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SuperLuckyCorn Supreme	22-Feb-2018 09:53        SuperLuckyCorn About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just wonder..if those hold long never sold & they never trigger other ppls margin call or others. Then when those SHORTs cover...they may not be able to make tons of money, they may even lose $$$$, if they are slow shortists. Bcos as they cover, the price will go up, everything reverse... Shortists..need to cover fast, slow shortists will suffer. When some see they cover fast, some will cover together & make the slow shortists \(+_+)/ This is especially true for Big shortists that try to move the price. Then we have to compete " Firing Power" , " Holding Power" & " Management Skills & Luck" Not going to sell them cheap, but will buy cheap from them. Cheers!!! \(^_^)/\(^_^)/\(^_^)/\(^_^)/\(^_^)/   wavehunter      ( Date: 22-Feb-2018 09:46) Posted: All those SHORTs he has been doing at 3.42 down to 3.37... he can today slowly cover and make tons of money.
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wavehunter Supreme	22-Feb-2018 09:46        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All those SHORTs he has been doing at 3.42 down to 3.37... he can today slowly cover and make tons of money.
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allent Master	22-Feb-2018 09:44        allent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The 2017 annual report shows north americans and europeans each own about 10% of the stock Luzern      ( Date: 22-Feb-2018 09:34) Posted: .... I believe it' s simply funds repositioning, and some shortists joining in the fun to make some money. Luzern      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 10:10) Posted: This down trend, could be partly driven by the increasing US Bond rate and artificially low US Dollar exchange rate besides the 4th Telco thingy.    This makes Singtel as a dividend play less attractive.
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MichaelSchenker Master	22-Feb-2018 09:42        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Listen to your call on Sembmarine, that everything is right, that it will rally? LOL...! qtrinity      ( Date: 22-Feb-2018 09:04) Posted: Tsk tsk, why you all dont want to listen to comments that are real... SuperLuckyCorn      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 09:41) Posted: May be one dump, the other pump. We follow General MichaelSchenker' s Strategy. Most important need to know ur own risk level & what suit u best.
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SuperLuckyCorn Supreme	22-Feb-2018 09:42        SuperLuckyCorn About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No lah, don' t know who to listen. Also don' t know when it will go up or down. But Happy with 3~5cts swing. Treat is as entertainment...Hope to touch/hit the bad bad monkeys backside. Previously, during the " crisis" ..bought all the way to 2.8x range. So now far better than b4, and we have more ammo to ration & as long as it fluctuate 3 to 5ct, we will gain in long run,. In fact putting all in Banks or properties scare us even more.. We will allocate a bit bit profit for charities, hope that will blessed all of us here. Today, 7th day of CNY, Birthday for Everyone. Happy Birthday to all, May all Huat Big Big. \(^_^)/\(^_^)/   qtrinity      ( Date: 22-Feb-2018 09:04) Posted: Tsk tsk, why you all dont want to listen to comments that are real... SuperLuckyCorn      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 09:41) Posted: May be one dump, the other pump. We follow General MichaelSchenker' s Strategy. Most important need to know ur own risk level & what suit u best.
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Luzern Supreme	22-Feb-2018 09:34        Luzern About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "9"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	.... I believe it' s simply funds repositioning, and some shortists joining in the fun to make some money. Luzern      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 10:10) Posted: This down trend, could be partly driven by the increasing US Bond rate and artificially low US Dollar exchange rate besides the 4th Telco thingy.    This makes Singtel as a dividend play less attractive.
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destinykraze Elite	22-Feb-2018 09:32        destinykraze About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Reality is only a matter of perception"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	it' s still good news for onlookers. Just wait until it hits your target price. FATABA      ( Date: 22-Feb-2018 09:15) Posted: Singtel is a large vol counter .....to move it need large vol buy and sell or some special news. The recent drop can be due to scare of the 4th telco.and result ...capitalising on this a BB is pushing it down. Recent CEO buy ( of course she cant buy miliions but within her own means) does speak volume on the value of Singtel stock ( who knows better the actual value and future then the current ceo ....she is also in this business for long time) Having say that ...the BB who is shorting it is also worry...of ?  ( when the value gets very attractive ...fund might come in any time /like recent few days and scoop some ) or nearing its coming end Mar full yr result ....DYODD if you think that SIngtel is a value stock for investment ( not trading ) Happy investing.
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FATABA Supreme	22-Feb-2018 09:15        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Singtel is a large vol counter .....to move it need large vol buy and sell or some special news. The recent drop can be due to scare of the 4th telco.and result ...capitalising on this a BB is pushing it down. Recent CEO buy ( of course she cant buy miliions but within her own means) does speak volume on the value of Singtel stock ( who knows better the actual value and future then the current ceo ....she is also in this business for long time) Having say that ...the BB who is shorting it is also worry...of ?  ( when the value gets very attractive ...fund might come in any time /like recent few days and scoop some ) or nearing its coming end Mar full yr result ....DYODD if you think that SIngtel is a value stock for investment ( not trading ) Happy investing.
