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Starship Supreme	29-Apr-2019 15:20        Starship About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tiger04      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 15:07) Posted: Wonder who is shivering. The ones commiting Financial Terrxxxm or BW Leehonghng      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 15:01) Posted: Anyway, both SGX and the Commercial Affairs Department are looking after them and will call the Directors concerned for interviews soon. Another Hyflux type of con game again!
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Tiger04 Senior	29-Apr-2019 15:07        Tiger04 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wonder who is shivering. The ones commiting Financial Terrxxxm or BW Leehonghng      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 15:01) Posted: Anyway, both SGX and the Commercial Affairs Department are looking after them and will call the Directors concerned for interviews soon. Another Hyflux type of con game again! Rashi08      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 14:33) Posted: There are so many factual errors , these show they are not doing good due diligence
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 15:03        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This one real LLP SG. i dun talk to clones.   Rashi08      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 14:33) Posted: There are so many factual errors , these show they are not doing good due diligence. Operator81      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 12:39) Posted: Sen9999, what make you think the shortists did not do their due diligence? What is half truth? Tell me which is the correct answer below? 1) The glass is half full. 2) The glass is half empty.   Dun you agree that both are correct answers
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Shifu8888 Supreme	29-Apr-2019 15:03        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is defamation. You have to watch what you type. Instead of (are), please use (May). How sure are you that this is happening? Leehonghng      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 15:01) Posted: Anyway, both SGX and the Commercial Affairs Department are looking after them and will call the Directors concerned for interviews soon. Another Hyflux type of con game again! Rashi08      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 14:33) Posted: There are so many factual errors , these show they are not doing good due diligence
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Leehonghng Member	29-Apr-2019 15:01        Leehonghng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyway, both SGX and the Commercial Affairs Department are looking after them and will call the Directors concerned for interviews soon. Another Hyflux type of con game again! Rashi08      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 14:33) Posted: There are so many factual errors , these show they are not doing good due diligence. Operator81      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 12:39) Posted: Sen9999, what make you think the shortists did not do their due diligence? What is half truth? Tell me which is the correct answer below? 1) The glass is half full. 2) The glass is half empty.   Dun you agree that both are correct answers
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Rashi08 Member	29-Apr-2019 14:33        Rashi08 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There are so many factual errors , these show they are not doing good due diligence. Operator81      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 12:39) Posted: Sen9999, what make you think the shortists did not do their due diligence? What is half truth? Tell me which is the correct answer below? 1) The glass is half full. 2) The glass is half empty.   Dun you agree that both are correct answers? Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 11:21) Posted: Yes I am on the other side of the camp because I spend days reading up about the company, the reports, the short sellers, the clarification. I read it many times, trying to make sense of everything, talk to people, go to FB, IG etc I interpret the meaning as getting wealth from correct means, and not through unethical methods such as reporting half truth. No? Means I still need further education on my Chinese 😂 😂
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 12:41        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, with Newater. Atom99      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 12:40) Posted: It is refillable.
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Atom99 Master	29-Apr-2019 12:40        Atom99 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood: Yells: "Once you hv eliminated the impossible,whatever remains TRUTH"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is refillable.
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 12:39        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sen9999, what make you think the shortists did not do their due diligence? What is half truth? Tell me which is the correct answer below? 1) The glass is half full. 2) The glass is half empty.   Dun you agree that both are correct answers? Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 11:21) Posted: Yes I am on the other side of the camp because I spend days reading up about the company, the reports, the short sellers, the clarification. I read it many times, trying to make sense of everything, talk to people, go to FB, IG etc I interpret the meaning as getting wealth from correct means, and not through unethical methods such as reporting half truth. No? Means I still need further education on my Chinese 😂 😂 Operator81      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 11:08) Posted: You are against short sellers because they are on different side of the camp? Once you put your 💰 in the market, be prepared for any events, it can be short sellers, it can be broad market movement, it can be external event like war and it can be natural disaster. Do you even understand what is 君 子 爱 财 取 之 有 道 to say that? 知 之 为 知 之 ， 不 知 为 不 知 ， 是 知 也 。   And let me tell you something, i am never on the short side of the market.
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 12:24        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If you sell at $3 and it goes up further, let other people earn because they willing to take the risk from $3 onwards. Many years ago, I ever lost a 6 digit profit with such a mindset.  Customer or you cheated by ktv gal? you learn economics? Ceteris Paribus.
