| Latest Forum Topics / Seatrium Last:0.091 -- |
|
|
SembCorp Marine- The new Frontier.
|
|||||
|
chart_expert123
Master |
23-Oct-2021 08:59
Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!" |
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Bear in mind, when company or personal will be sued for bankruptcy and move into winding up?
When no cash to pay interest, installment, payment and etc and gonna sued for bankruptcy filing. At the moment bankruptcy protection filing is when listed company gone case. So look at revenue and profit, share price will only grow according to these 2 grow only as simple as that.
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 08:49
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
revenue, expenditure, goodwill, intangible assets, profits are more important to us than to quote what one analyst writes
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
|
|||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 08:47
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Yes
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 08:45
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Good point Best is to do own analysis and not believe such people
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
chart_expert123
Master |
23-Oct-2021 08:44
Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!" |
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
All these NAV all bloated. Especially all these listed companies listed many years where their assets were valued at best year and never revalue at worst year now. When come to winding up assets for paying debts, most of the time cannot even pay bond holders, shareholders or equity holders are last to pay always get zero.
For example, We all know shipyards in singapore are in lease hold. Sembmar shipyard in sembawang going to expire and gov have no intention to extend. The assets never reflect. What worst is we always can see intangle assets are recorded which cannot sell at all, once company cease business, intangible assets are zero value. It is most stupid way to value a company based on NAV, especially you look at best performance companies like amazon, tesla, Facebook and etc, their NAV all started at very low or even negative. We are equity holders or shareholders shall only look at revenue and profit growth. Debt, assets and equity value are monitored by bond holders or debt holders to worry how much will be returned to their borrowing money if company winding up.
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
|
|||||
|
vicloo
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 08:33
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
How she get the Projected NAV 12c....only accountant know how much is actual NAV... SEE hyflux... Suddenly busted... Before Bond default that NAV also very high.
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 07:17
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Well said, uiop1223.  Many analysts are paid to write and they write with vested interests. It is wise not to believe analysts and forumners.    Educate ourselves.  Learn financial analysis, investment analysis.  Know the markets and know the industry. Do own analysis and invest based on own calculations.  Dont invest our monies based on what others say.
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
uiop1223
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 07:02
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Nonsense la. Analysts on yzj keep saying the price shld be around $2. Whats the price of yzj? They can say all they want since they are paid to give report.
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
|
|||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 06:59
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
That is one possibilty.  But hopefully KC demands cash rather than SMM shares
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 06:57
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
RI 2021 has given SMM some room to manoeuvre until Mar 2022.  But a company making losses cant hide its dire condition forever. 
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
uiop1223
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 06:55
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Issue more new shares to keppel sh lor. Another massive dilution coming
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 06:53
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
SMM gets a temporary reprieve.  The truth will be out in a few months time.   
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
|
|||||
|
ckmpd1
Supreme |
23-Oct-2021 06:50
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Your analysis is good.  There is no doubt SMM is losing big money.  If no big contracts coming in, how long can SMM survive on present $1B.  Things will be clearer when SMM announces its financial report in Feb 2022 
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
Chagatai
Veteran |
22-Oct-2021 21:26
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
whoa lao .. worstt .. my goodness please .. please la it is frustrating I understand it is but my goodness please no more okay no more Worstt okay | ||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
naoshingo
Elite |
22-Oct-2021 20:55
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Found it. Thanks.
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
7ocean
Master |
22-Oct-2021 20:39
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Junk counter.. 0.002
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
better
Elite |
22-Oct-2021 20:39
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
It is on the Company website or SGX announcement (Offeree Circular dated 20th Oct)   Despatch of Notice to Shareholders Regarding Electronic Dissemination of the Offeree Circular 
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
Starship
Supreme |
22-Oct-2021 20:37
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Maybe TM has no intention to take private in the first place so this IFA Report fits the narrative. 
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
naoshingo
Elite |
22-Oct-2021 20:36
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
Where is this extracted from?
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||
|
andysim83
Elite |
22-Oct-2021 20:36
|
||||
|
x 0
x 0 Alert Admin |
lol if merger with keppel..where got $500m to give them....now left 1 billions deduct off $650m for 2H left only 350m....go where dig 500m for keppel SH
|
||||
| Useful To Me Not Useful To Me | |||||