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qtrinity Senior	22-Feb-2018 09:04        qtrinity About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 3  Alert Admin	Tsk tsk, why you all dont want to listen to comments that are real... SuperLuckyCorn      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 09:41) Posted: May be one dump, the other pump. We follow General MichaelSchenker' s Strategy. Most important need to know ur own risk level & what suit u best.   qtrinity      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 09:26) Posted: Yup, its a bait and trap. Long term investors should not buy now.  Wait for $3.28 10 cents more
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allent Master	22-Feb-2018 09:01        allent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I believe it is a group shorting since at least 2016 wavehunter      ( Date: 22-Feb-2018 08:56) Posted: First he collected his SHORTs. Then he starts pushing the price down. Sigh...
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wavehunter Supreme	22-Feb-2018 08:56        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	First he collected his SHORTs. Then he starts pushing the price down. Sigh...
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leongyan Master	22-Feb-2018 08:48        leongyan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That time will come .. just need to hang on.. everyone waited next long long for Netlink dividend also and it came to pass Meanwhile focus on other more liquid blue chips to make money wavehunter      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 17:34) Posted: Not good enough. He must buy 50m shares. Or better still, make an announcement that in 2018, SingTel will pay a special dividend of 30 cts on top of their usual dividends. This type of announcement will mean an immediate Siew Kang for all shortists...furry or otherwise... and  a BUY for all funds, institutions, investors and traders...all will hampalang come out to buy.   fightingdragons      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 17:22) Posted: Singtel Group CEO bought 150k shares at 3.36 and 3.38 on 13 and 14 Feb according to Spiking. So is that a good sign ?
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wavehunter Supreme	22-Feb-2018 08:44        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SGX Shortselling Data...........yesterday.......3402.1 lots were shorts.
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allent Master	22-Feb-2018 08:39        allent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SGX should publish cumulative outstanding short volume and disclose the owner when its position is more than 5% of the stock.
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MichaelSchenker Master	21-Feb-2018 20:05        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	By right, if he is indeed shorting, every tranche he sells, he would calculate it such that it would down 1 pip. If not why hold back, he got more work to do by by breaking into smaller tranches. Why Sell last minute? He already knew tomorrow sure open Red? Well, if he wants, he can always Sell on opening, usually not on closing. Anyway, to each his own interpretations. If he has the shares to Sell, that means he is not shorting.   destinykraze      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 19:53) Posted: That is not an optimal way to short. if im the BB shortist, I would try to short huge volume at high prices. e.g $3.7. Then slow down at lower prices. So when I need to cover back the shares I shorted, I gain way more profit. E.g 100m shorted at 3.7, 10m @3.6, 10m @ 3.5m, [email protected], then my avg shorted price would be around $3.60. When i cover back at e.g $3. I make $0.60 per share. If i short heavily(10m) at every level, it would result in significantly lower profit. Avg short price $3.35- Cover back price $3= $0.35. Figures are not 100% accurate, just to illustrate only.  MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 19:42) Posted: If a BB has a disposal of a billion dollars to short, he would probably throw it down and fulfil all Buy orders from 3.39 all the way down to possibly 3.25? Easily possible? The fact(or hint), as shown, he sells in tranches shows that he is still trying to preserve the Bid/Ask price. What is his motivation, then
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allent Master	21-Feb-2018 19:54        allent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It could mean that he is building up his short positions to close later at much lower prices MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 19:42) Posted: If a BB has a disposal of a billion dollars to short, he would probably throw it down and fulfil all Buy orders from 3.39 all the way down to possibly 3.25? Easily possible? The fact(or hint), as shown, he sells in tranches shows that he is still trying to preserve the Bid/Ask price. What is his motivation, then? destinykraze      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 18:59) Posted: You are talking about retail shortists. BBs can short $100m-billions of dollars. They do not act like the way you mentioned. E.g Comfortdelgro crazy shorts at $2.8. few hundred millions in 1-2 months. another few hundred million at $2.5 for 2-3 months
