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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 16:04        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is actually a bonus to current shareholders..That means SIA is having a new source of funds from non shareholders. This is why this current MCB may see more take up rate. And MCB trading may take off. MCB will effectively be a proxy to mother share nngeeh      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:18) Posted: Bro, You missed out the 3rd scenario. You can also buy the MCB rights and subscribe. Those who do so, their cost will be just $2.86. $1000MCB -> 350 SIA after 10 yrs (cost of $2.857). Those without any SIA shares now can buy the MCB rights at $0.001. The cost will be $1001 -> 350 SIA shares. The cost will be $2.86 but will have to wait for 10yrs. investor999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 18:19) Posted: Dear Sparrow999: I share your concern of the dilution. Let' s assume there is 100,000 shares in total. 56,000 belongs to Temasek and to 44,000 others The MCB will dilute these shares by adding 354875 shares to the 100000 shares ( 100,000 / 100 X 209 X 1.69797 = 354875 ) The total number of shares ( old + new) = 454875 shares Let' s say the Market predict 4% take up rate by the " others" . The rest 96% goes to Temasek. 4% of 354875 new shares is 14195 shares 96% is  340680 shares Temasek will now have 56,000 + 340680 = 396680 shares Others will have 44,000 + 14195 = 58195 shares At the time of MCB issue there are total 100,000 / 100 X 209 = 209000 MCB' s If Temasek takes up 96%, it has to pay $200,640 Others who takes up 4% pays $8360 Let' s say the orignal shares were worth $5. The cost price for Temasek is now ( 56,000 X $5 +$200,640) / 396680 = $1.21 per share The cost price for " others" is now ( 44,000 X $5 + $8360 / 58195 = $3.92 per share These additional shares are not tradable until 2030.  Temasek is the owner and has reduced its cost. It can buy back shares any price it wants. So for the others with cost price $3.92 in 2030, not so bad right?
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RL16EGG Veteran	07-Jun-2021 16:02        RL16EGG About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	sia has been a big yawn. hunters need to have a lot of patience.
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 15:48        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today I bought 13,000 shares. Of course I not rich to sub everything. I buy small amount everyday. I bought more when you sold..Ha Ha Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 15:16) Posted: U sure u got buy or not? I doubt u bought any, sounds like your cash doesn' t run out one, infinity cash flow? Haha investor999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 14:20) Posted: Sorry I am very kia su type..I buy first before recovery.
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sjjt2020 Member	07-Jun-2021 15:36        sjjt2020 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Please do your homework, covid19 cases been dropping since late last week. Soon travel restriction will be loosen again (within a month) as usual.   parrow999 Senior Posted: 07-Jun-2021 15:13   x 0   x 0 Singapore low case and other countries high cases, come to sg still have to quanrantine 21days. Who wants to travel now?    sjjt2020           ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 14:12) Posted:   Sg Covid case dropping and soon Travel bubble will be back again. Buy if you can hold..should be back with a month. Good Luck.
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 15:32        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sparrow999: Don't be like that lah Market is supported not by me alone. There are so many players.
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 15:30        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No I am not. 100 units are market makers. I buy in 10,000 to 20,000 Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 15:19) Posted: Are u the one who buy up 100 units every time. Buy so little no effect one. Buy more, since u not scared Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 15:16) Posted: U sure u got buy or not? I doubt u bought any, sounds like your cash doesn' t run out one, infinity cash flow? Hah
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 15:19        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Are u the one who buy up 100 units every time. Buy so little no effect one. Buy more, since u not scared Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 15:16) Posted: U sure u got buy or not? I doubt u bought any, sounds like your cash doesn' t run out one, infinity cash flow? Haha investor999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 14:20) Posted: Sorry I am very kia su type..I buy first before recovery.
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 15:16        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U sure u got buy or not? I doubt u bought any, sounds like your cash doesn' t run out one, infinity cash flow? Haha investor999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 14:20) Posted: Sorry I am very kia su type..I buy first before recovery.
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 15:13        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singapore low case and other countries high cases, come to sg still have to quanrantine 21days. Who wants to travel now?  sjjt2020      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 14:12) Posted: Sg Covid case dropping and soon Travel bubble will be back again. Buy if you can hold..should be back with a month. Good Luck.
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 14:20        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry I am very kia su type..I buy first before recovery.
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wehuattogether88 Supreme	07-Jun-2021 14:18        wehuattogether88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It will take SIA quite a while to recovery, unless COVID suddenly disappear. Thats why its still burning money everyday as long as the planes are still grounded. And also they keep on raising money through bonds get cash injections which is not healthy if it goes into long term. Do not expect travel bubbles to bring it back to where it was pre-COVID. sjjt2020      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 14:12) Posted: Sg Covid case dropping and soon Travel bubble will be back again. Buy if you can hold..should be back with a month. Good Luck.
