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Oceanus major business model restructure
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ckmpd1
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14-Mar-2021 12:57
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Tmrw and the rest of the week will be interesting for Oceanus.   
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ringo88
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14-Mar-2021 12:15
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Good post with a great set of questions.
Your own answers, whatever it may be, can guide you whether to buy, add or exit.
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AwakenTide
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14-Mar-2021 12:00
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Suddenly so many naysayers making the noises when Oceanus has just started turning uptrend. They will be FOMO on Monday, it really amused me of this metal hard rock band. | ||||
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14-Mar-2021 11:44
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Fundamental investing is passe. Say so much also no use, now is just fifo and fomo. See tesla, gme, bitcoin, thats where the serious (fed supported) money is, fundamental play is just short traps only, money is cheap, and like warran buffet say, the (US) market (maker) can stay (short) irrational(ly) longer than you can stay (mentally) solvent. Somemore nowadays fundametal good doesnt mean its accurate also, just see hyflux, noble, EHT, midas, and all the s-chip, do so much home work for what?
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FrancisLim
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14-Mar-2021 11:35
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At current price 3.6, its P/E is 100. Take away non-recurring inome, profit minimal with the big increase in revenue. Its cash flow was negative. Business model - fish tech - capitalizing on fintech popularity.    Brining fish nearer to the consumers - not sure if this is revolutionary.  No of share issued in billions - wondering why they did not consolidate the shares? There are other counters which one can trade..  What are we expecting from this Company - fish tech? Be wary on S chip.  Even CDL, one of the best in real estate sector    has it rough from its China investments.  There is one counter which  was supposed to find a niche in fruit health drinks  ... share price just slinking down. DYODD   |
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savage007
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14-Mar-2021 11:31
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SKlong,  Qn1: There could be many possibilities. Maybe shortist come into play and giving out fake rumours. Restricted buying from brokerage firms, etc. If you suspected foul play, pls check with the authorities. Qn2-8 Please do not try to sound saint on what the investors should do or think. It is their choice on whether if they should realise their profit or cut loss.    If one comes into the market, one has to be alert and enter the market with eyes open. One has to bear the risk if things may not go their way. We just have to do our own due diligence. I really do not understand what is your motive of stirring up unnecessary emotions here by asking certain questions. Every investor should come in with a trade plan before entering any stock. Qn 9- For this question, it is up to the investor to decide for themselves. But why compare with JT only? If you want to try to sound saint- the only advice to give here is to ask the forumers to trade with care and not comparing with any other stock. As every stock has its own characteristics and risks. Pls DYODD and trade with care.
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Ftyeng
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14-Mar-2021 11:04
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I bought extra at 5.5, 5 and 3.6 .   Had chance to offload when 4.x but skip. May have bought more at 2 cents if not for trading houses restriction.   But also don' t feel comfortable pumping more. Think I have to go long for this stock ( my worse ever paper loss stock ). I am kind of more comfortable with less volatile stocks and made good money from them.   Prior to this, my wors paper loss stock was Singtel. I can' t complain, after selling away lots of profitable stocks, I am still up by 5-digit for the past year. Will be patiently waiting for next quarter.  
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SureStrike
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14-Mar-2021 10:56
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All businesses need rolling lei! No up & no down how to roll?
So, let keep our yakult rolling. Let it roll, let it grow. More yakult for sure! 😂 🤣 Good luck to all Oceaners. Long to enjoy. DYODD 👊 😃
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Blowyouoff
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14-Mar-2021 10:53
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We are in pretty situation(bought at 6) but different in our approaches... I got holdings at 6.1 too but when it was down to 3 cents, I double up  offloaded when it was 4+cents  when it was down to 2 cents, double up again.. no plan at all to offload at the moment 
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Ftyeng
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14-Mar-2021 10:44
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BB heard news about it being unstable ( can drop by 45.3% in one day so less number of them would enter to buy ).   Most likely, only good financial report next qurater would push it to 5 cents. Personally, I entered purchasing only $12xx at 6.1 cents using spare money from profits of other stocks the day before it dropped by 45.3% from 6.4 cents to 3.4 cents.   The news on TV were reporting about it to viewers too.   So everyone in Singapore playing shares knows about this stock being unstable.   I believe only release of good news next qurater could push it up..... as much as I wish for it to go up fast, I think in our cases must go long.....
