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AwakenTide
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20-Mar-2014 19:49
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I won't sell Olam too | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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20-Mar-2014 18:42
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Just ignore him. This interfact really childish. No end to his antics.
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20-Mar-2014 18:27
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Another Cock that shit from the mouth.. FO la
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roostertan
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20-Mar-2014 11:14
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Offer at 2.23 is obviously an under-cut price.  If re-adjust offer price of  2.80 should be reasonable, not to say  at 3.20.  Wud not want to accept this offer, which I feel is too  low.  Commodities is on an uptrend and the next 3 mths results of Olam should have attractive results. 
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luminol
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20-Mar-2014 09:37
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my darling... no $3.2 no sell. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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20-Mar-2014 09:06
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  Nomura says Olam worth more than Temasek's S$2.23 per share offer     By    POSTED:  19 Mar 2014 11:51 URL: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/nomura-advises-olam/1040782.html Japanese financial services group Nomura on Wednesday advised Olam International shareholders to hold onto their shares, saying it believed the commodities firm was worth more than the S$2.23 a share offered by Temasek unit Breedens. SINGAPORE: Japanese financial services group Nomura on Wednesday advised Olam International shareholders to hold onto their shares, saying it believed the commodities firm was worth more than the S$2.23 a share offered by Temasek unit Breedens. Singapore-listed Olam is one of the world's biggest traders of coffee, rice and cashew nuts. The company is worth around S$5.4 billion based on Temasek's offer price. " From a long-term perspective, we still see significant value in Olam, as various gestating assets start contributing over the next few years," Nomura analysts Tanuj Shori and Bineet Banka wrote in a note. Nomura estimates that Olam's earnings could grow by more than 20 per cent per annum in the next three years. It added that Temasek's emergence as Olam's majority shareholder was positive for shareholders, as this would help reduce concerns over the firm's access to funds which is key in global supply chain businesses. Temasek's offer price for Olam -- which works out to about 13.3 times the estimated earnings for 2014 -- was not expensive as it was in line with recent transactions in the agriculture business, the Japanese firm added. |
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Leongsan
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19-Mar-2014 09:01
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Olam AR2013 note 23 on borrowings what 1.2bil debt maturing you are referring to. All borrowings current are normal bank day to day business. There will be 1bill plus debt if they are going ahead with the gabonbon fertilizer under the existing structure of 60+%  
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AddLuck
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18-Mar-2014 10:59
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Quite agree with Rooster......when debt maturity is due, Mud man will come rock the boat again (short sell).......Temasek preempting that.
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roostertan
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18-Mar-2014 10:31
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You might not be exactly right.  Sometimes, things are view at a different perspectives.  What Temasek may be doing, is to save face when dealing with an external  MW.  As always, we want to be No. 1 in ranking in many areas.  Face is sometimes value more than monetary gains indirectly. So, in taking such an action is just merely peanuts. 
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StayingFoolish85
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18-Mar-2014 10:23
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Olam current price around 2.23, but it is one of the few whose concensus target price is below the current price!!!      |
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Leongsan
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18-Mar-2014 10:13
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At this morning coffee session with my Hainanese retirees, I asked for guidiance on the Temasek offer. My average cost including dividends is below S$1.50. I concur with them that there are great value and potential in Olam. Africa is a great story, and Olam has the history and experience. To stay betting safe, I am advised to accept the offer. Buy the warrant at present price US$0.505. I therefore take all my money back, and ride with Temasek.   |
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18-Mar-2014 01:52
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Lending pool still zero. The show haven't end. At 2.23, see how long can shortist tong. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Leongsan
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17-Mar-2014 20:14
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I do not consider Muddy Waters a factor. They came sold short made a lot of noise to drive the market done, made their killing and left long time ago. Temasek is not a charity and will not do anything if they have nothing to gain. They will not lose big money just to carry the singapore flag. Temasek is also taking over the convertible loan with high conversion of S$2.98.They also want the warrants but are not paying any premium for the remaining time 3years 9months. They also extracted first right of refusal from the founding shareholders. Looks like they want to control Olam in the long term and want it to grow faster with their financial power on loans and borrowings. |
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roostertan
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17-Mar-2014 19:07
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Temasek have all the resources to buy whole of Olam.  They are willing to pay for everything ranging from warrants, bonds, shares and whatsoever.  Bet me.  Buying over Olam is chicken feed to them.  What their intention is to prove MW wrong in their attack against Olam and not to behave like a big bully on our little red dot.  Carson Block is just simply playing with fire. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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AddLuck
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17-Mar-2014 17:51
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Try this as logic (my feel only): 1)with $1.2 bil debt maturing soon...don't want muddy MW to rock the house again...they may borrow share to short sell Olam. 2) cut- off the supply of share borrowing by owning all shares...... no share to borrow means no short selling....... in few words, it means rescuing Olam.....Temasek will be responsible for debt issue when maturity date arrive. Believed Temasek allow listing to continue.
