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Luzern
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25-Sep-2021 15:03
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ASP.....120+.......70+.......40+/50+........20+.......... | ||||
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wavehunter
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25-Sep-2021 14:45
Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see." |
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Bro Midtermer, For you only. Take it as a guide. TA is no Bao Chiak one. Everyone who is savvy and mature enough knows that. But still, having a chart to serve as a guide is better than not having anything at all. You looking to buy or you looking to get out? If you are looking for an exit, all the best to you. And to others like you. . ![]()
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yumsang
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25-Sep-2021 13:58
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hope it can recover back to above 1.12 where it did the high platform diving  | ||||
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ksangks
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25-Sep-2021 12:50
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By end of sept 2021 , net cash should add another Rm400m minimum .
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beng1102
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25-Sep-2021 12:20
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Guys.  Go back to read the Balance Sheet and P& L and we would quickly realize RS is simply too cheap and a large part is liquid cash like cash, receivable and inventory.  Balance Sheet is very strong and profit and dividend are among the top in the market.  This is the kind of company for the owner to take private as it is way too cheap at current market price.  Borrow to sell for RS is a very bad idea as it pays high dividend and borrow rate is 8.5%.  Any borrowing to short willl not be sustainable for long term.  COVID-19 variants such Delta are here to stay and medical glove will be continue to be in high demand.  New suppliers from China are usually more nimble  they come and go depending on supply gap and the global market is big enough for all.  In fact  supply chain disruption in Malaysia is the reason driving more orders to China amid strong demand.
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ksangks
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25-Sep-2021 11:28
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Why out of no where , back to write stale lengthy monkey stories , the more he / she write , the more we do the opposite . He /She put in so much efforts to help retail investors ???
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msksmsks
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25-Sep-2021 11:19
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Morning folks, I also kapoh abit after reading the monkey biz theory. Isn' t it  suspicious for someone whom proclaimed no monetary gain nor vested interest yet painstakingly writting so much and talking down a stock.    As our saying goes " No free lunch" Regarding ABL saga with $billion$ vaporise in mkt value purely a monkey play with no real biz activity but passing scripts fm one to another and roll over.  Matter of time, it wl crack.  Pity those young dealer/remisers laden with $million$ losses due to greed and fast money but no sympathy fm me for  pple like S*h,  G*briel and K*n  which is  outright scandal. Rome isn' t built within a day and likewise for RS.  Success don come easy and i applaud RS mgmt for a job well done.  Pulling out a historical chart and making  extrapolation ain' t difficult but running a $billion$ ain' t easy.  Pls give due respect to RS mgmt  especially meeting the ever demanding expectation of the analysts which is no easy feat. Air travel wl likely be back to normal projected ard 2024.  Covid is here to stay and in forseeable future.  Despite 85% vaccination rate, our infected cases still on the rise .    I retire 6 years earllier before the age of 55 thru prudent investment.    I like RS biz model resiliency and price had dropped fm it' s peak to current pricing which i find the valuation is attractive to me.  Wl hold for medium term and expect FY21 result be sterling and earning wl be sustainable gg fwd . But dont trust what i wrote entirely as i' ve vested interest .    Numbers wont lie unlike human nature wl. Only time wl tell  Cheers (happy wkend)   |
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ksangks
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24-Sep-2021 23:42
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All the best !
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Sunbrighten
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24-Sep-2021 23:40
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many thanks bro, it' s really helpful..
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ksangks
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24-Sep-2021 23:06
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https://eservices.mas.gov.sg/sprs/Public/Publication/ViewAggregatedReports.aspx
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ksangks
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24-Sep-2021 22:38
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Div yield is more than 10 % . Total around 20% .
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beng1102
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24-Sep-2021 22:34
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Todays relative short vol is only 3.59%.  Now we have a situation that less shortist are sellling and more shortist need to buy back.    RIS is strengthening and looks to be make a U Turn.  Next few day we could expect more buying.  Remember borrowing rate is 8.5%, this alone could very costly to short and need to take profit by buying back.  The last day meassive short selling is big mistake made by the shortist.   09/24/21 3.59 7928700 284900
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beng1102
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24-Sep-2021 22:09
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Now u r talking about fundamental demand and supply.  At first u said only need to track the monkey movement.
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bxylqwan
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24-Sep-2021 16:13
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No need take the effort explain and type so much lah bro. Longtermer still believes that such counters are " undervalued" and " fundamentals will catch up eventually" . But the only thing that has been happening in the last one year is these counters getting dumped and dumped further. 
