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14-Apr-2026 22:28
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No , this write up is not about what' s driving up the price today.... juz posting for fun...... ' anyway, can smell the brew already...... hehe   it' s here ! ==== The proposed spin-off and listing of  Guangxi Yuchai Marine and Genset Power Co  on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange is a transformative move game changer for  Hong Leong Asia. Greedy people would think, if I' m not getting free shares, why should I be excited? Well.think again,  this listing drives value, earnings, and growth for HLA and its shareholders, in many ways...... 1. Enhancing HLA' s Value ~  Unlocking Hidden Treasures:  MGP is HLA' s crown jewel, boasting a  15% net margin ~  nearly four times higher than the group' s overall average.  A separate listing allows the market to value MGP independently, likely at a much higher P/E multiple than a traditional industrial conglomerate. ~  Once MGP is listed in Hong Kong, HLA' s stake will have a transparent market value. This often forces a re-rating of the parent company' s stock as investors realize  the sum of the parts is worth more than the current share price. 2. Boosting Earnings & Future Growth ~ Very much AI-relevant and  Capturing the Data Centre Boom:  MGP is the  #1 supplier  of power generation engines in China. It is perfectly positioned to provide backup power for the massive rollout of  AI data centres, a sector expected to grow by nearly  19% annually  through 2030. ( Now, you BEGINNING to understand, why list in HK!) ~  High-Margin Marine Sector:  As the #2 player in China&rsquo s marine engine market, MGP is riding the wave of shipping fleet renewals and the shift toward greener, high-tech engines. ~  Financial Independence:  As a standalone entity, MGP can raise its own capital for R& D and factory expansion. This keeps MGP aggressive in the market  without draining HLA' s cash reserves, allowing HLA to grow its other businesses  (like building materials) simultaneously. 3. Strategic " Trump-Proofing" & Market Focus ~  China Market Dominance:  The listing solidifies MGP' s brand in China, making it the " go-to" provider for critical domestic infrastructure. ~  Tariff Insulation:  By listing the engine business in Hong Kong, HLA creates a " China-for-China" and " China-for-ASEAN" growth engine. This isolates these high-growth assets from potential  U.S. trade tariffs, as MGP' s primary customers are in the AI, data centre, and regional maritime sectors rather than the U.S. consumer market. 4. Ultimate Benefits for HLA Shareholders ~  Dividend Potential:  With MGP funding its own growth, HLA' s balance sheet becomes leaner. Analysts anticipate this could lead to higher payouts, with forecasts suggesting a  25% increase in dividends  (up to S$0.05 per share). ~  Share Price Recovery:  The recent drip" in price below S$3.00 is largely due to regulatory delays and a localized probe. The actual listing acts as a  clearing event ~  once the IPO is approved, it removes the uncertainty discount currently weighing on the stock.  ~The spin-off includes management incentive schemes. When MGP&rsquo s leadership performs well to drive their own share price, HLA shareholders win because HLA remains the ultimate parent. Why YOU should be EXCITED, very excited The market is watching for a " Value Unlock."   HLA is currently viewed as a slow-moving industrial giant after the listing,  it will be seen as the parent of a  high-tech, high-margin power leader  at the heart of the AI revolution. |
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13-Apr-2026 15:41