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newpattern Senior	29-Apr-2019 11:55        newpattern About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hongkees and China are very tactful Money is everything If it ever goes to $3 again and you do not sell, you are stupid. If you sell at $3.00 and it goes up further how ??? One ktv gal told me this: if i get cheated by a customer once, it is his intelligence. if i get cheated the second time, it is my stupidity. customer get cheated by KTV girl how ?? Operator81      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:24) Posted: If it ever goes to $3 again and you do not sell, you are stupid. One ktv gal told me this: if i get cheated by a customer once, it is his intelligence. if i get cheated the second time, it is my stupidity. newpattern      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:10) Posted:   Singapore favours China companies to invest. Hope it does not go to $3.00 again soon
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Sen9999 Member	29-Apr-2019 11:21        Sen9999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes I am on the other side of the camp because I spend days reading up about the company, the reports, the short sellers, the clarification. I read it many times, trying to make sense of everything, talk to people, go to FB, IG etc I interpret the meaning as getting wealth from correct means, and not through unethical methods such as reporting half truth. No? Means I still need further education on my Chinese 😂 😂 Operator81      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 11:08) Posted: You are against short sellers because they are on different side of the camp? Once you put your 💰 in the market, be prepared for any events, it can be short sellers, it can be broad market movement, it can be external event like war and it can be natural disaster. Do you even understand what is 君 子 爱 财 取 之 有 道 to say that? 知 之 为 知 之 ， 不 知 为 不 知 ， 是 知 也 。   And let me tell you something, i am never on the short side of the market.   Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:53) Posted: Yes, I am very against these short sellers, unless it is a perfectly written piece of work, with really extensive research done. From the first page, there are already so many mistakes made. Let's see how many mistakes BW finds in the report. There is a Chinese saying, 君 子 爱 财 ， 取 之 有 道 . Today some of us are holding long position, one day, it may be your turn that you are holding long position and a serial liar shortist attack your position. Look at the report( Nikkei and CNA report) they say most of them run when they release the report, so who is going to be left behind? Retailors again.
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bayduck Member	29-Apr-2019 11:16        bayduck About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And would you impose the same standards on the people that go Long? In other words, unless it&rsquo s a perfectly written piece of Long research, with really extensive research done, otherwise you won&rsquo t support the Long research. highly doubt it. By the way, in my view the analytical rigor of the RHB analyst (that cowardly ceased coverage just a few days ago) is worse than Bonitas. Yet I bet most people that longed BW must have applauded whatever research she did. Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:53) Posted: Yes, I am very against these short sellers, unless it is a perfectly written piece of work, with really extensive research done. From the first page, there are already so many mistakes made. Let's see how many mistakes BW finds in the report. There is a Chinese saying, 君 子 爱 财 ， 取 之 有 道 . Today some of us are holding long position, one day, it may be your turn that you are holding long position and a serial liar shortist attack your position. Look at the report( Nikkei and CNA report) they say most of them run when they release the report, so who is going to be left behind? Retailors again. stockpicker      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:08) Posted: The Reputable Shortists are not always correct unless they have got information from the insiders or was a insider before...The companies who wants to commit fraud would never be so stupid to leave trails behind  and let external parties pick them up.  If they ever left a trail,  they would quickly wipe them clean.    Only the insiders could have these information.. There are exception of course,  especially those many " Innocent Chinese farmers" who have been " duped" during the 80/90s or even after 2000,   into believing they can get rich by listing their companies in Singapore or in the US,  not knowing that they were being used by the syndicates to " drain money" out of the companies.. when these syndicates are done,  they become the insiders and informed the US short sellers about the companies' " rotten deals" So be very careful with these so called professional and reputable short selling companies.. they are just like you and me,  knowing only what we suppose to know on the surface.  Don' t ever believe they always have the correct insider information unless you are prepare  to part with your money..but run as far if you can when they attack.. let them fight and suffer.. pick up the carcass after the battle.
