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infoshare
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22-Sep-2016 00:01
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Wells Fargo reaches the end of its journeyThe old lesson applies to the bank&rsquo s success: if something seems too good to be true, it probably is There is not much pleasure in banking any more but  John Stumpf  of  Wells Fargoprovided some  Schadenfreude  for his fellow chief executives this week. The Senate banking committee&rsquo s  grilling of Mr Stumpf  about the California bank&rsquo s sham accounts brought the golden banker of the golden state down to size.  
Banks such as Citigroup,  Deutsche Bank,  Bank of America, Barclays and Goldman Sachs have been through the mill since the 2008 financial crisis. Wells Fargo, with its homely approach and uncanny ability to gain loyalty from customers, as supposedly proved by the number of accounts and payment cards that each held, enjoyed the last shining reputation. It is now tarnished by the revelation that Wells Fargo&rsquo s winning ways with customers owed as much to the intense pressure it placed on employees to hawk products as to its friendly culture. Managers pressed &ldquo stores&rdquo (Wells Fargo&rsquo s term for branches) to hit daily targets, leading to the faking of as many as 2m accounts. It has since dismissed 5,300 miscreant staff and been fined $185m.  
If Wells Fargo is not what it promised, what does that say about the banking industry as a whole? Something troubling, I am afraid. One bank looks much like another to most people, and none of them is very appealing. To aficionados, Wells Fargo was the exception. It has an investment bank but did not get subsumed by trading, or lose its shirt on subprime mortgages. Its brush with the 2008 crisis was to  acquire Wachovia  amid the financial turmoil, cleverly gaining itself a nationwide branch network. It remained faithful to the strategy honed at Norwest, the Minnesota bank thatmerged with Wells Fargo in 1998. Mr Stumpf and Dick Kovacevich, his predecessor, learned about neighbourhood retail banking at Norwest and constantly extolled its virtues: it is unglamorous, even boring compared with Wall Street, but it offers stability. Wells Fargo makes me feel nostalgic because it is the end result of how  banks  tried to reboot themselves in the early 1990s, when I first covered them. They were then trying to recover from credit crises in Latin America and US commercial property, particularly in California, and made inadequate returns on capital. They vowed to become more profitable and less cyclical. Person in the NewsThe chief executive made Wells Fargo the biggest bank but now faces scandal, writes Gary Silverman In a way, the financial history of the past quarter century goes back to that moment. One set of banks, such as Deutsche, tried to raise profitability by expanding into investment banking, a higher margin, more exciting business. It worked for a while until the huge financial risks emerged. Another set stuck with retail banking but tried to improve it. Their challenge was that they tended to make decent profits by taking in deposits and offering loans while economies were strong but go on to lose those profits and more when the loans went bad. The cure, they thought, was to diversify away from overreliance on lending. Their customers had to be persuaded to hold not only loans and current accounts, but also credit cards, mortgages, insurance, investment accounts and other financial products. Wells Fargo became the exemplar: its retail customers now have an average of  more than six products  and it gains almost as much revenue from fees and commissions as from interest on loans. Wells Fargo&rsquo s runaway success was always a bit mysterious: other banks tried to match the &ldquo king of cross-sell&rdquo , as Mr Stumpf once called it, but could not. &ldquo If it were easy, everyone would be doing it,&rdquo he  boasted in 2010, promising in its &ldquo Vision and Values&rdquo   booklet, &ldquo We start with what the customers need, not with what we want to sell them.&rdquo That was baloney. Under regulatory scrutiny, the bank found numerous cases of staff opening accounts for customers without telling them, or fooling them into taking credit cards. Even when there was no deceit, employees were pressed to gain bonuses by selling constantly it was more a sales machine than a traditional bank. The old lesson applies: if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Mr Stumpf was suitably contrite under fire at the committee on Tuesday, promising to clean up the mess and emphasising that Wells Fargo has  dropped product sales targets  in its retail bank. The scandal was &ldquo against everything we stand for&rdquo , he pleaded. Well, up to a point. Wells Fargo stood for cross-selling and, if it stops selling, it is left with a strategic hole. That is not only a problem for his bank, but for all those that tried to do the same. The model for making banking like retailing has run aground on the reputational hazard its sales culture created. Banks cannot return to what they did before. The lending business is now even more under stress: as interest rates have fallen to near zero, loan margins have narrowed. Even if they wanted to wind the clock back two decades, the option is gone. Wells Fargo and its rivals must adapt uneasily, like investment banks after the shock of 2008. Thus the expression on Mr Stumpf&rsquo s face as he endured his Senate interrogation: less one of disgrace than puzzlement that the story Wells Fargo&rsquo s bosses told for two decades no longer works. Time for a new one. [email protected] |
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21-Sep-2016 15:46
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Good question.   But I think Moody is rubbish.