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Since there' s interest, and since you asked, I shall talk a little..... remember, if you want real news and sensible predictions , stay with the gangsters views, and not some roadside peddlers wild speculations.... Last year, the black market predicted price would hit three only in the first quarter THIS YEAR (the posts are still here and in the other thread, go read them), yet when the stock was getting hotter and hotter towards last quarter of LAST YEAR , many roadside mercenaries were peddling Three dollar in October, November, December ..... what happen?.... anyway, below is the view from the coffee shop to your concern...... it is not from the black market people which is more stylo and tokkong, but that' s all I got for the time being, but I think good enough..... when the green light is given, I will talk why four is potentially possible, I think I know why   but now not the time to talk..... ========== To have an complete understanding for a long term interest, it is essential to note the  regulatory overhang  that has caused Hong Leong Asia' s   share price to soften recently. While the business fundamentals remain strong, specific events in China have introduced a layer of risk that has temporarily cooled investor enthusiasm. The Regulatory Overhang: Why the Price Dropped after a short surge in anticipation of good results The primary reason for the recent share price drip to below  S$3.00  is not a lack of profit, but rather  governance uncertainty  in China: ~  In October 2025, authorities in China detained  Wu Qiwei, a director of HLA' s main subsidiary (China Yuchai), and the former chief accountant of the operating unit, for " serious violations of discipline and law" . This news caused an immediate  20.6% plunge  in HLA' s shares. ~  Although HLA' s daily operations remain uninterrupted, the fact that a key leader is under disciplinary review by Chinese authorities has created a persistent regulatory overhang. Investors are naturally cautious about potential broader implications or further management changes. ~  Market Sentiment vs. Earnings:  Interestingly, HLA reported a  48.6% surge in net profit  for H2 2025, yet the share price continued to fall. This reflects a market that is currently prioritizing " headline risk" and regulatory clarity over financial performance. (This one actually copied from the Business Times. Why the  Guangxi Yuchai Marine and Genset Power (MGP)  Listing is Stalling The listing of  Guangxi Yuchai Marine and Genset Power (MGP)  is currently navigating a stricter regulatory environment:  ~  As of April 2026, the  China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC)  has requested supplementary materials regarding the company' s controlling shareholders and controllers. This is part of a broader trend where Chinese regulators are tightening the criteria for mainland firms to sell shares in Hong Kong to ensure higher deal quality. But to my mahjong kaki, it' s no problem la. In fact he told us to pang sim la. ~  While the application was filed in January 2026, the vetting process is taking longer than some investors anticipated due to these additional information requests.  Consolidated Value & Growth Roadmap for Shareholders Despite these hurdles, the long-term case for HLA remains anchored in the " Value Unlock" Why the market should (eventually) get excited: The current price dip offers a potential entry point for  those who believe the  internal probe is localized  and the  listing will proceed.  Once the CSRC clears the supplementary materials and the IPO date is set, the regulatory overhang is expected to lift, shifting the market' s focus back to HLA' s record-breaking earnings. Sometimes, people like the newbies cannot see the forest, focusing instead only on the tree. While they are selling, the coffee shop uncles are quietly accumulating. There is always a reason why the mafia bosses are enjoying lobster, birdnest and abalone meals, and why you guys can only afford hawker foods.....  
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13-Apr-2026 12:15
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Guangxi Yuchai Marine file their HKG IPO application on Jan 26 It' s almost 3 mths  Anytime the announcment whether approved or not  
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13-Apr-2026 11:16
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Just pulled out the chart for HLA.  All the starts seem to be aligned to make its move towards 350. Well done to shareholders of HLA.  |
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13-Apr-2026 10:54
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Any news about Wee Hur, Propnex from your Mahjong kaki, mafia etc?
