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investshare Supreme	15-Feb-2017 07:30        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So the shares bought back will back to market ...
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MichaelSchenker Master	15-Feb-2017 07:20        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Indeed....evil management. I' m not surprised if they are the target for Glaucus one fine day. That will be sweet revenge! sheerluck      ( Date: 15-Feb-2017 00:52) Posted: Just as I guessed.   Company awarded shares back to themselves.   sheerluck      ( Date: 22-Nov-2016 02:17) Posted: First time see this way to rewards shareholders.   But actually long term wise major shareholder who are company executive benefits in the end.   Why? If the company give out that $7.2mil as dividend, then each share gets 1.07cts.   So for 100lots, div payout is $1070 giving a total of $21,070 (so comparing with the $20,391 from sharebuyback, this one slightly more " exciting" ?).   So this sharebuyback really doesn' t benefit everyone (including the major shareholder which then make this whole scheme looks fair) much in terms of monetary values.   For this way to reward shareholder you lose 3.4% holding for a net gain of only $391.  The div method is better becos you keep all your shares and get $1070. Now what happen to those shares being bought back?   Ended up as company tresuary shares and who can benefit from them?   Every quarter and year-end are oppounity to rewards mgmt for good performance.   They can get back that 3.4% shares or more without spending a penny.   So they can accelerate the stake up.   WHy I say accelerate?   They dilute you anyway through the share award.   But taking away some of your share at the same time just make it faster. On price action, the buyback can be more deceiving becos many time peole don' t read announcement carefully and they can read it as " buy back your share @31.5cts" .   So ended up shooting the price to 30.5-31cts before retracting quickly so don' t be surprise if that happens and don' t be surprise that it was done by a bunch of people who don' t spend enough time reading annonucement.   Anyway if it does happen, market will quickly take advantages of them. Anyway, if you vote against this, company might keep the monies and dont give out, you lan lan.   Unless you are major enough to call the shot, you should request company to just give that $7.2 mil as dividend.   Simple and straightaway.   When company come out with such " scheme" , there are reasons for it.   But too bad, most probably ended up having to accept their " scheme" . Scheming or am I dreaming? DYDD.
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sheerluck Supreme	15-Feb-2017 00:52        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Just as I guessed.   Company awarded shares back to themselves.   sheerluck      ( Date: 22-Nov-2016 02:17) Posted: First time see this way to rewards shareholders.   But actually long term wise major shareholder who are company executive benefits in the end.   Why? If the company give out that $7.2mil as dividend, then each share gets 1.07cts.   So for 100lots, div payout is $1070 giving a total of $21,070 (so comparing with the $20,391 from sharebuyback, this one slightly more " exciting" ?).   So this sharebuyback really doesn' t benefit everyone (including the major shareholder which then make this whole scheme looks fair) much in terms of monetary values.   For this way to reward shareholder you lose 3.4% holding for a net gain of only $391.  The div method is better becos you keep all your shares and get $1070. Now what happen to those shares being bought back?   Ended up as company tresuary shares and who can benefit from them?   Every quarter and year-end are oppounity to rewards mgmt for good performance.   They can get back that 3.4% shares or more without spending a penny.   So they can accelerate the stake up.   WHy I say accelerate?   They dilute you anyway through the share award.   But taking away some of your share at the same time just make it faster. On price action, the buyback can be more deceiving becos many time peole don' t read announcement carefully and they can read it as " buy back your share @31.5cts" .   So ended up shooting the price to 30.5-31cts before retracting quickly so don' t be surprise if that happens and don' t be surprise that it was done by a bunch of people who don' t spend enough time reading annonucement.   Anyway if it does happen, market will quickly take advantages of them. Anyway, if you vote against this, company might keep the monies and dont give out, you lan lan.   Unless you are major enough to call the shot, you should request company to just give that $7.2 mil as dividend.   Simple and straightaway.   When company come out with such " scheme" , there are reasons for it.   But too bad, most probably ended up having to accept their " scheme" . Scheming or am I dreaming? DYDD. HazardKoh      ( Date: 22-Nov-2016 00:06) Posted: Assuming you bought 100 lots  at 20 cents ==> $20000 You are allowed to sell to them 3.4% at 31.5 cents ==> 3.4 lots at $1071 So you are left with 96.6 lots. Assume you can sell at 20cents ==> $19320 So total = $20391. ==> Earning of $391 assuming you can sell off at 20 cents. Hardly " exciting" about it..
