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04-May-2017 20:41
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 20:41
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Nikkei (Japan)
Jun 1, 2012 : 8440 pts May 2, 2017 : 19445 pts Nikkei is up an astounding +130% in 5 years ! World Markets All Bubbled Up : 1. For some corrections or 2. If not, a Big Crash - 20 to - 50% off their Peaks and Highs
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HazardKoh
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04-May-2017 20:40
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Bought near low http://www.sharejunction.com/sharejunction/listMessage.htm?topicId=15676& recordCount=120   Sold near high http://www.sharejunction.com/sharejunction/listMessage.htm?topicId=16839& recordCount=40
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famouspinky
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04-May-2017 20:33
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 20:25
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SEOUL (AFP) - North Korea warned on Monday (May 1) that it will carry out a nuclear test "at any time and at any location" set by its leadership, in the latest rhetoric to fuel jitters in the region.
It is almost a sure thing - the 6th Nuclear Bomb Test 1. Kim is encouraged by Trump " empty armarda threats " 2. Kim is angered by China's "turning of its back against North Korea" when they need them most. Is this an act of a friend , Kim must be thinking . Is this an act of an ally ? By conducting the 6th Nuclear Bomb Test, Kim is hoping for that better attention from China, as well as serving as a " bargaining chip " And only Nuclear Prowess can make Kim more "assured & secured" (less insecure)
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risktaker
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04-May-2017 20:21
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" A Nightmarish Picture For Iron Ore Prices" Has Emerged, Axiom Warns 
by  Tyler Durden
May 4, 2017 7:40 AM
As noted earlier, while European stocks and US equity  markets have ignored  the commodity crash in China, which in addition to iron ore plunging limit down, also saw rubber tumble 7% lower, and steel rebar, coke, coking coal plunge over 6% ...  
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... Axiom' s Gordon Johnson warns (as we did a month ago) that the worst is yet to come, and in fact, the " backdrop of near-record/record iron ore inventories and aggressive domestic and seaborne iron ore supply,  paints a nightmarish picture for iron ore prices over the coming months." * * *  
 
Here are the choice excerpts from his overnight note " Why We Feel Iron Ore Prices Are Slated For a Sharp N-Term Fall (Even From Here) & Why Iron Ore Stocks (FMG RIO CLF X) Are Attractive Shorts Right Now" SUMMING THE BELOW ANALYSIS UP:  With China&rsquo s April PMIs disappointing, suggesting China&rsquo s tightening measures are beginning to take hold (i.e., demand for steel in China is now weakening), we expect steel supply in China to begin to moderate imminently stated differently, this suggests iron ore demand is in the process of waning, which, against a backdrop of near-record/record iron ore inventories and aggressive domestic and seaborne iron ore supply,  paints a nightmarish picture for iron ore prices over the coming months. On this trend, we would be adding to shorts in FMG, CLF, RIO, and X. SO WHY THE IRON ORE PRICE PESSIMISM & CONFIDENCE ON THE FMG, RIO, CLF, and X SHORTS?:  We believe, when looking at the data,  iron ore prices are on the precipice of a &ldquo spectacular decline&rdquo .  As detailed below, iron ore imports into China were up 11.4% y/y to 95.6mt in March, and YTD were up 12.2% y/y to 271mt. In our view, due to what is expected to be a 1%-2%% fall in y/y crude steel production in China in 2017, which is below the +1.04% y/y growth seen in 2016, we believe elevated imports through March point to continued inventory build, as well as a lack of seaborne-supply-discipline to falling iron ore prices (iron ore prices fell 11.9% through March). Exhibit 1: Despite Waning Crude Steel Output in China, Import  Growth Y/Y is Strong than Ever  ![]() Source: General Customs Administration, Axiom Capital Research. Furthermore, moving to the domestic production of iron ore in China this year, it&rsquo s clear that momentum is picking up in a very rapid manner (a troubling trend if you&rsquo re an iron ore bull). That is, of the 266 domestic Chinese iron ore mines Mysteel tracks, capacity utilization has risen from 62% as of mid-April 2016, to 69.5% as of mid-April 2017 stated differently, domestic iron ore production is up 21.4% y/y to 45.6mt YTD. This stellar growth, we believe, is a byproduct of higher prices driven, we believe, not by fundamentals, but rather the &ldquo financialization&rdquo of the futures trading market in bulk commodity materials in China (where traders have to constantly speculate, in the overnight markets, on the daily directional shifts in commodity prices &ndash due to the duration mismatch in assets vs. liabilities in the ~$4tn off-balance-sheet Wealth Management Products market).  