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aragosta
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13-Apr-2026 10:51
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Could be earth shattering movements coming ...... according to my mahjong kaki, over four is potentially possible by latest august ( I also don' t know why he mentioned August) ..... anyway, if the road side half past six peddler don' t disturb me and try to be kay kiang, I may try to finding out more and talk a little..... |
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aragosta
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20-Sep-2025 20:33
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You can say this is from the horses' mouth......... after I told my very good friend and mahjong kaki Ah Peck about the doubts and dispute of HLA' s ownership of CYI, he directed his chief bodyguard to provide me a detailed essay of the actual history of BOTH companies and the current status of ownership as of date........ with that, he said with much exasperation and annoyance, that he doesn' t want to hear anything of such ridiculous fake claims.........especially the endorsement of such fake info by any roadside tone deaf singer........ ======= Hong Leong Asia Ltd (HLA), Singapore-based multinational conglomerate, is the original company that established China Yuchai International (CYI) and listed it on the New York Stock Exchange ( NYSE).  Timeline of the events:
But how could CYI be a subsidiary of HLA given HLA' s stated ownership of only 48.7%?  The common understanding is that a parent company needs more than 50% ownership to have control over a subsidiary.  Well, the answer lies is this concept of control, which determines subsidiary status and it goes beyond simple share ownership.  You see, while HLA owns less than 50% of CYI' s ordinary shares, it appears they exert control through a special share structure. This special share grants HLA the right to elect a majority of CYI' s directors, giving it the ability to control the board and, by extension, the company' s direction.  As further support of what has been stated here, here is what CYI published in its Web Page  https://www.cyilimited.com/about-us/ About China Yuchai International Limited: ENGINEERING THE FUTURE China Yuchai International Limited (CYI) is a Bermuda investment holding company established on April 29, 1993, and is listed on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE: CYD).  Headquartered in Singapore, CYI, through six wholly-owned subsidiaries, owns a controlling 76.4% equity interest in its principal operating subsidiary, Guangxi Yuchai Machinery Company Limited (GYMCL), a leading powertrain solutions manufacturer in the People' s Republic of China. OUR PARENT COMPANY Hong Leong Asia Ltd (HLA), the controlling shareholder of CYI, is a diversified Asian multinational with core businesses in building materials and powertrain solutions. Incorporated in Singapore since 1963 and listed on the mainboard of Singapore Exchange Securities Trading Limited in 1998, HLA' s portfolio has an operating network spanning Singapore, Malaysia and the PRC. Through industry-leading businesses &ndash GYMCL, Island Concrete (Private) Limited, R3 Precast of HL Building Materials Pte. Ltd. and Tasek Corporation Berhad, HLA seeks to develop and deliver innovative and sustainable solutions for cities of the future. About Hong Leong Asia https://www.hlasia.com.sg/history-milestone/ |
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08-Sep-2025 16:49
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Hahah.... hilarious.... when a person ownself expose ownself and   ownself admits what he been accused of,  no matter how he tried to cover up with his half past charts, cartoons predictions also no use......  people already can see him as a naked shortist..... people can see through all kinds of cover ups thereafter ..... This roadside trader, sold HLA at around $2.05, tried so hard, not once but three times to talk the price down to $1.95. so that he can buy back, and recycle his cha cha cha trading again........ but the price never came down..... to $1.95 even guessing, hoping also he' s proven useless..... so now he has to buy back at $2.35 (quickly deleted after  posting or boasting).... Haha, typical comical punter who sold low, buy back high.....  . The Hokkien called these people LPPL .... But the most comical was, prior to that, after seeing the stock kept on rising for days, he joined the bullish group by  predicting  the price will reach as high as $2.80 wor,  even expecting his prediction to hit the same as OCBC Research......  But you know what happen? Instead of reaching $2.80, THE VERY NEXT DAY, HLA price lau sai for days,  which never happen for such a long time already...... really laugh die me! But the best part is this... I was alerted by a personal message to be careful with my words and posts, as half past six  roadside peddler is threatening to report me to " drink kopi" for making false claims..... when I checked again what it was,  I laughed until, my wife has to call the ambulance..... He was saying I flsrly claimed that my good friend Ah Peck and his daughter and management bought into HLA shares  (see post below)  and threatened that because he can' t find it inSGX announcement, then it is a case I must Lim Kopi .... hahaha....  I told you, this half past six guy, really shoots in the dark with his eyes CLOSED....... Hello, I made the post (which I carried over from the old thread) on  7 March 2025..... all he needs to do is to check SGX,  a few days  or a week before this date for the announcement la!   Please don' t look at or in the drains at the roadside.....  you only find smelly stuff there la.... Not tired, standing at the roadside selling koyok all day long meh? Si peh ho chio......... This guy' s credibility is gone..... I hope nobody will bother with him.... with his views and predictions... Let me bring you the tokkong black market news very very soon......., November should be the month.....