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HANZXC Member	15-Feb-2017 00:39        HANZXC About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Indeed used for staf shares benefits... http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/DeClout%20Announcement%20-%20Vesting%20of%20Awards%20under%20DeClout%20PSP.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=439217 wonder      ( Date: 31-Jan-2017 10:03) Posted: Fully agreed with all those sharing. Avoid this counter if u are not vested. The EAO's plan was to suck in capital n lock-in those shareholders. The $7million buying of shares, indeed belongs to the company after EAO. That shares will be use for staff shares benefits. In other words, the shares holding in the market remains the same after Ex-EAO. Shares are not cancelled off in this case. Like what Michael was saying: market- is never wrong, this is what the market is willing to pay" Those not vested, avoid this counter pls.
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KopRed75 Veteran	14-Feb-2017 16:12        KopRed75 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am still holding. The price action yesterday and today is a bit weird. Hopefully something good gonna happen.
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beltrance Senior	14-Feb-2017 16:03        beltrance About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Up today on high volume, i will keep an eye on this !
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wonder Member	31-Jan-2017 10:03        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fully agreed with all those sharing. Avoid this counter if u are not vested. The EAO's plan was to suck in capital n lock-in those shareholders. The $7million buying of shares, indeed belongs to the company after EAO. That shares will be use for staff shares benefits. In other words, the shares holding in the market remains the same after Ex-EAO. Shares are not cancelled off in this case. Like what Michael was saying: market- is never wrong, this is what the market is willing to pay" Those not vested, avoid this counter pls.
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solsys Member	31-Jan-2017 04:46        solsys About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don't buy this stock. Their strategy is to aim for your capital (lock-in) by giving some perks like this EAO along the way. Complicated financial engineering when they could have just distributed via dividends. Not vested.
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wonder Member	20-Jan-2017 09:45        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unhappy investors still unloading, price will continue to drop further. Tp will be 0.169
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MichaelSchenker Master	19-Jan-2017 20:51        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DeClout already spent so much money on the EAO, surely there must be an impact on the share price. Definitely the value is  not worth as much as before. (millions already wiped out post-EAO excerise) DeClout is just a small cap catalist listed company. Market is never wrong. Currently, this is what market is willing to pay for DeClout shares. I' m still planning my exit, perhaps on a day when there are extremely good market sentiments. I' ll be happy to cut loss around the 0.195 region if that is even possible at all. Already a thinly traded catalist stock, now made worse by the screwups from it' s management, I' d say DeClout will need a long time before this bad reputation blows over. Unless there are certain key changes on the board. All they ever possess are glib tongues to wriggle out of the wrath of public shareholders. Bros and sis in this forum only form a very minority part as DeClout shareholders, and I certainly hope we are able to bail out without incurring too much losses. Would appreciate if members share their unbiased view how we should all move on..
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wonder Member	19-Jan-2017 17:40        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not really. Share price was down all the way till last min where someone just popped it up.
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mariners Senior	19-Jan-2017 17:32        mariners About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "FA tells me what to buy, TA tells me when to buy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ok lao sai has finish i think, faster than i thought. time to get moving on to it's real worth.
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wonder Member	18-Jan-2017 15:55        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They have nothing to sell, how good can the financial result. Ceo also said he will unlock value, where the value now?
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MichaelSchenker Master	18-Jan-2017 13:54        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why is there a change in this sub-forum? DeClout Rg. What is Rg?
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mariners Senior	18-Jan-2017 13:38        mariners About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "FA tells me what to buy, TA tells me when to buy"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now that this messy EAO is over, next will be their financial statement. Expect it to be good, if Vesmond Wong was telling the truth.
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cheng987 Veteran	18-Jan-2017 13:05        cheng987 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Payment is on 17-01-2017@ above 1700 hours from CDP to bank account.Huat ahh BBbull      ( Date: 17-Jan-2017 11:10) Posted: When is payment? And is it through cheque?
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wonder Member	18-Jan-2017 11:14        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unhappy investors throwing the shares...., confident shaken. Cheap become cheaper
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BBbull Senior	17-Jan-2017 11:10        BBbull About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When is payment? And is it through cheque?
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AttasBoss Elite	17-Jan-2017 09:13        AttasBoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Only sold extra 100 shares total 3500 shares sold to company
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wonder Member	16-Jan-2017 22:12        wonder About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Confidence is key. U think the share may goes back to 20ct where investors cant even make money when company had 7million to distribute. And furthermore no dividends till now since ipo. Sell the shares n play other better counters. This counter only benefits the major shareholders, the mgt n the ceo. Or else will forever stuck here with no returns.
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