Yet, with the cash cost of iron ore production in China at ~$57.8/mt, until prices fall below this level, we would expect the &ldquo rising tide&rdquo of supply to continue to be a headache for the iron ore bulls. Exhibit 2: Domestic China Iron Ore Supply is Growing Sharply Despite  Record Inventories and Record Seaborne Imports  ![]() Source: Mysteel.net, Axiom Capital Research. WHAT ABOUT INVENTORIES?  In addition to the above, as can be seen in Exhibits 3-4 below, inventories at both the Chinese ports and steel mills are at/near record highs. That is, looking first to major Chinese ports&rsquo iron ore inventories, we note that inventory has increased by 15% thus far this year, and is 33% higher than at the same time last year in fact, there is enough iron ore inventory sitting at the ports in China to construct 13,000 of Eiffel towers (that&rsquo s a hell of a lot of iron ore). Furthermore, while they have come down off their peaks experienced this year, steel mills&rsquo iron ore inventories in China are also still high when compared to historical levels. Yet, despite these high inventory levels, iron ore prices remain above our $40/mt target for April in short, we believe this dynamic is a byproduct of both: (a) stellar margins for steel mills earlier this year, pushing them to prefer higher-grade iron ore in the face of higher coking coal prices, and (b) the aforementioned preference for higher-grade iron ore, in the face of bloated coking coal prices, enabling elevated production rates at Chinese steel mills. However, based on the sharp fall in Chinese steel mill profitability (discussed below), we believe both of these dynamics have come to an abrupt end (a problem if you are an iron ore bull).  Exhibit 3: Chinese Ports&rsquo Iron Ore Inventory is Sitting Near  Record Highs ![]() Source: Shanghai Steelhome, Steel Business Briefing, Axiom Capital Research. Exhibit 4: While Off Their Highs, Days of Imported Iron Ore Inventory  at China&rsquo s Steel Mills Remain High on a Relative Basis ![]() Source: Mysteel.net, Axiom Capital Research. AND SPREADS?  Moving on to price trends, we note that steel prices in China have been in sharp correction territory for some time now and, with Cyclone Debbie in Australia pushing coking coal prices higher, steel mill profit margins have deteriorated. This, in turn, caused a shift in approach from the steel mills in China. More specifically, instead of opting for the higher-grade version of iron ore, in an effort to shift costs lower, mills in China instead moved toward the lower-end version of iron ore (due to its ready supply at both the ports, and at the domestic mills in China) &ndash this trend, which remains intact today (and is an outsized, yet underappreciated, in our view, risk to seaborne iron ore prices), is evidenced by the sharp fall in the premium of 62% Fe grade iron ore when compared to 58% Fe grade iron ore (see Exhibit 6). Exhibit 5: China&rsquo s Blast Furnaces&rsquo Cash Margins Have Come Down  Considerably From the Highs ![]() Source: Bloomberg, Axiom Capital Research. Exhibit 6: High-Grade Iron Ore Premium is in Full  Correction Mode ![]() Source: Metal Bulletin, Beijing CUSTEEL E-commerce Co., Axiom Capital Research. CONCLUSION:  With the above as a backdrop, as we have warned for some time now, the recent correction in steel prices in China should come as no surprise. Why? Well, as detailed below (Exhibit 7), with China continuing to pump out record levels of crude steel output (i.e., supply), despite an aggressive push by the PBoC to clamp down on property speculation, as well as elevated interbank lending rates (suggesting liquidity has tightened) &ndash Exhibit 8 &ndash it seems, currently, supply is outstripping demand (a recipe for disaster for prices). Furthermore, as detailed below in Exhibit 9, given expectations of steel demand coming into 2017 in China were elevated (on expectations of a Trump-driven rally, as well as reflation in China), aggressive inventory building defined the better part of C1Q17 in China. Consequently, with China&rsquo s April PMIs disappointing, suggesting China&rsquo s tightening measures are beginning to take hold (i.e., demand for steel in China is now weakening), we expect steel supply in China to begin to moderate imminently   stated differently, this suggests iron ore demand is in the process of waning, which, against a backdrop of near-record/record iron ore inventories and aggressive domestic and seaborne iron ore output, paints a nightmarish picture for prices over the coming months. On this, we would be adding to shorts in FMG, CLF, RIO, and X. Exhibit 7: CISA Members' Daily Crude Steel Output ![]() Source: China Iron & Steel Association (CISA), Axiom Capital Research.   Exhibit 8: Interbank Lending Rates in China Have Moved Structurally  Higher&hellip Suggesting PBoC Tightening is &ldquo On the Menu&rdquo ![]() Source: Bloomberg. |
