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Lucky03 Elite	08-Nov-2014 16:05        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Assuming if Bloomberg report is true that NOL had sent sale document to prospective buyers to submit first round of bids by end Nov which is 3 weeks from now, will NOL be able to complete the sales quick enough by end Dec to lock in the huge profit against the book value of APL Logistic which is only US$124m and to avoid reporting 4th year of loss ?
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Lucky03 Elite	08-Nov-2014 12:50        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	NOL Mgmt needs to display some interest in its share price by defending it with some concrete action and updates.
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Lucky03 Elite	08-Nov-2014 12:46        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is not up to the NOL Mgmt to decide to accept or reject TH's buyout offer. It's the shareholders like most of us here. Not only TH, but Hapag is another possible contender. It has just cleared all regularly hurdles for its merger with CSAV. It may turn its attention to NOL esp when NOL price of 0.765 is so much lower than its NAV of 0.92 and near 1.00 when it openly expressed its interest to merge with NOL to increase its market share for Asia-US routes. Problem is that these potential may not help for the short term price pressure from traders who are pressing down NOL prices. What may help is NOL clarification and reassurance that the problem of OW Bunker will not have significant financial impact to NOL and NOL has secured deliveries of bunker fuel to avoid any disruption. NOL updates and plan for the sale of APL Logistic will be very helpful. The carrot of potential windfall of US$1b will change the whole game plan. However, NOL is known to be very news averse as we can hardly read news about them being reported by any international magazines and their disclosure to SGX is far and few. Hope they can wake up to realise transparency and timely disclosure is essential for good investor relations and will also support share price, if they have an interest in it ! THE Hapag-Lloyd merger with Chile's Compania Sud Americana de Vapores (CSAV) has cleared regulatory hurdles with Brazilian regulator Conselho Administrative de Defensa Economica (CADE), the German carrier announced. Hapag-Lloyd and CSAV's deal in April was still subject to the approval of regulatory authorities including the US Department of Justice, the European Commission and Chile's maritime authorities. All of these issues have been resolved. The transaction will make Hapag-Lloyd the fourth largest container shipping company in the world, with some 200 vessels, an annual transport volume of 7.5 million TEU and a combined turnover of EUR9 billion (US$11.3 billion). MetalTrader3      ( Date: 08-Nov-2014 12:14) Posted: I think you can call TH & ask what you stated. All traders will probably laugh at you. hem2998      ( Date: 08-Nov-2014 11:54) Posted: i thot TH IS NOL :P
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	08-Nov-2014 12:14        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think you can call TH & ask what you stated. All traders will probably laugh at you. hem2998      ( Date: 08-Nov-2014 11:54) Posted: i thot TH IS NOL :P MetalTrader3      ( Date: 08-Nov-2014 11:15) Posted: Even if Tamasek want buy, I doubt NOL will sell to him. NOL previously rejected Tamasek $2 offer. Because the management think it can fetch more. Hope NOL success in issuing APL Logistics (my suggestion: 40% as ipo) instead of selling fully. APL Shipping also need to target sell/lease more ships.
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	08-Nov-2014 11:57        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Timeline (Suggestion): - Finalize buyer & % of selling APL Logistics through IPO share by November. - Issuance of IPO share by December Reason: Expediting will do NOL benefits, while delaying will do NOL harm as reflected in share price. NOL Management decision is crucial. Share price weight heavily on NOL ability/ inability to action.
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hem2998 Veteran	08-Nov-2014 11:54        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i thot TH IS NOL :P MetalTrader3      ( Date: 08-Nov-2014 11:15) Posted: Even if Tamasek want buy, I doubt NOL will sell to him. NOL previously rejected Tamasek $2 offer. Because the management think it can fetch more. Hope NOL success in issuing APL Logistics (my suggestion: 40% as ipo) instead of selling fully. APL Shipping also need to target sell/lease more ships.
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	08-Nov-2014 11:22        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Suggestion: Unlocking value of APL Logistics through issuance of IPO share for every single NOL stock is a must. Advantage: Can retain majority business & flexibility to management. This also increases the combined value. (NOL + APL Logistics) Hope to see APL Logistics issued at $0.80 per share. Bringing combined value to at least $1.50 and above.