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 11:08        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are against short sellers because they are on different side of the camp? Once you put your 💰 in the market, be prepared for any events, it can be short sellers, it can be broad market movement, it can be external event like war and it can be natural disaster. Do you even understand what is 君 子 爱 财 取 之 有 道 to say that? 知 之 为 知 之 ， 不 知 为 不 知 ， 是 知 也 。   And let me tell you something, i am never on the short side of the market.   Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:53) Posted: Yes, I am very against these short sellers, unless it is a perfectly written piece of work, with really extensive research done. From the first page, there are already so many mistakes made. Let's see how many mistakes BW finds in the report. There is a Chinese saying, 君 子 爱 财 ， 取 之 有 道 . Today some of us are holding long position, one day, it may be your turn that you are holding long position and a serial liar shortist attack your position. Look at the report( Nikkei and CNA report) they say most of them run when they release the report, so who is going to be left behind? Retailors again. stockpicker      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:08) Posted: The Reputable Shortists are not always correct unless they have got information from the insiders or was a insider before...The companies who wants to commit fraud would never be so stupid to leave trails behind  and let external parties pick them up.  If they ever left a trail,  they would quickly wipe them clean.    Only the insiders could have these information.. There are exception of course,  especially those many " Innocent Chinese farmers" who have been " duped" during the 80/90s or even after 2000,   into believing they can get rich by listing their companies in Singapore or in the US,  not knowing that they were being used by the syndicates to " drain money" out of the companies.. when these syndicates are done,  they become the insiders and informed the US short sellers about the companies' " rotten deals" So be very careful with these so called professional and reputable short selling companies.. they are just like you and me,  knowing only what we suppose to know on the surface.  Don' t ever believe they always have the correct insider information unless you are prepare  to part with your money..but run as far if you can when they attack.. let them fight and suffer.. pick up the carcass after the battle.
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Sen9999 Member	29-Apr-2019 10:53        Sen9999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, I am very against these short sellers, unless it is a perfectly written piece of work, with really extensive research done. From the first page, there are already so many mistakes made. Let's see how many mistakes BW finds in the report. There is a Chinese saying, 君 子 爱 财 ， 取 之 有 道 . Today some of us are holding long position, one day, it may be your turn that you are holding long position and a serial liar shortist attack your position. Look at the report( Nikkei and CNA report) they say most of them run when they release the report, so who is going to be left behind? Retailors again. stockpicker      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:08) Posted: The Reputable Shortists are not always correct unless they have got information from the insiders or was a insider before...The companies who wants to commit fraud would never be so stupid to leave trails behind  and let external parties pick them up.  If they ever left a trail,  they would quickly wipe them clean.    Only the insiders could have these information.. There are exception of course,  especially those many " Innocent Chinese farmers" who have been " duped" during the 80/90s or even after 2000,   into believing they can get rich by listing their companies in Singapore or in the US,  not knowing that they were being used by the syndicates to " drain money" out of the companies.. when these syndicates are done,  they become the insiders and informed the US short sellers about the companies' " rotten deals" So be very careful with these so called professional and reputable short selling companies.. they are just like you and me,  knowing only what we suppose to know on the surface.  Don' t ever believe they always have the correct insider information unless you are prepare  to part with your money..but run as far if you can when they attack.. let them fight and suffer.. pick up the carcass after the battle.. Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 02:10) Posted: People who are commenting on Reputatable Shortist, did extensive research, impossible to have no truth in those reports, look at these links. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/short---distort--the-ugly-war-between-ceos-and-activist-critics-11365684 https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Markets/US-short-seller-fights-Hong-Kong-regulator-over-free-speech And you will read about why these reports are usually lies and more lies. When people say 无 风 不 起 浪 , yes. When there is just a small wind, people think the big wind is coming. Even the signs that big wind is not coming is presented, rumormongers will take the chance to "cheat" pple that the wind is coming to create fear.