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halleluyah
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04-May-2017 20:19
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hope u aredi short big big if not wated the chance...lol
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 20:04
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BiST 100 (TURKEY)
May 25, 2012 : 54809 pts May 4, 2017 : 93729 pts Turkey is up an astounding +71% in 5 years ! |
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 19:56
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you are a very intelligent investor !
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 19:54
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DAX (Frankfurt) :
Jun 1, 2012 : 6050 May 4, 2012 : 12642 DAX is up an even more astounding : More than 108% in 5 years !
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jeremyow
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04-May-2017 19:50
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Lol! =)
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HazardKoh
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04-May-2017 19:48
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One thing for sure.. if u buy low ie: around 52 weeks low, the chance of u earning profit is > if u buy high ie: around  52 weeks high. When STI was trading around 2800+,  u dun buy. When STI is trading 3200+ , then u buy is not worth. First, the chance of u earning profit is much much lesser and even if u earn, the profit will be much lesser than when you bought at 2800+. Next the chance of u losing  $$$  is higher and the chance of u losing more $$$ than if u buy at 2800+ is much higher. So for me, I rather wait until the STI goes below 3000, then i consider buying. Now I would sell my shares and earn a profit which i did recently. My own experience: I bought lian beng from 42 to 50 cents  when STI was trading below 3000 near 52 weeks low.  I sold Lian Beng when it went up to 62 cents recently when STI is trading near 52 weeks high. Same for many other shares...    
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ganyun
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04-May-2017 19:46
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2017 Oct Crash | ||||
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 19:44
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Look at Greece , still in financial deep s h it after major bailouts years ago. Note : years ago and not yet recovered economically
May 2, 2017 Greece Agrees to Tighten Belt Again in Return for Further Bailout Funds |
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famouspinky
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04-May-2017 19:40
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Wondering who still dare to long at these levels.
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huatahrr
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04-May-2017 19:37
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Davidson predicted market crash in 2016, please double check the date before quoting his words
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destinykraze
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04-May-2017 19:32
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Crashing the market roof! |
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famouspinky
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04-May-2017 19:29
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Getting more and more dangerous ea day | ||||
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huangyuanhe
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04-May-2017 19:28
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4 Major Ingredients for a Crash :
1. War & Conflicts (North Korea Crisis, South China Sea Dispute) 2. Dow & Europe Indices rising and keep on rising at All Time Record Breaking Peaks, without not much healthy corrections 3. Too much money into Tech companies and the loss of "traditional jobs in a massive scale" replaced by tech industries that offer fewer jobs. Only a few highly paid at this new food chain and a huge portion losing their jobs due to tech revolutions. 4. China Biggest Propery Bubble and Debts Crisis Now, the propert prices of 2nd tier cities in China already matched and surpassed those 1st tier in developed countries. E.g. A 100 sq m property in China costs about $ 1 mil in Guangzhou vs $800K in Toronto. Basis on per capita income Guangzhou vs Toronto : It takes 80 to 100 years for a GZ worker to fully paid the house loans vs 30 to 40 years for a Toronto worker. |
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Alvin2042
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04-May-2017 19:22
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U self talking in one thread not enough? Open so many threads hogging the headlines...scare no people see?
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