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aragosta
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28-Aug-2025 15:03
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I have so much to write about other gangsters stocks like Keppel, UOL, SingLand, SEATRIUM, YZJ.... but spent so much time posting on this.... why? because there' s so much signs (currently pointing to a potential no horse mini iFAST run).... well believe or not believe we are not bothered ... dyodddd as always. same here, so much to talk, but I will continue with this potential subsiadry listing thingy.... I know some of u guys are damned lazy, so I cut and past from various media views and put the interesting ones together as one here.... please make an effort to read them if u are interested to re enter (I know many if you  kenna  conned  by that half past six road side trader and sold too early).... read them, otherwise one day you may wake up and start asking why why why is HLA trading at 3x, 4x its book values.... ======== China Yuchai International (NYSE: CYD)  announced that one of its indirect subsidiaries is exploring a potential listing on a foreign stock exchange. The company has initiated preparatory work, including due diligence and potential corporate reorganization for the listing process. The company did not specify which subsidiary is being considered for listing or which foreign exchange is targeted for the potential listing. Which China Yuchai subsidiary is planning to list on foreign exchange? The specific subsidiary was not disclosed in the announcement.  The company referred to it as the ' Potential Listing Subsidiary' . What is the timeline for China Yuchai' s subsidiary listing? No specific timeline was provided.  The listing is in preliminary stages and depends on due diligence, regulatory approvals, and market conditions. On which foreign stock exchange will China Yuchai' s subsidiary be listed? The specific foreign stock exchange for the potential listing was not disclosed in the announcement. What approvals does China Yuchai need for the subsidiary listing? The listing requires regulatory authority approvals and depends on due diligence results, corporate reorganization, and market conditions. Will China Yuchai' s subsidiary listing include a U.S. public offering? The company stated it does not intend to register any part of the proposed offering in the United States. Potential Benefits for Hong Leong Asia If China Yuchai successfully lists its subsidiary on a foreign stock market, Hong Leong Asia could benefit from  enhanced capital access  for the subsidiary, allowing it to expand operations and improve market positioning, as well as potentially  unlocking value  through increased visibility and investor interest in the specific subsidiary. This move might also enable China Yuchai to  raise capital more efficiently, potentially leading to increased dividends for Hong Leong Asia, or allow it to  reduce its direct financial exposure  to the subsidiary.  There is also the opportunity for separate market valuation of subsidiary business. Why the hype of this ' Potential Listing Subsidiary' putting China Yuchai (and potentially HLA) in the World Spotlight China Yuchai International, through its subsidiary Guangxi Yuchai Machinery Company Limited, is a leading powertrain solution provider in China. The company specializes in designing, manufacturing, and selling a wide range of engines. With a strong market presence and a comprehensive portfolio that includes diesel, natural gas, and new energy products, Yuchai has established a significant market share in China and expanded its operations internationally. The " hype" around China Yuchai' s potential subsidiary listing stems from its strategic potential to  unlock significant shareholder value, provide a  separate market valuation  for the subsidiary' s business, and secure capital for future expansion in a  Super High-Growth  sector. This move would likely  increase the visibility  of both China Yuchai and its parent company, Hong Leong Asia,   on the world stage, putting them in the spotlight by highlighting their innovative high value powertrain solutions and expanding global market reach.  China Yuchai currently in the news  In other recent news, China Yuchai International Limited reported a 52.2% increase in first-half profit,  significantly outperforming China' s commercial vehicle market.  This notable profit growth is attributed to strong engine sales.  