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stockpicker Master	29-Apr-2019 10:37        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In China,  almost everyone knows what is MLM pyramid sellings as many are the sufferers and words spread around but not many know who is genuine who is not..so  they go by identifying if the company has a license to operate.. so getting a license is very important   otherwise,  no sale.. it was definitely not an easy task in China to get any license. once you got the license,  every one want to become your agent to sell your product.    think 999 out of 1000 of these are doing some form of MLM pyramid sellings.    I think also  BWL is putting out " ChangSha Best" to test the market,  so that if anything were to go wrong,    BWL China will not get affected and lost the license.. Think BWL thought it was right in 2018 to transform DS totally to Franchise when they got the Franchising license... so they shut " ChangSha Best" down and transfer all the money out... no frauds.. the above are just my thoughts.. lets wait for BWL to clarify.. Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 09:51) Posted: http://txjy.syggs.mofcom.gov.cn/manager/prosecute.do?method=add&id=6652565 Refer to this. They mentioned they obtained the DS license but they have not use it at all to DS in China. Sin_Cos_Tan      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 09:21) Posted: 1. 2016年 6月 7日 ， 全 美 世 界 （ 浙 江 ） 药 业 有 限 公 司 获 得 了 直 销 经 营 许 可 证 （ 俗 称 " 直 销 牌 照 " " DS" ） 。 这 一 成 果 来 之 不 易 ， 想 在 中 国 拿 到 一 张 直 销 行 业 的 " 入 场 券 " 太 难 了 ， 十 多 年 来 ， 商 务 部 总 共 才 颁 发 了 91 张 直 销 经 营 许 可 证 （ 据 商 务 部 直 销 查 询 平 台 数 据 ） 。 据 公 开 信 息 ， 全 美 世 界 （ 浙 江 ） 药 业 有 限 公 司 注 册 于 2000年 9月 30日 ， 对 应 2016年 才 拿 到 直 销 经 营 许 可 证 ， 已 历 经 了 漫 长 的 16年 。 2. BW only transitioned to the Franchise Model in China in the second quarter of 2018. (But can' t google the licence) 直 销 经 营 许 可 证 *DS licence)  - 7/6/2016
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 10:24        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If it ever goes to $3 again and you do not sell, you are stupid. One ktv gal told me this: if i get cheated by a customer once, it is his intelligence. if i get cheated the second time, it is my stupidity. newpattern      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 10:10) Posted:   Singapore favours China companies to invest. Hope it does not go to $3.00 again soon   jm2212      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 09:35) Posted: This will happen since majority of shares are in controlled by few big players, just need to initiate company share buy back plus bosses pump in some money. What is company announce superb result and declare special dividend? So long no authority comes out with any confirmed wrong doings
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Operator81 Senior	29-Apr-2019 10:19        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Everyone, since the stock is halted, while waiting, let us do a role play: say you are give $3 million credit (full leverage) in your current situation, some being longed and some being shorted, what will you do? Why $3 million because the intention is to see how most retail player will react and it is not enough for you to orchestrate the stock movement. let me start the ⚽ ️ rolling: I will pass.
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newpattern Senior	29-Apr-2019 10:10        newpattern About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singapore favours China companies to invest. Hope it does not go to $3.00 again soon   jm2212      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 09:35) Posted: This will happen since majority of shares are in controlled by few big players, just need to initiate company share buy back plus bosses pump in some money. What is company announce superb result and declare special dividend? So long no authority comes out with any confirmed wrong doings newpattern      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 08:17) Posted: 24th April 2019 - Around 8 million intra day trades for around 2 hours of trade -before trading halt 2 million shorts  caught unaware ?? Trading halted lifted before 6th May 2019. There will be some forced selling and short covering
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stockpicker Master	29-Apr-2019 10:08        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The Reputable Shortists are not always correct unless they have got information from the insiders or was a insider before...The companies who wants to commit fraud would never be so stupid to leave trails behind  and let external parties pick them up.  If they ever left a trail,  they would quickly wipe them clean.    Only the insiders could have these information.. There are exception of course,  especially those many " Innocent Chinese farmers" who have been " duped" during the 80/90s or even after 2000,   into believing they can get rich by listing their companies in Singapore or in the US,  not knowing that they were being used by the syndicates to " drain money" out of the companies.. when these syndicates are done,  they become the insiders and informed the US short sellers about the companies' " rotten deals" So be very careful with these so called professional and reputable short selling companies.. they are just like you and me,  knowing only what we suppose to know on the surface.  Don' t ever believe they always have the correct insider information unless you are prepare  to part with your money..but run as far if you can when they attack.. let them fight and suffer.. pick up the carcass after the battle.. Sen9999      ( Date: 29-Apr-2019 02:10) Posted: People who are commenting on Reputatable Shortist, did extensive research, impossible to have no truth in those reports, look at these links. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/short---distort--the-ugly-war-between-ceos-and-activist-critics-11365684 https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Markets/US-short-seller-fights-Hong-Kong-regulator-over-free-speech And you will read about why these reports are usually lies and more lies. When people say 无 风 不 起 浪 , yes. When there is just a small wind, people think the big wind is coming. Even the signs that big wind is not coming is presented, rumormongers will take the chance to "cheat" pple that the wind is coming to create fear.
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