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Starship Supreme	06-Apr-2019 19:12        Starship About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	runaway      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 18:42) Posted: I find the comversation amusing. GS touched the low at $0.86 last October. Did anyone buy? likely no. You are now all taking and waiting for $0.90? It is inderstandable. We are all human. When it was $0.86, people were shouting and waiting for $76, and so  on...
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Qanghoo Supreme	06-Apr-2019 18:59        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Then who bought? runaway      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 18:42) Posted: I find the comversation amusing. GS touched the low at $0.86 last October. Did anyone buy? likely no. You are now all taking and waiting for $0.90? It is inderstandable. We are all human. When it was $0.86, people were shouting and waiting for $76, and so  on...
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runaway Senior	06-Apr-2019 18:42        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I find the comversation amusing. GS touched the low at $0.86 last October. Did anyone buy? likely no. You are now all taking and waiting for $0.90? It is inderstandable. We are all human. When it was $0.86, people were shouting and waiting for $76, and so  on...
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Qanghoo Supreme	06-Apr-2019 18:34        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wait to take higher div for what.  Div gradually increased n debt shrunk over the last few yrs.  But share px also got lower.  What a joke.  That' s why I' m neither a div preacher nor desciple.  Hahaha .... Trader130      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:24) Posted:   Buy first then say.. take dividend   2 cents wo🤣 freebies ... you care so much also no use... because you only analyse but not mathematician on fundermantal 🤣 WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:09) Posted: This will prolly happen in a few years time . Meanwhile the price will be under selling pressure. It?s good to buy but prolly not now . When the dust is settled ( dividend and future dividend guidance declared, method of fund raising ( bonds , loans or rights if rights confirm the share price tank. If loans or bonds means less dividend until more money roll in ) then I will buy in. Mean time it?s a waiting game.
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Qanghoo Supreme	06-Apr-2019 18:22        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, I think the key phase is ' they have done their sums' .  All businesses n businessmen do, n some even seem to have an uncanny nack of seeing beyond the horizon.  Just bear in mind, no one is here to do charity.  So, I' d also love to buy < 90 if it' s engineered down to that level or lower - the lower the more we' d love of course ..... Goldfinger      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 17:10) Posted: Frankly - I want to buy more below 90centd too - but these Lim are multi billionaire - smarter than any new grad Analysts - they have done their sums and no one can force them to invest $4-$5bil unless they see value and potential - another 1,000 hotel rooms is a lot and the plot ratio of RWS shoots up 50percent.
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Trader130 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 18:20        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A lot. Analyst do not know it potential , esp, hotel line is lucrative .🤣 Goldfinger      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 17:10) Posted: Frankly - I want to buy more below 90centd too - but these Lim are multi billionaire - smarter than any new grad Analysts - they have done their sums and no one can force them to invest $4-$5bil unless they see value and potential - another 1,000 hotel rooms is a lot and the plot ratio of RWS shoots up 50percent.
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Goldfinger Supreme	06-Apr-2019 17:10        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Frankly - I want to buy more below 90centd too - but these Lim are multi billionaire - smarter than any new grad Analysts - they have done their sums and no one can force them to invest $4-$5bil unless they see value and potential - another 1,000 hotel rooms is a lot and the plot ratio of RWS shoots up 50percent.