Additionally, China Yuchai International announced the launch of the new mtu Series 2000 high horsepower engines by its joint venture, MTU Yuchai Power Co. and has successfully delivered its first batch of these mtu Series 2000 engines to customers. This development marks an expansion of their product line, with the new engines being suitable for both primary and backup power generation applications. The launch is expected to drive growth by enhancing the company' s market position and expanding its customer base, particularly in the high-end power generation market. Furthermore, China Yuchai has commenced the shipment of high-end cylinder head castings to a German customer. This shipment is part of a larger order for 30,000 castings, facilitated by the company' s subsidiary, Guangxi Yuchai Foundry Co., Ltd.  These developments highlight the company' s ongoing efforts to enhance its product offerings and expand its market reach. ========= all these come from the black market' s black book, not AI power generated..... as usual the analysts are very behind the gangsters    but I would expect them to come out with glowing reports very very soon highlighting this development and rerating HLA again......  |
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aragosta
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28-Aug-2025 01:44
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As I was saying since beginning of the year there were numerous market rumors of a pending development in Yuchai, speculating of a divestment, spin off listing, M& A etc.......and I have alerted all over in the other thread, including one as below...... Now, of course, we know it will be listing of a subsidiary of China Yuchai, as it' s announced on SGX...... and all other new media....  https://www.ainvest.com/news/china-yuchai-considers-foreign-listing-subsidiary-2508-96/......... what we don' t know EXACTLY for sure is, is it will be Guangxi Yuchai Machinery Company Limited or Guangxi Yuchai Marine and Genset Power, or Guangxi Yuchai Deyou Engine Systems Co (or a combination of the three), or even MTU Yuchai Power Company Limited, or if I heard correctly, a completely new subsidiary hived from a critical product sector of one of the above subsidiaries, the products of which must be of great significance, value and potential ........ but I think all this is not important.........HLA shareholders would want to know later, how big the benefits are going to be, and will there be some tangible rewards of some sort........ but I think the real rub-off effect be the phenomenal upgrade of the value of stock price....... Meanwhile, if you interested in Hong Leong Asia organisation structure and related entities:
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27-Aug-2025 22:37
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I understand that the MTU series 2000 and series 4000 power generators are scalable to meet the demands of data centres and wafer fab infrastructures. It  can cost a few million dollars each and a large data centre may use 10 or more of such generators that can run independently or compliment the power grid.  The JS-SEZ may face power shortages in the next few years as it may takes time for them to build new power stations.  MTU series 2000 and 4000 power generators are ready for these data centers and wafer fab plants in JS-SEZ. Going forward Yuchai sales may grow at a compond annual growth rate of 20% to 30%. Thats the power of AI. |
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27-Aug-2025 16:31
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They are going to list  Guangxi Yuchai Marine and Genset Power Co., Ltd.  I am told at a 15x multiple, this business is worth more than the current market cap of CYD. sounds too good to be true. Still looking into it... |
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aragosta
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27-Aug-2025 13:37
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This sort of mega development isn' t decided in one day, or one week... it will take many meetings, projections, forward planning, risks and benefits ... covering many months..... UMS decision to list in Bursa Malaysia   took more than a year....../ As early as this year, the black market people kept telling to watch out for Yuchai, that something is brewing, only thing is we mortals don' t know exactly what...... but we can roughly guess, becoz as I wrote all over the other thread , do not underestimate the proliferation of data centres and the power of AI.... this will the hydrogen bomb of stock market when it truly reach its peak...... Yuchai, and HLA (read their statements in their portfolio and press conferebces) has been been emphasising on the product development and research...... and talking about new products, new usage, new developments .......lastly, when they come out with such a statement, u can bet it is a go ahead, the business or products that will be listed must be of phenomenal significance and potential ....... that is   why the market is so alert and smart , that' s is why the stock is on a MOMENTUM upswing...  
