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Oceanus major business model restructure
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SureStrike
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16-Aug-2021 20:40
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Powderful lah! Oceanus. 💪 😃 👍 🏻
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gregtan123
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16-Aug-2021 20:37
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Wow this is from their FB, Breaking News!!!!! Imagine even if Oceanus just deals with 5% of Global Seafood supplies. From FB Picture it is 155 Million Tonnes, imagine just 5%????? 18 cents share price?
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mondaybluesy
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16-Aug-2021 20:26
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Yes exactly.  Every merit can be rubbished away by forcing a comparison with a better result.  The sad thing is many new investors might get misled by these fear-mongering and miss out on making profit alongside the growth of the company. One good thing though is the many new investors joining in the Oceanus family.  Definitely makes the journey of earning money together more enjoyable!    I have invested since $0.006 and my money remains with Oceanus until the growth story changes.  Trust me, I hold a big bag.  This is the rare opportunity to 1) get in ahead of the institutional investors, 2) at the start of a clear, well-charted growth phase, and 3) with the key management having skin in the game by investing at a higher price (than currently). Let' s give time for CEO Peter Koh and his team to keep their promises to its shareholders.  There' s so much more in store for the long investor, as shared during the April AGM (see: https://www.investingnote.com/posts/2243655).  Let' s not get sidetracked by noise!
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SureStrike
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16-Aug-2021 20:03
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The top 5 largest importers of seafood are EU, US, China, Japan and Thailand. They are projected to account for about 50% of global imports by 2029. With Oceanus FoodTech Hub, we plan to bring them, the freshest seafood to their doorstep, everyday. #oceanusgroup #foodsafety #foodsecurity #sustainablefarming #oceanusfoodtechhub |
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gregtan123
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16-Aug-2021 18:58
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For me Monday Bro, the best thing is this. For the haters or those who shout down, no matter what Oceanus is DOWN. Exit Watchlist, they say Expected and Priced In. Plus they say Sell On News. Don' t Exit Watchlist, they say You See, Going Zero.  Say 2H 200 Million Revenue, with 30 Mil Profit they say Not Good Enough, Plus Sell on News. Say 2H 75 Million Revenue, with 7.5 Mil Profit, they say You See, Can' t Grow Fast Enough. Sell.  So in ALL cases, Oceanus is going down. Then my dears if u ALL so Confident, how about we BET? I raise the level to Yaccob Price, 1.7 cents, can??? Bet Amount: The haters decide. I dont want your money. I just want u Keyboard Warriors to get a LIFE. Put ur $$$ where ur mouth is. Or tell me a better SGX in 12 months return to Oceanus? Mind You we called it from 0.006 which is 6x, and that' s only 9 months. 
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dot123
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16-Aug-2021 18:50
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Tio lah, there will always be haters, we know our facts right? Ann lah 😂 😂
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mondaybluesy
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16-Aug-2021 18:42
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Thanks for this YoungT.  Much appreciated!
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weekndr
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16-Aug-2021 18:10
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Agreed w YoungT - all valid points.  Alafun appears to take a rather simplistic analysis and view of the results.
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YoungT
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16-Aug-2021 18:00
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Hi, I think Alafun has raised some points that the ordinary layman would pick out. I' d thought I' ll address by sharing some objective points on below following my brief analysis of the results.  1. LOWER PROFIT MARGIN This is not at all surprising or alarming to me. Oceanus distribution segment started ramping up exponentially in the second half last year. And as with all trading businesses, it is a high volume low margin % business. It is only logical rev goes up and GP margin reduces compared to first half last year. In my view, it is line with how Oceanus has historically explained its growth strategy.   2. HIGH OPERATING INCOME Valid observation. But again, it is actually good to know that Other Operating EXPENSES did not increase in the same rate that revenue did.  Rather than focusing on this, I' m more interested in seeing how Oceanus second half would do. It seems it have managed to clock close to SGD50m second half 2020, and thats just at the start of its distribution business. So at this rate, I' m not surprised to see it far higher 2H 2021 results. Especially so when consumer goods demand usually tends to peak in second half. At that point, I dare say this " high operating income" may be considered a non-issue.  3. TRADING BUSINESS = MORE LOANS Yes trading business needs cash, but I really dont understand why this is so alarming. You need cash to churn goods no? It really comes to the level and speed of turnover Oceanus can achieve in second half, which is back to my point 2 above. I' m generally quite excited about this.    4. DIGITAL PLATFORM This appears to be an industry disruptor and a game changer if played right. I' m not worried about timeline as of yet since this was announced at AGM recently in April.  I' m sure we all cannot wait to see this fly asap, but rome wasn' t built in a day was it? So in conclusion, I feel that calling pple out as " ignorant" , " out of their minds" , " jokers" or slinging dirt based on the nitpicking of selective  points above is really quite shortsighted. Or just generally disgruntled about life in general. But i choose to focus my effort on analysing the company and not you.  Peace!