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kandinsky Master	06-Apr-2019 16:49        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Happy queuing at above $1 when things settle in future. WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:09) Posted: This will prolly happen in a few years time . Meanwhile the price will be under selling pressure. It?s good to buy but prolly not now . When the dust is settled ( dividend and future dividend guidance declared, method of fund raising ( bonds , loans or rights if rights confirm the share price tank. If loans or bonds means less dividend until more money roll in ) then I will buy in. Mean time it?s a waiting game. . kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:02) Posted: With so many people queuing at 90+cents, what do you think? Will GS sit around doing nothing with IR expansion? Dream cruises not making money? etc etc... It is precisely because GS is doing well which is why they are confident of venturing into Japan. With so many avenues for growth, you think price will drop to 70-80 cents? Analysts'are bullish, so are many on the sidelines
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Trader130 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 16:24        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Buy first then say.. take dividend   2 cents wo🤣 freebies ... you care so much also no use... because you only analyse but not mathematician on fundermantal 🤣 WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:09) Posted: This will prolly happen in a few years time . Meanwhile the price will be under selling pressure. It?s good to buy but prolly not now . When the dust is settled ( dividend and future dividend guidance declared, method of fund raising ( bonds , loans or rights if rights confirm the share price tank. If loans or bonds means less dividend until more money roll in ) then I will buy in. Mean time it?s a waiting game. . kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:02) Posted: With so many people queuing at 90+cents, what do you think? Will GS sit around doing nothing with IR expansion? Dream cruises not making money? etc etc... It is precisely because GS is doing well which is why they are confident of venturing into Japan. With so many avenues for growth, you think price will drop to 70-80 cents? Analysts'are bullish, so are many on the sidelines
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WL123456 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 16:13        WL123456 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	and to quote you , most analyst are bearish , not bullish . You can check their call . Most downgrade to either hold or sell. Those with buy target ask reduce those target price and those quoted the TP above 1.10, you know analyst target is always overstated by at least 10-20%. Take care . kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:02) Posted: With so many people queuing at 90+cents, what do you think? Will GS sit around doing nothing with IR expansion? Dream cruises not making money? etc etc... It is precisely because GS is doing well which is why they are confident of venturing into Japan. With so many avenues for growth, you think price will drop to 70-80 cents? Analysts'are bullish, so are many on the sidelines. WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 14:36) Posted: I have a short term target of $0.80 for Genting . Reasons as follow : 1) I foresee lower dividend for next few FYs as GS needs to plough money into the new $4.5 billion project . Net cash of sgd3.26bil is insufficient so they will either raise money by issuing rights , bonds or borrowings all of which will incur either financial cost or dilution of shareholders value . 2) institutional investors might bail out in view diminishing margin of return both dividend and stock value wise . They include Phillips, Ocbc , cimb, RHB, UOB Kay Hian , Morgan Stanley Merrill lynch and DBS Vickers . 3) Most Analysts downgrade to hold with no buy ratings meaning shares will have downward pressure coming days . 4) TA wise , HA showing negative down trend with Long red candle representing huge selling pressure . 5) overall negative environment as government is trying to send a message about gambling with an increase in Levy for Singaporean. $50 means singaporean may consider alternative such as Genting highland or overseas IR such as those new ones in Jeju, Korea for example. Japan is also opening new IRs which will attract China gamblers as its nearer to travel to Japan . Note that a better analysis will be available once we know what are Genting plans on raising funds in the Money Markets as we will be then able to more accurately calculate their finance cost . The non gaming component is usually subsidised by the profit from gaming component so we can considered the profit contribution as negligible . Overall it will benefit the Singapore economy as the money will create jobs across various industries and the 7% increase in tax levied will be of course the icing on the cake. However , it cannot be taken for granted that tourist number may increase coming into Singapore and that?s a big IF. What I do know is that the Singapore is the big winner while it?s cloudy skies ahead for Genting Singapore . MBS will also benefit more as they get to increase their game to plot ratio compared to Genting . Hence , I suggest investors to wait for clearer skies before putting their monies back in to Genting again .
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WL123456 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 16:09        WL123456 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This will prolly happen in a few years time . Meanwhile the price will be under selling pressure. It?s good to buy but prolly not now . When the dust is settled ( dividend and future dividend guidance declared, method of fund raising ( bonds , loans or rights if rights confirm the share price tank. If loans or bonds means less dividend until more money roll in ) then I will buy in. Mean time it?s a waiting game. . kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 16:02) Posted: With so many people queuing at 90+cents, what do you think? Will GS sit around doing nothing with IR expansion? Dream cruises not making money? etc etc... It is precisely because GS is doing well which is why they are confident of venturing into Japan. With so many avenues for growth, you think price will drop to 70-80 cents? Analysts'are bullish, so are many on the sidelines. WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 14:36) Posted: I have a short term target of $0.80 for Genting . Reasons as follow : 1) I foresee lower dividend for next few FYs as GS needs to plough money into the new $4.5 billion project . Net cash of sgd3.26bil is insufficient so they will either raise money by issuing rights , bonds or borrowings all of which will incur either financial cost or dilution of shareholders value . 2) institutional investors might bail out in view diminishing margin of return both dividend and stock value wise . They include Phillips, Ocbc , cimb, RHB, UOB Kay Hian , Morgan Stanley Merrill lynch and DBS Vickers . 3) Most Analysts downgrade to hold with no buy ratings meaning shares will have downward pressure coming days . 4) TA wise , HA showing negative down trend with Long red candle representing huge selling pressure . 5) overall negative environment as government is trying to send a message about gambling with an increase in Levy for Singaporean. $50 means singaporean may consider alternative such as Genting highland or overseas IR such as those new ones in Jeju, Korea for example. Japan is also opening new IRs which will attract China gamblers as its nearer to travel to Japan . Note that a better analysis will be available once we know what are Genting plans on raising funds in the Money Markets as we will be then able to more accurately calculate their finance cost . The non gaming component is usually subsidised by the profit from gaming component so we can considered the profit contribution as negligible . Overall it will benefit the Singapore economy as the money will create jobs across various industries and the 7% increase in tax levied will be of course the icing on the cake. However , it cannot be taken for granted that tourist number may increase coming into Singapore and that?s a big IF. What I do know is that the Singapore is the big winner while it?s cloudy skies ahead for Genting Singapore . MBS will also benefit more as they get to increase their game to plot ratio compared to Genting . Hence , I suggest investors to wait for clearer skies before putting their monies back in to Genting again .
