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banana
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02-Nov-2013 17:10
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u really knw hw to copy and paste! | ||||||||||||
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Lucky03
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02-Nov-2013 00:56
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Spain's Outlook Changed to Stable From Negative by Fitch
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Bluevaio
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01-Nov-2013 16:51
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Friend u r 100% right. See who created cars, computers, phones, and etc....? The ang mo ! They open their factories in asia, we manufacture for them, and then they sell back to us . Who got the money? Funny right? 
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sgng123
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01-Nov-2013 16:24
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SCFI soars 240pt again another US$1000 GRI successful very kelong thing. Carriers controls the market and when they get enough market share and kick out the weak players, they would gang up and push rate very high to recover 3 years of loss. watch it. low season still can get very big gri through, very shady business environment not open no transparency. Ship price can swing very wild when world economy recovers. | ||||||||||||
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heisuke
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01-Nov-2013 15:58
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i wish it can really go up to $2 :)
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ascend88
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01-Nov-2013 15:12
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yes....ah kong company.... and ah kong will not come in...just for u and me.... but once ah kong wants money....and he will come in.....at that time u will not know what hit u.... ride the wave....good luck bro...
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Hawkeye
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01-Nov-2013 12:36
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BB is GIC - 150+billion and Temasek - 200 +billion Most NOL shares is hold by BB. Not much floating. One sneeze NOL price go up to $2.00 liao Ah Gong says work hard dont just get money from share market, that is why NOL is still at 1.05 to 1.08
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sgng123
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01-Nov-2013 12:15
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Agreed Singapore government had poured in US4Billion dollars for fleet renewal program, as usual those big ticket purchase always yield result in long term as per Singapore norm. SIA also another big support from government US$17 Billion for fleet renewal and changi airport renewal. Singapore is trading, financial and commerce city, investing in logistic/financial/transportation stock could never go wrong always got ah gong backing. | ||||||||||||
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Rosesyrup
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31-Oct-2013 22:22
Yells: "Get your own opinion, don't follow blindly." |
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Doesn't matter whether profit low or high, above or below expectation. The fact that NOL is finally able to produce OPERATING profit after 4 years of operating losses, prove the viability of this business. And the quarter report is already good enough to give certainty over future cashflow and profit which would be translated into present  share price. Sure have other  BBs who know how to appreciate the potential of this counter.
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sgng123
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31-Oct-2013 22:13
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It is 2009 all over again low freight rate and low growth. Hope 2014 would be another 2010 with world economy recover for good. So much central bank easing for the last 2 years and inflation remain low, slow growth all due to political uncertainty in US and Europe. | ||||||||||||
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Lucky03
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31-Oct-2013 16:17
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Buy for future. I believe NOL may see its worst. Bet on Europe recovery.
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WanSiTong
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31-Oct-2013 14:13
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Neptune Orient Lines - No respite from freight rate woes Written By Stock Fanatic on Thursday, October 31, 2013 ? Rate restorations on Asia-Europe in June-July helped container liner division to break even in 3Q13 ? But results still slightly below as Intra-Asia rates plunged owing to capacity cascading from mainlanes ? Current spot rates on Asia-Europe are back at panic levels again , but no major capacity reduction measures seen
Highlights
Muted peak season, as expected. NOL reported headline net profit of US$20m in 3Q13, compared to our expectations of about US$12m, but this includes about US$34m realized forex gains, and hence results are slightly worse than expected. Liner volumes were down 5% y-o-y, and interestingly 5% q-o-q as well, despite it being the traditional peak season.
Intra-Asia volumes were the worst affected (down 12% q-o-q) as were Intra-Asia rates (down 7% q-o-q), possibly due to the cascading of capacity from the mainlanes. Asia-Europe rates recovered on average by 10% q-o-q as a result of the rate restoration programmes in June-July, and combined with NOL?s cost control measures, resulted in better operating performance compared to 2Q. However, profits are likely to be short-lived, as we explain below. Our View
Rates are quickly back to the bottom. We had highlighted earlier that we do not expect the July rate increases to stick beyond 3Q. As it turned out, spot Asia-Europe rates started falling sharply from end-August and at US$661/ TEU now, are down 60% since early August. The rate plunge is largely due to carriers? failure to keep capacity in check, with the introduction of new 13,000-18,000 TEU ships in the last few months.
Though liners have variously announced rate increases ranging from US$600-1,000 per TEU from 1st November, we expect the impact to be short-lived, as no capacity reduction measures for the low season has been announced, unlike last year, when Maersk, G6 and CKYH Alliances had taken off loops.