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27-Aug-2025 13:09
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https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/E5489D2MXBCNJ53S/856915_New%20mtu%20Series%202000%20High%20Horsepower%20Engines%20Produced%20by%20MTU%20Yuchai%20Power%20Launched.pdf for full doucment, please refer to sgx website.   Singapore, Singapore &ndash August 25, 2025 &ndash China Yuchai International Limited (NYSE: CYD) (&ldquo China Yuchai&rdquo or the &ldquo Company&rdquo ), one of the largest powertrain solution manufacturers through its main operating subsidiary in China, Guangxi Yuchai Machinery Company Limited (" Yuchai" ), announced that MTU Yuchai Power Co., Ltd. (&ldquo MYP&rdquo ) successfully launched the first batch of the mtu Series 2000 engine. This first batch is being delivered to customers, marking the further expansion of MYP&rsquo s product line. MYP is a 50/50 joint venture between Yuchai&rsquo s Marine and Genset Power subsidiary and Rolls-Royce&rsquo s Power Systems division. The current mtu Series 4000 engines have been highly recognized by customers in the high-end power generation market. Its production has increased in quantity every year, with cumulative production since its inception exceeding 3,000 units. With the commencement of the Phase II development last year, MYP has produced and will produce the new mtu Series 2000 engines at its Suzhou plant, and is expanding production and sales of the mtu Series 4000 S83 oil and gas engines at its Yulin plant. Both the new mtu Series 2000 engines and the mtu Series 4000 S83 engines rolled off the production line this year, enriching MYP' s product portfolio and expanding its application areas. The new mtu Series 2000 engine produced by MYP is suitable both as a primary and a backup solution for power generation applications. It features high-power performance, excellent fuel efficiency, and outstanding stability. Its launch and market entry injects new momentum into the rapid development of MYP. Mr. Weng Ming Hoh, President of China Yuchai, commented, &ldquo High-horsepower engine sales have been a key growth driver. With the inclusion of these new engines, we are better positioned to further expand our customer base and sustain long-term sales growth. I did a search with copilot. below some extract Rolls-Royce Power Systems is the industrial engine and energy solutions division of Rolls-Royce Holdings plc&mdash not to be confused with the luxury car brand. It&rsquo s a powerhouse in its own right, headquartered in Friedrichshafen, Germany, and operates under the mtu brand, which you&rsquo ll recognize from gensets, marine propulsion, and high-horsepower industrial engines.   The intellectual property (IP) for the mtu Series 2000 and Series 4000 engines is owned by Rolls-Royce Power Systems, a division of Rolls-Royce Holdings plc. These engines were originally developed by MTU Friedrichshafen, which became part of Rolls-Royce Power Systems. The mtu brand and its engine technologies&mdash including common-rail injection systems and hybrid-ready configurations&mdash are proprietary to Rolls-Royce. Even though MTU Yuchai Power (MYP) manufactures these engines in China through a 50/50 joint venture with Yuchai, the underlying design, patents, and engineering IP remain with Rolls-Royce. |
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27-Aug-2025 12:43
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Never knew the elephant skin is so thick..... anyway, if the roadside peddler doesn' t sell his koyok here, I' ll leave him alone, his credibility is gone anyway......  as I was saying, if a stock closed up after XD, it will be trying to tell u something........ the stock is on an momentum upswing anyway......  incidentally, I may have some exciting news to share with you!  Let me move in all my furniture and fittings here first........ be patient, good things shouldn' t be rushed ...... Meanwhile Do keep,an eye on Keppel,UOL, SLG......
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27-Aug-2025 12:38
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Stand alone diesel genset company listed in the US can trade at pe of 10-15 no problem?
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27-Aug-2025 09:50
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26-Aug-2025 16:23
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26-Aug-2025 12:30
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I have written extensively here and other tthreads on the proliferation of data centres and the future growth and importance of of AI. In both Malaysia and Indonesia alone, the data centres industry is 100 times bigger than Singapore...... be patient, more tokkong updates coming up........
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Hong Leong Asia&rsquo s China Yuchai announces potential listing of subsidiary
China Yuchai, the NYSE-listed subsidiary of Mainboard-listed Hong Leong Asia, announced that one of its indirect subsidiaries is considering a potential listing on a foreign stock exchange.
 
The subsidiary has begun preparatory work for the listing, which is in its preliminary stages. The potential listing will depend on the results of the due diligence conducted and other work including any corporate reorganisation, requisite approvals from the relevant regulatory authorities being obtained as well as the then-prevailing market conditions.
 
China Yuchai adds that there is no certainty or assurance that the Potential Listing will materialise in due course or at all.
 
For the 1HFY2025 ended June 30, China Yuchai&rsquo s revenue grew by 30.8% y-o-y due to the higher number of powertrain units sold.
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