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kandinsky Master	06-Apr-2019 16:02        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	With so many people queuing at 90+cents, what do you think? Will GS sit around doing nothing with IR expansion? Dream cruises not making money? etc etc... It is precisely because GS is doing well which is why they are confident of venturing into Japan. With so many avenues for growth, you think price will drop to 70-80 cents? Analysts'are bullish, so are many on the sidelines. WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 14:36) Posted: I have a short term target of $0.80 for Genting . Reasons as follow : 1) I foresee lower dividend for next few FYs as GS needs to plough money into the new $4.5 billion project . Net cash of sgd3.26bil is insufficient so they will either raise money by issuing rights , bonds or borrowings all of which will incur either financial cost or dilution of shareholders value . 2) institutional investors might bail out in view diminishing margin of return both dividend and stock value wise . They include Phillips, Ocbc , cimb, RHB, UOB Kay Hian , Morgan Stanley Merrill lynch and DBS Vickers . 3) Most Analysts downgrade to hold with no buy ratings meaning shares will have downward pressure coming days . 4) TA wise , HA showing negative down trend with Long red candle representing huge selling pressure . 5) overall negative environment as government is trying to send a message about gambling with an increase in Levy for Singaporean. $50 means singaporean may consider alternative such as Genting highland or overseas IR such as those new ones in Jeju, Korea for example. Japan is also opening new IRs which will attract China gamblers as its nearer to travel to Japan . Note that a better analysis will be available once we know what are Genting plans on raising funds in the Money Markets as we will be then able to more accurately calculate their finance cost . The non gaming component is usually subsidised by the profit from gaming component so we can considered the profit contribution as negligible . Overall it will benefit the Singapore economy as the money will create jobs across various industries and the 7% increase in tax levied will be of course the icing on the cake. However , it cannot be taken for granted that tourist number may increase coming into Singapore and that?s a big IF. What I do know is that the Singapore is the big winner while it?s cloudy skies ahead for Genting Singapore . MBS will also benefit more as they get to increase their game to plot ratio compared to Genting . Hence , I suggest investors to wait for clearer skies before putting their monies back in to Genting again . kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 13:49) Posted: All that is said, the price could be stabalizing at $1.20, so when do you think you should buy?
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Trader130 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 15:37        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If GS can not get license best Loh .. can focus on local expansion in future 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 runaway      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 15:19) Posted: MBS and GS have a very different set of clientele. The former is rich and of higher social status, the latter is the men in the street, many are poor gamblers hoping for a miracle. There is no comparison. MBS has a greater global presence and can attract more and quality high rollers. By quality, I mean those who can afford to lose and pay up, not the chao-kuan gamblers. If you want to choose between the two, MBS is definitely a better bet.
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runaway Senior	06-Apr-2019 15:19        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	MBS and GS have a very different set of clientele. The former is rich and of higher social status, the latter is the men in the street, many are poor gamblers hoping for a miracle. There is no comparison. MBS has a greater global presence and can attract more and quality high rollers. By quality, I mean those who can afford to lose and pay up, not the chao-kuan gamblers. If you want to choose between the two, MBS is definitely a better bet.