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wavehunter
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24-Sep-2021 16:03
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Bro Longtermer, If glove demand is persistently high and glove margin is also reasonably attractive, new entrants will flock into the business. And in time, prices will be driven down by oversupply and competition. Just like it happened to masks as well. For that matter, when there is oversupply of any product, gloves included, prices will eventually fall. So the days of supernormal profits for glove makers are over. That aside, for RS to bounce, nothing else new is needed. When she has fallen enough and shortists think it is meaty enough to take money off the table, she will bounce. Like she has been doing for the last 12 months. But for RS to rise and do an up, up and away, you need one of fhe following to happen: 1. A monkey (any monkey, not necessarily the original one) to come back to do another round of PUMP & DUMP.  In my view and I have stated my reasons in my recent postings here, I dont think the monkey is coming back. There are times when you can fool all the people only once. And so the PUMP & DUMP, you can do it only once. You remember the Asiasons, LionGold and Blumont scandal ? You tell me.... after running road with billions, can you conceive the monkeys there coming back to do another PUMP & DUMP all over again ? No way. You wont be able to fool people again the second time round. Instead, if the monkey do another PUMP & DUMP, those who are stuck will seize the second lease of life to dump on the monkey. Monkey no stupid. Otherwise he cant be a monkey ler. 2. If Tua Phows buy. Tua Phows means fund managers, institutions and high net worth retail investors. Without the support of Tua Phows, if a stock, any stock.... is bought only by retail investors, it wont move the needle much. Buying by retail players only is like one pail of water poured into an ocean. And you expect that to raise the sea level ?  When retail players buy, all that will happen is you see a 1-second blip on the screen. That' s all. If you need proof of what I just said, the proof is right here. In this thread. The last time I was here, there was a group of bulls who showed me the same type of hospitality that I am being shown now. This group of bulls were saying the same things - demand for gloves will remain high... high ASP... pandemic is still raging on and will get worse.... supernormal profits expected for 2020 and 2021.... order books filled until Q1 of 2022... etc etc etc and some said they will buy more (but whether they really bought will remain a mystery) while others called on everyone to ignore my views and to buy more. Let' s just assume that many bought. But all retail players. Not monkey. Not Tua Phows. Only retails. So what happened to the stock price between Nov 2020 and today, Sep 2021 ? Did the price do an up, up and away ? Or did it do a London Bridge is falling down ?  Going forward, I believe that no monkey will come back and neither will Tua Phows be interested in accumulating this stock. So what' s left is that the only people doing the buying are retail players. We have seen what 1 year of " only retail players are buying" has done to the stock price. So if this continues, and I think it will, ie. the only people buying are retail players, what will happen to the stock price 1 year from now ? Up, up and away ? In a year when there was supernormal profits, this stock did a London Bridge is falling down. What more when there is no more supernormal profits.  Now you know why people who are inside wants to get out and people who are outside dont want to go in. People who have money and looking for a good place to park wont be stopping by here. They will drive right past this vacant parking lot. That' s my take. And I bet you the bulls here wont take kindly to that.     
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brchkho1
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24-Sep-2021 15:54
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Agreed. It was a pump and dump case. In the initial stage of the pandemic, all the PPE manufactureres were caught with sudden surge of demands and supplies were short and drove up the prices just like the masks. As this PPEs don' t need highend technologies to produce, more and more manufacturers join in the game to take a bite of the cake other than the bigger ones beef up the capacity. Now the demands are met and the glove prices are stablized. The prices will drop if the gloves are over produced. Other than PPEs, the same is observed in the trending of Sheng Siong  
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brchkho1
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24-Sep-2021 15:38
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Shortists covering lah. No goody as the result just announced.
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easywin
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24-Sep-2021 14:51
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Very powerful. Maybe some goodies coming. | ||||
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Longtermer
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24-Sep-2021 14:50
Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor" |
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Thank bro for the reply.. Going fwd, how can the glove demand be lower when many glove companies are saying the CAGR will be 10 to 15%? The last i check is many countries including the one we live in are struggling to cope with the pandemic. USA and Europe too are seeing increasing cases.. Yes, ASP will drop but it will come to a level when margin are good enough for new players to continue the biz. Otherwise, they will close shop due to losses incurred. We are talking about gloves and not masks. So there is no Buy 1 get 1 free biz here. My take is Riverstone , UG and Top Glove are all over sold due to current sentiment and nothing else. Many contra players and margin holders force sell their shares i think.. Fundamentally, they are worth much more and soon we will see it moving back to its right valuation. Just my take.. no monkey talk .. cheers.  
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tanchingku
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24-Sep-2021 14:46
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Many things have the two sides of the story. Nonetheless, shortist have to buy back is the only way out of losses. So, buy and hold for 2 days, shortists for the last 3-4 sessions will have to buy back at higher price. 
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