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sklong138
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14-Mar-2021 09:58
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I am open to any other counters, but to narrow down the comparison between Jiutian & oceanus for some analytical though.
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Blowyouoff
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14-Mar-2021 09:50
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To answer some of your questions, I am vested in Place Holdings, Grand venture, leaders, ETC, enviro, joyas, avarga, Sri Trang... but at the moment, none of above seem to be more interesting as compared to Oceanus... .why you   only restrict the comparison to Jiutian?
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sklong138
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14-Mar-2021 09:33
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Questions 1. With so much good news on the turnaround from loss to profibility & moving towards foodtech as their business strategy. Why there is a plunged of 300% in its share price within a week? 2. Is the current share price sustainable of such high P/E ratio? 3. Do you think the major selldown by BBs are due to "fake" rumours? 4. Or Do you think the major selldown are more likely due to profit taking? 5. For long term investors, do you think it is better to take profit now & protect your hard earn money including profit & wait till 15 Apr on the outcome of the company fulfilment of the financial exit criteria? 6. What is the safety net to protect your investment, if the company is unable to fulfill the financial exit criteria and require to propose an exit offer and subsequently be delisted from SGX? 7. What are the merits of holding on to your current stakes in view of the massive plunge of its share price? What are the investment risk involve by holding to your current stakes? 8. Are there better counters to park your investment in term of company profibility & p/e ratio for long term investment? 9. Between Jiutian & Oceanus, which one will give u a better assurance for your return of investment? | ||||
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Goodgoing
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14-Mar-2021 07:23
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Oceanus is a best counter for trader to trade. Up and down, got ppl make money. Swim inside oceanus, swimming skill mot important, just stick to the big whales, wait for BB bring this back to recent high. For me, 5 cent I very happy liao. | ||||
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ckmpd1
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14-Mar-2021 06:23
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savage007
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14-Mar-2021 01:34
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My ans to ur qn1: Pls ask the BB, i cant and unable to ans on their behalf.
My ans to ur qn2: You have misinterpreted my statement. What I had mentioned was that the sell down could be due to other unknown factors and fake rumours may have make it worse. I did not say sell down is PURELY due to fake rumours, which is a totally different meaning. Everyone knows what the impact of fake news can bring. Thats why we have POFMA. Hence fake rumours COULD also accelerate the fall of the share pr. That is my basis. With the news report available, it is up to u to interpret whether the rumours are fake or not.
My ans to ur qn3: To be logical, for any public clarification to be made will need to go through thorough investigation and that takes time. Also if a company were to clarify for the movement on its stock price- shouldn' t we the investors be more worried? Even the recent clarification is not about/due to the drastic price movement but the involvement of personal attacks and slanderous remarks on the CEO and his mgmt. Please get this clear.
  In forums like this, everyone is free to share their viewpoints and opinions. It would be unethical to post  baseless malicious remarks that entail personal attacks and distort investors' decisions. As I mentioned before, pls be mindful and dyodd. If one wishes to step into the stock mkt, he must be mentally prepare to take on the gains and the losses, especially contra players. This is the cold hard truth. You cannot blame the company for the a decision which you had made.