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destinykraze Elite	21-Feb-2018 19:53        destinykraze About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Reality is only a matter of perception"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That is not an optimal way to short. if im the BB shortist, I would try to short huge volume at high prices. e.g $3.7. Then slow down at lower prices. So when I need to cover back the shares I shorted, I gain way more profit. E.g 100m shorted at 3.7, 10m @3.6, 10m @ 3.5m, [email protected], then my avg shorted price would be around $3.60. When i cover back at e.g $3. I make $0.60 per share. If i short heavily(10m) at every level, it would result in significantly lower profit. Avg short price $3.35- Cover back price $3= $0.35. Figures are not 100% accurate, just to illustrate only.  MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 19:42) Posted: If a BB has a disposal of a billion dollars to short, he would probably throw it down and fulfil all Buy orders from 3.39 all the way down to possibly 3.25? Easily possible? The fact(or hint), as shown, he sells in tranches shows that he is still trying to preserve the Bid/Ask price. What is his motivation, then? destinykraze      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 18:59) Posted: You are talking about retail shortists. BBs can short $100m-billions of dollars. They do not act like the way you mentioned. E.g Comfortdelgro crazy shorts at $2.8. few hundred millions in 1-2 months. another few hundred million at $2.5 for 2-3 months
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MichaelSchenker Master	21-Feb-2018 19:42        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If a BB has a disposal of a billion dollars to short, he would probably throw it down and fulfil all Buy orders from 3.39 all the way down to possibly 3.25? Easily possible? The fact(or hint), as shown, he sells in tranches shows that he is still trying to preserve the Bid/Ask price. What is his motivation, then? destinykraze      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 18:59) Posted: You are talking about retail shortists. BBs can short $100m-billions of dollars. They do not act like the way you mentioned. E.g Comfortdelgro crazy shorts at $2.8. few hundred millions in 1-2 months. another few hundred million at $2.5 for 2-3 months. MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 18:22) Posted: Based on the data contributed by bro Wave, and assuming the big-handed Seller is the same guy, it does not appear that he is a short Seller.  1) He could easily Sell a few million shares at once and immediately cause the counter to lose a few pips, thereby creating a ripple effect for many, especially those with auto cut-loss and margin calls.  2) Normally he will not Sell big at the last minute. Short selling as in he does not own the scrips, thereby unnecessary incurring overnight costs. Also, if the next day open high, he win kaput! Short sellers normally try to cover towards end of the day. 3) Notice he sells in Bite-size tranches, taking care not to cause a immediate dip in price. A short seller ultimate aim is to bring down the price as quickly as possible. Just saying.......opinion only. We may not even know the true scenario
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destinykraze Elite	21-Feb-2018 19:02        destinykraze About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Reality is only a matter of perception"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Either way, Retail shortists would have no effects on moving Singtel' s current price. MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 18:22) Posted: Based on the data contributed by bro Wave, and assuming the big-handed Seller is the same guy, it does not appear that he is a short Seller.  1) He could easily Sell a few million shares at once and immediately cause the counter to lose a few pips, thereby creating a ripple effect for many, especially those with auto cut-loss and margin calls.  2) Normally he will not Sell big at the last minute. Short selling as in he does not own the scrips, thereby unnecessary incurring overnight costs. Also, if the next day open high, he win kaput! Short sellers normally try to cover towards end of the day. 3) Notice he sells in Bite-size tranches, taking care not to cause a immediate dip in price. A short seller ultimate aim is to bring down the price as quickly as possible. Just saying.......opinion only. We may not even know the true scenario. allent      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 17:46) Posted: IMO, he will try very hard to push the price to 3. Afterall, telco sector assets are becoming commodities due to govt regulation to reduce their network inter connection charges and introduction of competitions. But many investors still think of their value based on the past good time.
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destinykraze Elite	21-Feb-2018 18:59        destinykraze About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Reality is only a matter of perception"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are talking about retail shortists. BBs can short $100m-billions of dollars. They do not act like the way you mentioned. E.g Comfortdelgro crazy shorts at $2.8. few hundred millions in 1-2 months. another few hundred million at $2.5 for 2-3 months. MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 18:22) Posted: Based on the data contributed by bro Wave, and assuming the big-handed Seller is the same guy, it does not appear that he is a short Seller.  1) He could easily Sell a few million shares at once and immediately cause the counter to lose a few pips, thereby creating a ripple effect for many, especially those with auto cut-loss and margin calls.  2) Normally he will not Sell big at the last minute. Short selling as in he does not own the scrips, thereby unnecessary incurring overnight costs. Also, if the next day open high, he win kaput! Short sellers normally try to cover towards end of the day. 3) Notice he sells in Bite-size tranches, taking care not to cause a immediate dip in price. A short seller ultimate aim is to bring down the price as quickly as possible. Just saying.......opinion only. We may not even know the true scenario. allent      ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 17:46) Posted: IMO, he will try very hard to push the price to 3. Afterall, telco sector assets are becoming commodities due to govt regulation to reduce their network inter connection charges and introduction of competitions. But many investors still think of their value based on the past good time.
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