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Leongsan
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17-Mar-2014 17:34
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What to do now? Why Temasek want to buy more shares? They must know something more than us. Why is CEO Sunny not selling? Why is Chanrai selling 5% to Temasek With Temasek why should we worry about more debt. Please examine logically. Help please. |
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17-Mar-2014 11:29
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SGX reiterates regulatory stance in response to Olam
Trading was within price ranges set by analysts, it says
The Singapore Exchange (SGX) said that it takes a serious view of all market misconduct in breach of the Securities and Futures Act, including potential insider trading and manipulation activities.
The regulator was responding yesterday to news reports highlighting Olam's escalating share price ahead of Temasek Holdings' offer for the company last Friday. In the six weeks since Feb 3, Olam's counter had jumped 34.8 per cent, leading market watchers to ask if some had gotten wind of the deal. Others questioned why Olam did not request for a trading halt earlier, and was not queried by SGX. " We will spare no effort in conducting investigations on possible transgressions and will cooperate with regulatory agencies to enforce the law against offenders," SGX said in its statement. Under new rules which came into effect on March 3, listed companies are required to inform the bourse if their board is aware of discussions of a potential proposal, or in talks on an agreement which may lead to a takeover of the company. SGX did not indicate whether it had been notified by Olam but said: " We do not discuss our dealings with regards to individual companies, including notifications as required under the listing rules. If there are possible breaches of rules or requirements, we will investigate and take appropriate action." Olam declined to comment. Said a spokesman: " The offer made by Breedens Investments is subject to the Takeover Code, and we have been advised that we should not make any comment on the offer except by way of a board-approved announcement." Temasek unit Breedens Investments Pte Ltd is leading a consortium to put up $2.53 billion to buy the rest of Olam that the group does not own. As at last Friday, the group owned a combined stake of 52.5 per cent. Asked if it had notified SGX of the intended offer, Temasek declined comment and said: " All our discussions with the regulators are on a strictly confidential basis." Besides requiring companies to keep material information confidential, the new rules which kicked in this month also require them to keep a list of names of persons privy to the transaction, requestable by SGX as and when necessary. In its response, SGX also sought to put Olam's share price jump into context. Olam's 34.8 per cent price jump in the six weeks leading up to the takeover announcement had surpassed those of its peers, Wilmar International which rose 11.2 per cent, and Noble Group which rose 12.6 per cent over the same period. SGX said that trading in these three stocks were within the price ranges set out in analysts' research reports, suggesting that they were trading within the general market view, with Olam shares reflecting a more positive market view. It noted that of the 13 analysts who issued reports on Olam in February, seven had raised their target price by an average of 10.4 per cent, with the highest increase being 21.4 per cent. Target prices for the stock ranged from $1.50 to $2. Olam ended Friday at $2.23, which was the offer price. In Wilmar's case, eight analysts raised their target price by an average of 2.6 per cent, with the highest increase being 4.8 per cent. For Noble, one analyst raised its target price in February. " (Hence,) such comparisons should be conducted with care as the financials and outlook of individual companies may differ even if they are within the same industry," SGX noted. Over the weekend, Carson Block, founder of US shortselling firm Muddy Waters which in November 2012 betted against Olam and said that the commodities trader faced insolvency risks, observed that the timing of Temasek's offer for Olam was " interesting" . In an e-mail to media, Mr Block said: " The Singapore sovereign wealth fund's timing is interesting given that Olam has $1.2 billion of debt maturing this year and is still burning cash, and that the stock has inexplicably outperformed in the past month." |
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16-Mar-2014 22:54
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Roostertan hi thks for yr kind response!
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16-Mar-2014 16:57
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Not talking to you.Yr IQ is low.
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roostertan
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16-Mar-2014 11:13
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If you accept the offer by signing return the provided forms, you will not be charge commission.  I forsee the offer price of 2.23 should EITHER stay around this level during offer period or go upwards.  The majority of shareholders are not allowed to sell during the offer period AND for 6 mths after lapse of offer period.  So, the price of Olam should  stay firm, in my views.  The consortium of Olam majority stake-holders will possibly not allow the price to fall below 2.23, in  one way or another, to teach MW a good lesson.  MW should be in deep shi*t by now.  MW should know one thing, and that is, don't  ever  meddle with a big elephant. 
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