I do not wish to argue. Let' s be more objective and move on
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Blowyouoff
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14-Mar-2021 01:01
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I am re-posting below some of the news release by Oceanus since June 2020... all longists should be glad there had been numerous positive news release prior to the price surge.. we should really be worried if price surge is without any valid reasons, as seen in several other counters...  from positive financial results, awards winnngs, joint ventures, acquisitions, Jacob ibrahim etc etc...so glad to be highly vested in this counter....  let' s welcome the negative comments and not be affected ..what' s more important are below long list of News Release:   1) The Company will also investigate the circumstances around the Misleading Information and pursue all legal avenues to protect its interest and shareholders, including but not limited to civil suits and lodging police report(s).   2)OCEANUS ACHIEVES RECORD-HIGH REVENUE AND A PROFIT TURNAROUND FOR FY2020 - Oceanus&rsquo FY2020 revenue surged 9.5 times to S$91.7 million1, the highest turnover since Group&rsquo s listing in 2008 o Driven by the Group&rsquo s successful business transformation across its four growth pillars - Achieves positive net profit growth to S$8.6 million, a turnaround from a loss of S$7.4 million in FY2019 - To continue nurturing broadened revenue streams, and focusing on innovations in the food technology area - To move forward with extension of time to exit SGX-ST Watch-List, having achieved positive net income for FY20202 o Based on audited full-year consolidated accounts to be released on or before 15 April 2021   3)OCEANUS SUBSIDIARY AP MEDIA CONFERRED &ldquo EXCELLENCE IN EVENT MARKETING (VIRTUAL)&rdquo IN RECOGNITION OF ITS CAMPAIGN &ndash &ldquo THE FRONT ROW&rdquo IN MARKETING EXCELLENCE AWARDS 2020   4)OCEANUS ACHIEVES STRONG REVENUE AND PROFIT GROWTH IN Q3 2020, SETS UP WORLD&rsquo S FIRST OCEANUS FOODTECH HUB IN HAINAN, CHINA - Oceanus&rsquo Q3 2020 revenue surges to RMB175.3 million, a 364% increase from Q3 2019 revenue, the highest turnover since FY2011 - Sets up the world&rsquo s first Oceanus FoodTech Hub in Hainan with joint venture partner, Hainan Raffles Group (&ldquo HRG&rdquo ), a Chinese conglomerate   5) FORMER COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION MINISTER DR. YAACOB BIN IBRAHIM JOINS OCEANUS AS INDEPENDENT DIRECTOR - Adds diversity to Board of Directors with extensive and varied experience including in the area of Environment and Water Resources, and Communications and Information   6) OCEANUS INVESTS IN UNIVERSAL AQUACULTURE FOR DEEP TECH INDOOR FARMING - High tech indoor farming facility to breed live and fresh vannamei prawns - Focused on driving business growth through strategic partnerships and creation of new revenue streams for sustainable growth   7) OCEANUS&rsquo PARTNERSHIP WITH A CHINESE FMCG CONGLOERATE, SEASON HONG, GAINS MOMENTUM IN CHINA AND SOUTHEAST ASIA - Oceanus&rsquo most significant investment, to be made in partnership, totals S$20.0 million from both corporates - S$7.0 million in turnover and S$13.7 million in confirmed orders within first two months of operations   8) NEW SHAREHOLDER GROUP ACQUIRES SIGNIFICANT STAKE IN OCEANUS REPRESENTING EXIT OF THE LAST OF MAJOR EX-CREDITOR GROUP - Several institutional funds and accredited investors took up significant stake in Oceanus via a married deal - New shareholder group represents a vote of confidence in Oceanus&rsquo future prospects - A significant exit of the last of the major creditor group that became shareholders of Oceanus following a debt restructuring exercise in 2017      
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AwakenTide
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14-Mar-2021 00:38
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Good for you that you made it out fast. I am good at both regardless up or down now. You don' t have to talk down the price afterall I presumed that you have gained quite a lot. For the gain you can reenter any price lower now.
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14-Mar-2021 00:24
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Like that i kah Su abit I managed to dumping 6000 lots all my holding at $0.064 nia ..now try to talk down the price so that can buy back at lower ..  
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ckh002
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14-Mar-2021 00:22
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Sure bo.... look at Nico Steel. SSH Value Capital Asset even sold at $0.001. It was eventually Delisted on 16/11/20 and still no payment to shareholders and no even a single letter to shareholder. My ~50million Shares are sunk in the Ocean Liao🥲 . Else can take the cash to support high tech farming!
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