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Trader130 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 14:47        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is only time to buy when price went down ... When goes up, a lot , u want buy meh ? Same as shorting down so much , u still want short meh? Haha do not play with fire 🤣 bullets restricted 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲 Trader130      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 14:44) Posted: If Monday GS goes up, then I Guess stabilise Liao 🤣 Trader130      ( Date: 05-Apr-2019 18:03) Posted: Really ah .. I see it at accumulating mode for genuine investors hahah 🤣 🤣 🤣 u wait .... once ready u know 👌
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Trader130 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 14:44        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If Monday GS goes up, then I Guess stabilise Liao 🤣 Trader130      ( Date: 05-Apr-2019 18:03) Posted: Really ah .. I see it at accumulating mode for genuine investors hahah 🤣 🤣 🤣 u wait .... once ready u know 👌 lailai      ( Date: 05-Apr-2019 16:50) Posted: Tdy is technical rebound. Ytd plunged 10c, today rebounds 1-1.5 c at current price.  U say good or not? Currently, seems like still not many want to support rebound even got many analysts hv positive tp. Guessing they are waiting for it to plunge further b4 going in to support.
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WL123456 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 14:36        WL123456 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I have a short term target of $0.80 for Genting . Reasons as follow : 1) I foresee lower dividend for next few FYs as GS needs to plough money into the new $4.5 billion project . Net cash of sgd3.26bil is insufficient so they will either raise money by issuing rights , bonds or borrowings all of which will incur either financial cost or dilution of shareholders value . 2) institutional investors might bail out in view diminishing margin of return both dividend and stock value wise . They include Phillips, Ocbc , cimb, RHB, UOB Kay Hian , Morgan Stanley Merrill lynch and DBS Vickers . 3) Most Analysts downgrade to hold with no buy ratings meaning shares will have downward pressure coming days . 4) TA wise , HA showing negative down trend with Long red candle representing huge selling pressure . 5) overall negative environment as government is trying to send a message about gambling with an increase in Levy for Singaporean. $50 means singaporean may consider alternative such as Genting highland or overseas IR such as those new ones in Jeju, Korea for example. Japan is also opening new IRs which will attract China gamblers as its nearer to travel to Japan . Note that a better analysis will be available once we know what are Genting plans on raising funds in the Money Markets as we will be then able to more accurately calculate their finance cost . The non gaming component is usually subsidised by the profit from gaming component so we can considered the profit contribution as negligible . Overall it will benefit the Singapore economy as the money will create jobs across various industries and the 7% increase in tax levied will be of course the icing on the cake. However , it cannot be taken for granted that tourist number may increase coming into Singapore and that?s a big IF. What I do know is that the Singapore is the big winner while it?s cloudy skies ahead for Genting Singapore . MBS will also benefit more as they get to increase their game to plot ratio compared to Genting . Hence , I suggest investors to wait for clearer skies before putting their monies back in to Genting again . kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 13:49) Posted: All that is said, the price could be stabalizing at $1.20, so when do you think you should buy? WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 02:24) Posted: Bro I share some of my opinion with you : 4.5 billion means must have net cash profit of 456million sgd profit a year (taking into consideration inflation rate of 1.35%) to cover cost . During this period , casinos will be opening in Japan and a few other Asian countries . Currently the full year net profit for Genting is $755.4mil. Based on this amount , more than half of the profit will be used to cover the annual 456mil invested . Don?t forget that the 7% increase in taxation will further deteriorate Genting Singapore?s earning. Genting currently has a net cash position of $3.26 billion and therefore would most likely go for fund and rise the necessary monies for the 4.5billion investment . Therefore she will incurred finance cost or dilute shareholders by issuing rights . Whether Genting will get more visitor is anybody?s guess at a time where completion for gamblers heats up in Asia including japan new casino allowing IR in Japan. I don?t have to the time to crunch all the numbers and projections yet but If I am an investor looking at Genting , I will most likely avoid it until the skies are clear . One thing for certain is the dividend yield will drop and pressure on profits will rise . The clear winner here is the Singapore?s government which is why I say wait for price to stabilise first before making a move