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	08-Nov-2014 11:15        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Even if Tamasek want buy, I doubt NOL will sell to him. NOL previously rejected Tamasek $2 offer. Because the management think it can fetch more. Hope NOL success in issuing APL Logistics (my suggestion: 40% as ipo) instead of selling fully. APL Shipping also need to target sell/lease more ships.
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earlybird14 Supreme	08-Nov-2014 08:02        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If oil price stay below 80, the giant container plus low stream will not be golden rules anymore. The shipping line can offer high stream, short voyage plus tight time slot to their clients to challenge the giant container which are low stream long voyage plus loose time slot. the main shipping cost are main power, fuel oil cost and chartered cost. Some giant containers are order by shipowner and chartered to shipping line at high chartered rate. Those medium size spot rate is relatively low. So the shipping market is going to be messed out by this round of fuel oil price. This will offer some opportunity to small shipping line a chance to compete with big shipping line. However, nol poor management may not be able to catch the change again.
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rlong8288 Master	07-Nov-2014 22:06        rlong8288 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	NAV is at 0.92 Spore cents.....
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Heero78 Veteran	07-Nov-2014 21:36        Heero78 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is the drop due to recent possible bankruptcy of OW bunker?
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alan5793 Veteran	07-Nov-2014 20:46        alan5793 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, Agree....TP should be ard ~ 50cts........BBs is dumping for the past few days...All got burnt..
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earlybird14 Supreme	07-Nov-2014 20:44        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bunker price drop 30% may be lower, europe recovery, us congested. Oil price may be stay below 80 for long with additional shale oil,deep water oil. earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 20:40) Posted: Same as u. Bought some at 77 as well. 70 to 80, good price range. Approach to 70 shall alarm temasek holding to step in counter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 18:18) Posted: I picked up some at 0.77 today. I will pick up more modestly and gradually along the way down. See you at 0.70 if it gets there
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earlybird14 Supreme	07-Nov-2014 20:40        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Same as u. Bought some at 77 as well. 70 to 80, good price range. Approach to 70 shall alarm temasek holding to step in counter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 18:18) Posted: I picked up some at 0.77 today. I will pick up more modestly and gradually along the way down. See you at 0.70 if it gets there. earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 09:39) Posted: Not yet. approaching to 70cents, then will go in, still got few bad news is going to come to this industry, the only positive for NOL is APL logistic sales to unload cash.
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foucs69 Veteran	07-Nov-2014 20:03        foucs69 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	haha dun buy too much n keep too long....one day this big ah Gong toh....this will toh too................... will invest another box company if they able to ipo, bcos of NOL they cant listing.....damn
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counter Veteran	07-Nov-2014 18:18        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I picked up some at 0.77 today. I will pick up more modestly and gradually along the way down. See you at 0.70 if it gets there. earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 09:39) Posted: Not yet. approaching to 70cents, then will go in, still got few bad news is going to come to this industry, the only positive for NOL is APL logistic sales to unload cash. counter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 09:28) Posted: I am going in?
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halleluyah Supreme	07-Nov-2014 18:03        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I tell u NOL wun collapse cos gt big ah kong support n quite sure ah kong dun wt it to happen also. Jeep small tdy at 0.765, still waiting to add.
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Trespasserx Senior	07-Nov-2014 17:51        Trespasserx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is just an absolute mockery of some posters here.. When they are not vested, they will be talking down this counter like it is going down and will be bankrupt anytime, once they are vested they can easily do a 360 and now suggesting nol is going to stock of the year.. Haha I guess I not need to say who are those, ppl herebcan easily identify them ha
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danger Supreme	07-Nov-2014 16:51        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are right .... NOL hit $6 twice in 2007 ...........   CHEAP PRICE FOR INVESTORS TO SCOOP UP NOW halleluyah      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 12:18) Posted: The peak fr shipping was in 2008.  NOL hit $6.xx COSCO hit $8.xx danger      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 12:05) Posted: ruan ruan lai you know he talk cock only .. if he even bought at 10 years ago , the lowest price was about $1.70 Then in 2007 rally , NOL went up $4.20 If he had kept for 10 years , you don' t want to sell at $4.20 in 2007  but want to sell at $1.43 in 2011 ?? crap!   Now cheap time is the time to buy not sell
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hem2998 Veteran	07-Nov-2014 15:46        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	interesteng observation. TH is driving the px down to take over cheap? danger      ( Date: 07-Nov-2014 11:35) Posted: It is controlled manipulation.. sell volume and buy volume the same
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