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sjjt2020 Member	07-Jun-2021 14:12        sjjt2020 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sg Covid case dropping and soon Travel bubble will be back again. Buy if you can hold..should be back with a month. Good Luck.
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 14:10        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is what I planned last week. Today my buy was at 4.87 investor999      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 15:46) Posted: Like you said have to use feelings. Market does not follow logic. My trade feelings tells me it is time a accumulate again. Next week I plan to buy more at 4.87 TigerPlay      ( Date: 04-Jun-2021 09:45) Posted: Bro, maybe can consider waiting a while leh, the covid thingy like getting worst, this can push SIA down alot one. I oso aiming to get more, but waiting first lo
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SembMarineLong Veteran	07-Jun-2021 11:03        SembMarineLong About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Long to enjoy
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TigerPlay Master	07-Jun-2021 10:25        TigerPlay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	4.85 still not low enuff. waiting for 4.50 before entry. $3 will be a dream if it come true and indeed if it comes true, SG economy should be in Big trouble. so far, the lowest i manage to secure is at 4.61, hopefully can break record. Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:08) Posted: From the recent $5.06 to $4.85 in just a few days can see the shareholders showing weakness holding this counter  Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:04) Posted: Slowly the shareholders will realise they are holding to a counter that can' t provide the yield they wanted and while many counters out there are surging and giving dividends These people will give up in the end and sell. Only a matter of tim
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 10:18        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And I will buy more Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:08) Posted: From the recent $5.06 to $4.85 in just a few days can see the shareholders showing weakness holding this counter  Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:04) Posted: Slowly the shareholders will realise they are holding to a counter that can' t provide the yield they wanted and while many counters out there are surging and giving dividends These people will give up in the end and sell. Only a matter of tim
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nngeeh Veteran	07-Jun-2021 10:18        nngeeh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, You missed out the 3rd scenario. You can also buy the MCB rights and subscribe. Those who do so, their cost will be just $2.86. $1000MCB -> 350 SIA after 10 yrs (cost of $2.857). Those without any SIA shares now can buy the MCB rights at $0.001. The cost will be $1001 -> 350 SIA shares. The cost will be $2.86 but will have to wait for 10yrs. investor999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 18:19) Posted: Dear Sparrow999: I share your concern of the dilution. Let' s assume there is 100,000 shares in total. 56,000 belongs to Temasek and to 44,000 others The MCB will dilute these shares by adding 354875 shares to the 100000 shares ( 100,000 / 100 X 209 X 1.69797 = 354875 ) The total number of shares ( old + new) = 454875 shares Let' s say the Market predict 4% take up rate by the " others" . The rest 96% goes to Temasek. 4% of 354875 new shares is 14195 shares 96% is  340680 shares Temasek will now have 56,000 + 340680 = 396680 shares Others will have 44,000 + 14195 = 58195 shares At the time of MCB issue there are total 100,000 / 100 X 209 = 209000 MCB' s If Temasek takes up 96%, it has to pay $200,640 Others who takes up 4% pays $8360 Let' s say the orignal shares were worth $5. The cost price for Temasek is now ( 56,000 X $5 +$200,640) / 396680 = $1.21 per share The cost price for " others" is now ( 44,000 X $5 + $8360 / 58195 = $3.92 per share These additional shares are not tradable until 2030.  Temasek is the owner and has reduced its cost. It can buy back shares any price it wants. So for the others with cost price $3.92 in 2030, not so bad right?   Sparrow999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 15:41) Posted: The problem about mcb is not about the unit share price after it matured. Its the additional billions of news shares adding into the total volume of SIA shares is deadly.  Firstly, it will definitely dilute the mother share severely, i estimated it will dilute the mother share price at least by half  secondly, when there' s so much shares in the market how to push up its share price? It' s extremely difficult to push its price in future
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 10:17        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A good article to read if u r still not sure what is mcb Sparrow999      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 21:13) Posted: A very easy to understand and good article about SIA mcb in case u still don' t know what is happening here. Do your own research before making any decisions  https://www.dividendtitan.com/would-i-buy-sias-rights-2021-mcb-today/
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 10:16        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The short sellers of SIA are not covering. That is why the price kept going down
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 10:12        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Share trading is about parallel play with company performance. In real life the performance sometimes do not follow. Very good examples are glove companies. Riverstone has been giving good dividends and rated very high. I bought that shares until I am so fed up. So share price cannot see company dividends. Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:04) Posted: Slowly the shareholders will realise they are holding to a counter that can' t provide the yield they wanted and while many counters out there are surging and giving dividends These people will give up in the end and sell. Only a matter of time TigerPlay      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:58) Posted: SiA is world famous, a renowed carrier, how to get cheap cheap one. i waiting till neck loong long for $4 or $3, but it very strong one, stick around $5 or 4.9plus....the lowest in recent time is still at 4.40plus when lock down announced few weeks ago...for it to hit $3 something real bad must happen to SG or the world...and if it does happen, other counters should be very jialet too ...
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