Technical Analysis
Recommendation
Unfavourable demand-supply dynamics continue to persist. We keep our numbers relatively unchanged and maintain our HOLD call on the stock, with an adjusted TP of S$1.10, pegged to 1.0x FY14P/BV. Despite hopes of a slow economic recovery, we do not think NOL will be able to achieve normalised returns before FY15, given the influx of capacity still scheduled to enter the industry, going forward. (Read Report)
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Hawkeye
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31-Oct-2013 13:14
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The reality is Asians are all Slaves. We work hard to make good stuffs for the Whiteman who are so smart that they create something called money to pay us and IOU. We keep those IOU and keep working very hard to make good things for them. They only need to print paper to pay us for it and have nice good life with good quality of life and We Asians are so stupid that we keep working hard and keep those paper money in the bank and being so happy about it without enjoying the life. So Trading the Best no need to work and just make money and quicky spend to enjoy life. Dont follow the Goverment and Asians in particular Ha Ha Ha Ha
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sgng123
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31-Oct-2013 11:53
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this is realty guys if not for fed reserve QE, the whole world would be in depression. Just need to see the weak global demand for good and u know. If next year US and Europe economy do not recover and fed reserve pull out, worldwide market crash STI can sliced in half to 1500. | ||||||||||||
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Teochew
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31-Oct-2013 11:39
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Suggest NOL to invite the former staff, Mr Goh C T or Mr Lim B H to steer the company, release the  3 stars general to go back to  army camp.  By doing this, hope the  company can make profit.  | ||||||||||||
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Rosesyrup
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31-Oct-2013 11:32
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=.=  first time earn real OPERATING  money*** but  still not moving   ***Previously money was from selling headquarter lol
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wait4opp
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31-Oct-2013 10:18
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Neptune Orient Lines: Disappoint Peak Season Hold, $1.06 - TP $1.01 NOL SP | Mkt Cap USD2.2b | ADTV USD3.0m Ø NOL reported 3QFY13 net profit of USD20m (2QFY13: -USD35m, 3QFY12: +USD50m). While staying profitable was commendable under the challenging business environment, we note that its bottom line was artificially lifted by an USD33.9m foreign exchange gain. Ø As indicated by the spot driven Shanghai Containerized Freight Index (SCFI), industry rates are now comparable to levels reached in 4QFY11, which is a quarter when NOL reported huge losses of USD320m. With continued CAPEX spending and sustained pressure on margins, we forecast increasing leverage and expect NOL to end FY14E with a net gearing of 1.8x. Hence, we believe that NOL will suspend dividend payments for the next two years and do not rule out a round of fundraising to shore up its weakened balance sheet. Ø We cut our earnings forecast to reflect the weak rate environment and project another year of losses in FY14. We roll forward our valuation basis and derive our TP of SGD1.01 based on 1.0x FY14E BVPS. Maintain Hold. | ||||||||||||
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wait4opp
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31-Oct-2013 10:15
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Hedge Fund is targeting this counter. Too bad when they are targeting this counter with expectation that the results under market expectation. Take care....Good luck if you still vested. My view |
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heisuke
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31-Oct-2013 09:58
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why no increase :( | ||||||||||||
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Octavia
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31-Oct-2013 09:23
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NOL released 3Q13 results which were below estimates. Net profit came in at US$20m (-60% y/y and versus a net loss of US$35m q/q), although this was boosted largely by a US$32m worth of forex gains. Without the one-off gain, 3Q13 would have been a loss making quarter, driven by a 5% decline in trade volume and 9% contraction in rates, with revenue coming in at US$2.1b (-10% y/y, -0.1% q/q) While the industry managed to push through a decent amount of peak season rate hike in 3Q13, spot rates have declined sharply in recent weeks post peak season, with rates on the Shanghai Containerized Freight Index (SCFI) now comparable to levels reached in 4Q11, which was a quarter when NOL reported huge losses of US$320m. Due to the cash outlay to fund its ongoing fleet renewal, Maybank-KE estimates that NOL?s net gearing level could reach a high of 1.6x at the end of the quarter, with continued CAPEX spending and sustained pressure on margins. As such the house expects a further increase in leverage, and for NOL to end FY14E with a net gearing of 1.8x. Hence, the house believes that NOL could suspend dividend payments for the next two years and do not rule out a round of fundraising to shore up its weakened balance sheet. Overall, Maybank-KE cut its earnings forecast to reflect the weak rate environment and project another year of losses for NOL in FY14, noting that while ongoing cost cutting initiatives by NOL will lower average slot cost, expected depressed freight rates will likely keep profitability in check. Latest broker ratings as follows: Maybank-KE maintains Hold with TP $1.01 Deutsche maintains Hold with TP $1.03 CIMB upgrades to Neutral from U/p with TP $1.16 UOB Kay Hian maintains Buy with TP $1.30 CS maintains U/p with TP $0.95 |
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