)
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09-Dec-2013 18:01     
 
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Vested too.

Price go up cos:
  1. Profit warning expected.
  2. Blumont starts recovering.


Hope this solve the mystery.

Still waiting for 6.2cents.

HVRRVH      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:57) Posted:

Profit warning and the share price go up? It's a strange world but I am not complaining. Vested.
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HVRRVH
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09-Dec-2013 17:57     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Profit warning and the share price go up? It's a strange world but I am not complaining. Vested.
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09-Dec-2013 17:52     
 
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 Alert Admin 		The swap was tactical indeed. However, I don't think they subscribed to the rights.

nngeeh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:14) Posted:

Sun Spirit is being sued. I believe it is a tactical move by IPCO to protect itself from the lawsuit (and to keep the shares of Blumont). At the current price, IPCO has made 100% gains on the Blumont rights that they had subscribed at 0.05).

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:10) Posted:

Hmm yea you are right. Missed out that announcement. Strange then.. Who would buy SSGL then.. Unless it is holding something else other then the deemed interest due to collateral pledged for margin financing.
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09-Dec-2013 17:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		ok glad to know ipco not that stupid

nngeeh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:14) Posted:

Sun Spirit is being sued. I believe it is a tactical move by IPCO to protect itself from the lawsuit (and to keep the shares of Blumont). At the current price, IPCO has made 100% gains on the Blumont rights that they had subscribed at 0.05).

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:10) Posted:

Hmm yea you are right. Missed out that announcement. Strange then.. Who would buy SSGL then.. Unless it is holding something else other then the deemed interest due to collateral pledged for margin financing.
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 Alert Admin 		Sun Spirit is being sued. I believe it is a tactical move by IPCO to protect itself from the lawsuit (and to keep the shares of Blumont). At the current price, IPCO has made 100% gains on the Blumont rights that they had subscribed at 0.05).

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:10) Posted:

Hmm yea you are right. Missed out that announcement. Strange then.. Who would buy SSGL then.. Unless it is holding something else other then the deemed interest due to collateral pledged for margin financing.

nngeeh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:01) Posted:



I just checked the  below url, and it  stated that on 11 Nov, Sun Spirit had transferred 185768 lots to IPCO. IPCO still owns around 10% of Blumont.

  http://blumont.listedcompany.com/stock_insider.html/year/2013/trader_type/SSH
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09-Dec-2013 17:10     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Hmm yea you are right. Missed out that announcement. Strange then.. Who would buy SSGL then.. Unless it is holding something else other then the deemed interest due to collateral pledged for margin financing.

nngeeh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:01) Posted:



I just checked the  below url, and it  stated that on 11 Nov, Sun Spirit had transferred 185768 lots to IPCO. IPCO still owns around 10% of Blumont.

  http://blumont.listedcompany.com/stock_insider.html/year/2013/trader_type/SSH

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 16:36) Posted:

If I am not wrong, SSGL is the holding company for Blumont's stock under IPCO. So selling 70% of SSGL equates to giving up 70% of Blumont. Think it has already been sold. There was no need for shareholder's approval since the disposal is less than 80%. So yea..


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09-Dec-2013 17:08     
 
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 Alert Admin 		if they really did sell 70% of their 10% holdings in blumont, then they deserve a real hard spanking..

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 16:36) Posted:

If I am not wrong, SSGL is the holding company for Blumont's stock under IPCO. So selling 70% of SSGL equates to giving up 70% of Blumont. Think it has already been sold. There was no need for shareholder's approval since the disposal is less than 80%. So yea..

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I just checked the  below url, and it  stated that on 11 Nov, Sun Spirit had transferred 185768 lots to IPCO. IPCO still owns around 10% of Blumont.

  http://blumont.listedcompany.com/stock_insider.html/year/2013/trader_type/SSH

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 16:36) Posted:

If I am not wrong, SSGL is the holding company for Blumont's stock under IPCO. So selling 70% of SSGL equates to giving up 70% of Blumont. Think it has already been sold. There was no need for shareholder's approval since the disposal is less than 80%. So yea..

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09-Dec-2013 16:54     
 
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09-Dec-2013 16:49     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Oops... you are right. So, IPCO will move on its own destiny. Good and bad but at least can chart its own course and focus on its energy business and the others more tangible stuff. Hope it learns its lesson on the treatment of fair value recognition.

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 16:36) Posted:

If I am not wrong, SSGL is the holding company for Blumont's stock under IPCO. So selling 70% of SSGL equates to giving up 70% of Blumont. Think it has already been sold. There was no need for shareholder's approval since the disposal is less than 80%. So yea..

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 Alert Admin 		If I am not wrong, SSGL is the holding company for Blumont's stock under IPCO. So selling 70% of SSGL equates to giving up 70% of Blumont. Think it has already been sold. There was no need for shareholder's approval since the disposal is less than 80%. So yea..
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09-Dec-2013 16:34     
 
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i thought ipco didnt sell? it just get itself readied to dispose anytime.. correct me if im wrong

" As SSGL still holds a current portfolio of quoted securities, the disposal of 70% of the issued and paid up share capital of SSGL allows the Group to immediately monetise its indirect holdings of such quoted securities whilst allowing the Group to retain a stake to enjoy any future potential increase in value of such quoted securities."

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 16:23) Posted:

Don't forget that ipco sold much of blumont already lol..at rock bottom prices.

Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 15:51) Posted:

If Blumont rises above 0.10, then IPCO should return to 0.02
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09-Dec-2013 16:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		U mean the 70% of Sun spirit that they let go = blumont?

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 16:23) Posted:

Don't forget that ipco sold much of blumont already lol..at rock bottom prices.

Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 15:51) Posted:

If Blumont rises above 0.10, then IPCO should return to 0.02
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09-Dec-2013 16:23     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Don't forget that ipco sold much of blumont already lol..at rock bottom prices.

Lucky03      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 15:51) Posted:

If Blumont rises above 0.10, then IPCO should return to 0.021

Bigmama      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 15:25) Posted:

Then 2 cent it will be for ipco. Lo
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 Alert Admin 		If Blumont rises above 0.10, then IPCO should return to 0.021

Bigmama      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 15:25) Posted:

Then 2 cent it will be for ipco. Lol

qwertyuiop00      ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 13:25) Posted:

Haha I'm just guessing only. Ipco is probably placing a very big bet on blumont, if blumont can solve all its problems and start its mining activities soon, probably we will see the mother of all comebacks, but if blumont fails, then I think blumont and ipco will just stay in the doldrums forever, blumont especially not gonna see the sunlight, haha just my 2 cent
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