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Immortal
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21-Sep-2016 14:32
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BOJ is out of the way now.....once FED says no rate increase, DBS cheong to the sky |
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oceanblue
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21-Sep-2016 14:06
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Recovered somewhat from this morning' s low. |
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Qanghoo
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21-Sep-2016 14:00
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Well, just don' t underestimate the weight of Botak' s words, wherever it may be ....
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investshare
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21-Sep-2016 11:49
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Not saying that Uob or the old man is not good, just that they are not in the inner circle.
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Qanghoo
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21-Sep-2016 11:06
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But apparently dear old botak very well respected one u know, n seems that his views carries a lot of weight one leh. 
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FATABA
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21-Sep-2016 10:16
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So very interesting......someone wrote ( oh more than one party ....esp those LARGE US house) that Spore banks in trouble ...large BAD loans O& M .... its still there and not returned mah.... Now ...DBS OCBC and UOB all top 5 safest bank ....who to believe or I should say ....who do we wish to believe.  DYODD
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pinkowl
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21-Sep-2016 10:15
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Good one.  UOB is ranked too...as a Singapore bank in the exercise.
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investshare
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21-Sep-2016 10:11
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DBS is obviously directly controlled. Ocbc is in SPH special shareholder. So you know who's outside the inner circle.
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destinykraze
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21-Sep-2016 10:09
Yells: "Reality is only a matter of perception" |
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Dbs dropped 7 pips though. |
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Qanghoo
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21-Sep-2016 09:59
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Why leh?  The only sp bk to have a local CEO (local born n bred?). 
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investshare
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21-Sep-2016 09:56
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I think UOB is not consider as Singapore Inc.
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Just4win
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21-Sep-2016 09:48
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LOL... that' s very interesting. UOB is 4th , behind DBS n OCBC.  
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Qanghoo
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21-Sep-2016 09:46
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Is it?  I though gonna collapse under swiber n tens of billions $$$ bad loans to OnG sector?  U mean so fast forget liao meh?
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oceanblue
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21-Sep-2016 09:31
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Asia' s safest bank: http://www.straitstimes.com/business/banking/dbs-named-asias-safest-bank-ocbc-at-no-2-and-uob-at-no-4 |
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WanSiTong
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20-Sep-2016 10:52
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Singapore Banks Gain Ahead of Big Central Bank Meets Two of Singapore' s three banks rise Tuesday as markets await central bank decisions in the U.S. and Japan later this week. Markets expect the central banks to maintain dovish stances amid a slowing global economy. That may mean more business for the banks. DBS Group and United Overseas Bank are both up 0.5% at S$15.26 and S$18.91, respectively. Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. , however, is flat at S$8.61. Both DBS and OCBC were beaten down last week so their gains this week also reflect a recovery. |
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Immortal
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19-Sep-2016 18:07
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Holding steady |
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Sam1903
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19-Sep-2016 11:16
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Good observation... I also curious... 
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investshare
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19-Sep-2016 10:40
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I think might as well just increase, up or down one time settle, at least remove one uncertainty from market.
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