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mondaybluesy
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16-Aug-2021 17:46
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Just because a company is " overvalued" on paper doesn' t mean you cannot make money investing.  Likewise, just because a company is " undervalued" on paper doesn' t mean you will sure make money investing.    I would suggest getting updated with other methods of investing too beyond value investing.  It would do good for personal growth to broaden one' s horizon. If you are going to be waiting for the share price to fall below a " fair valuation on paper" , then it is likely you would not have invested in equities for the past few years (Because everything is so expensive!).  Still, I am sure many here have benefitted from the equities and tech run in recent years. As many have pointed out repeatedly to the ignorant bears, Oceanus is on a growth trajectory, with a clear business plan that the management has continued to deliver so far.  If the plans come to fruition, Oceanus will be worth a lot more in a few short years than it is today. Since bears typically don' t do their homework, let me rehearse once more for deaf ears the gameplan:
That is why SGX needs to make a decision once and for all.  It removes the uncertainty that otherwise abounds for fud and fearmongering.    |
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SureStrike
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16-Aug-2021 17:42
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Ann lah! Why worried if u are Long for this counter.
Business growing just need more time lah! Ah lah lah lah Long, Long, Long! 🎶 🎵 🎼 😂 🤣 |
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Lightyear
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16-Aug-2021 17:36
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thinkthis rocket need more fuel ... But it's a down day for STI.. so can't expect much .. | ||||
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CheongArgh
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16-Aug-2021 17:35
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Trade with caution.....most penny counters are down, even with good results..... | ||||
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Jonng8888
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16-Aug-2021 16:46
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AwakenTide
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16-Aug-2021 16:45
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Most poeple are accumulating now, I am doing the same since it is a good bargain for upside in couple of months. 
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ckmpd1
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16-Aug-2021 16:28
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surgiooo
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16-Aug-2021 16:21
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I bet Alafun is not vaccinated yet. LOLL... | ||||
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CheongArgh
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16-Aug-2021 16:15
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Somehow I fail to understand what these ppl like alafun trying to achieve when they make such bear calls, especially when they claimed that they do not short. Is this guy trying to be guru by tikuming his thoughts aloud publicity ????? Of course, I know he won' t lose anything to say such things, even if it is proven wrong, he will just disappear, as always.....
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gregtan123
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16-Aug-2021 15:55
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Ok bro. I am ignorant haha. Whatver floats ur boat bro. End of the day, i repeat if u keep appearing in a forum to shout down but u dont actually do anything, u can say like many others it is to WARN others, but the qn is did u make money from this Bear Call? If never, i dont know why you are here or doing with ur life. I am here occassionally because I got a LONG call on tthis, I have skin in the game. And i also dont want others to sell a decent growth stock due to nonsense by most peeps.
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AlaFun
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16-Aug-2021 15:44
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I think you are very ignorant of stock investing. I say the reasonable price range is 0.01-0.015, this is based on their financial performance in 2021 onwards. This doesn' t mean the price will drop to this range, influenced by many factors, one of them is the high expectation of growing business/financials of the company. When company doesn' t make stories come true and people lose belief, it will collapse. I can' t predict the timing of this. If management can make stories come true, the price will surely soar. But right now i don' t see the trend. You like to talk up the price, like many others here. It is a fun for me to see your show, really.  
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