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Trader130 Supreme	06-Apr-2019 14:32        Trader130 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	👍 GAP up Tilll 1.20 then stabilise  kandinsky      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 13:49) Posted: All that is said, the price could be stabalizing at $1.20, so when do you think you should buy? WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 02:24) Posted: Bro I share some of my opinion with you : 4.5 billion means must have net cash profit of 456million sgd profit a year (taking into consideration inflation rate of 1.35%) to cover cost . During this period , casinos will be opening in Japan and a few other Asian countries . Currently the full year net profit for Genting is $755.4mil. Based on this amount , more than half of the profit will be used to cover the annual 456mil invested . Don?t forget that the 7% increase in taxation will further deteriorate Genting Singapore?s earning. Genting currently has a net cash position of $3.26 billion and therefore would most likely go for fund and rise the necessary monies for the 4.5billion investment . Therefore she will incurred finance cost or dilute shareholders by issuing rights . Whether Genting will get more visitor is anybody?s guess at a time where completion for gamblers heats up in Asia including japan new casino allowing IR in Japan. I don?t have to the time to crunch all the numbers and projections yet but If I am an investor looking at Genting , I will most likely avoid it until the skies are clear . One thing for certain is the dividend yield will drop and pressure on profits will rise . The clear winner here is the Singapore?s government which is why I say wait for price to stabilise first before making a move
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kandinsky Master	06-Apr-2019 13:49        kandinsky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All that is said, the price could be stabalizing at $1.20, so when do you think you should buy? WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 02:24) Posted: Bro I share some of my opinion with you : 4.5 billion means must have net cash profit of 456million sgd profit a year (taking into consideration inflation rate of 1.35%) to cover cost . During this period , casinos will be opening in Japan and a few other Asian countries . Currently the full year net profit for Genting is $755.4mil. Based on this amount , more than half of the profit will be used to cover the annual 456mil invested . Don?t forget that the 7% increase in taxation will further deteriorate Genting Singapore?s earning. Genting currently has a net cash position of $3.26 billion and therefore would most likely go for fund and rise the necessary monies for the 4.5billion investment . Therefore she will incurred finance cost or dilute shareholders by issuing rights . Whether Genting will get more visitor is anybody?s guess at a time where completion for gamblers heats up in Asia including japan new casino allowing IR in Japan. I don?t have to the time to crunch all the numbers and projections yet but If I am an investor looking at Genting , I will most likely avoid it until the skies are clear . One thing for certain is the dividend yield will drop and pressure on profits will rise . The clear winner here is the Singapore?s government which is why I say wait for price to stabilise first before making a move . SgYuan      ( Date: 05-Apr-2019 11:09) Posted: 5m chart punch thr 15m chart - px swing from low to upper 96 to 99.5 - block @ upper - bollinger 96 98 100 - if cannot punch thr fall back to mid @98 mini ew w0 96 w1?99.5 w2?... w1 ?3.5 w2 ?2 tgt 97.5 dn 61.8% - this must be supported else wave c dn continue - px cannot touch 96 break wave c continue wave c tgt 925
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SgYuan Supreme	06-Apr-2019 12:13        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	thank for sharing. WL123456      ( Date: 06-Apr-2019 02:24) Posted: Bro I share some of my opinion with you : 4.5 billion means must have net cash profit of 456million sgd profit a year (taking into consideration inflation rate of 1.35%) to cover cost . During this period , casinos will be opening in Japan and a few other Asian countries . Currently the full year net profit for Genting is $755.4mil. Based on this amount , more than half of the profit will be used to cover the annual 456mil invested . Don?t forget that the 7% increase in taxation will further deteriorate Genting Singapore?s earning. Genting currently has a net cash position of $3.26 billion and therefore would most likely go for fund and rise the necessary monies for the 4.5billion investment . Therefore she will incurred finance cost or dilute shareholders by issuing rights . Whether Genting will get more visitor is anybody?s guess at a time where completion for gamblers heats up in Asia including japan new casino allowing IR in Japan. I don?t have to the time to crunch all the numbers and projections yet but If I am an investor looking at Genting , I will most likely avoid it until the skies are clear . One thing for certain is the dividend yield will drop and pressure on profits will rise . The clear winner here is the Singapore?s government which is why I say wait for price to stabilise first before making a move . SgYuan      ( Date: 05-Apr-2019 11:09) Posted: 5m chart punch thr 15m chart - px swing from low to upper 96 to 99.5 - block @ upper - bollinger 96 98 100 - if cannot punch thr fall back to mid @98 mini ew w0 96 w1?99.5 w2?... w1 ?3.5 w2 ?2 tgt 97.5 dn 61.8% - this must be supported else wave c dn continue - px cannot touch 96 break wave c continue wave c tgt 925
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