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hlfoo2010
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09-Sep-2016 08:55
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See High sell fast $$$$$ in CPF safer.   |
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sun233
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09-Sep-2016 08:08
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Today' s BT ............ U DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES Banks had a mixed outing with DBS unchanged and UOB and OCBC recording small gains. UOB-Kay Hian in its Thursday sector update for banks said although there is risk of asset quality deterioration because of exposure to the oil and gas (O& G) sector and although global sentiment is fragile because of geopolitical worries, it has an " overweight" recommendation for the sector premised on cheap valuations, which have already built in expectations of credit losses from the O& G sector. Maybank Kim Eng, however, said in a Wednesday report that it is maintaining its " negative" view of the sector because although Singapore banks are trading at/ below book value, investors should " beware the value trap" as the broker sees multiple stress points for return on capital that could depress valuations even more. " The six smoking guns we see are: sluggish loan volume, pricing pressures, reduced headroom for loan-deposit ratio increases, higher credit costs, trading-book dependency and regulatory capital requirements," said Maybank Kim Eng. |
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sun233
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09-Sep-2016 07:52
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Positive....IMHO
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sg_investor
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08-Sep-2016 18:41
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what will be the effect of rate hike on DBS?
 
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pinkowl
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08-Sep-2016 17:53
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Free and willing to share are two different things. =)
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willisow
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08-Sep-2016 17:50
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Not at all n u r most welcome. I' m very free, 无 业 游 民 :D
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pinkowl
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08-Sep-2016 17:30
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Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.
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pinkowl
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08-Sep-2016 17:24
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Congrats! Up close to 6% today.
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willisow
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08-Sep-2016 15:55
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Hi guys, Just checked galaxy entertainment n up by 4.5% to hkd28.60. As mentioned before my valuation is hkd30, if anyone has bought u may want to pay more attention to it just in case it realize in coming days..if it realised the valuation it will be the shortest time frame that I had experience bcos I only bought it for less than 3 weeks. Cry like baby...
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08-Sep-2016 14:45
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US markets are in a tight squeeze now and converging and once break out from this squeeze, blue sky ahead. I expect DBS to join in this upward move. should be a big move |
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willisow
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08-Sep-2016 14:22
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Subject: Recession Proved Versus Recession Fool Few days back one of our member shared an articule talking about defensive stocks n I would like to share my own view on the mentioned subject. Some investors felt that buying defensive stocks are best to hedge against economic downturn becos their earnings are stable n not affected by the economic cycle. Example of defensive stocks included, telco, public transport, hospital, milk powder, firm that provide funeral service, military arm manufacturer n etc. to summaries are product/services of inelastic demand.  However buying a defensive stock or any other stock can have devastating effect if the price  purchased is above its valuation. One good xample is M1, all the while it' s valuation stood at sgd2 plus but it' s price was trading at sgd4 about one year ago. Those who bought at a high  price n not able to escape from its crash became a recession fool (fool by recession proved).  Thus, there is no stock that can be recession proved. To safeguard our capital we will have to  buy below the valuation n with an adequate margin of safety. Different company from different industry will command different magnitude of safety margin, even companies of the same  industry can command different safety margin. Example, local telco need 10%, prc telco 20%, local n hk big domestic bank 30%, oil n gas minimum 50%, airline minimum 50% n etc. we will  only be able to identify these margin  of safety after we have scrutinized their financial report. I had made a very silly mistake when I bought two companies of the same industry n I will share  it with everyone n hope that such mistake will not be repeated by anybody. about one year ago I bought both Macau casino companies named galaxy entertainment n sjm  holding (owned by 何 鸿 森 , the god of gamble of Macau 赌 神 ). I have read extensively of galaxy entertainment last 10 years of financial report n confidently work out its valuation, where else  for sjm holding I have briefly went through its financial report due to assuming that they are from the same industry n thus should not have much different in the way they operate. My first purchased for galaxy fetched a lucrative return of close to 40% within one month n it' s  valuation was realized. Second purchased earned a return of about 25% n I have also shared my third purchase with everyone recently n currently sitting on a slight profit. Thus galaxy  earned me a return of close to 70% within one year n that' s made me danced happily at home.  Thinking that my investment for sjm will yield the same result n everyday imagined that I' m  going to count  money until my hand tired, sjm lowest price plunged about 30% below my purchased price. As both galaxy n sjm are good companies with strong balance sheet, it was  unlikely that sjm performance   was so far off from galaxy n I refer back to its financial report n found that I had made a stupid mistake which shouldn' t have made in the first place. casino income are breakdown into gaming n non gaming revenue n gaming revenue account  for about 90% of the total revenue. Thus when our government said our casino are integrated  resort n not purely casino, is not true but politically they have to assure the citizen. Within the  gaming revenue it further breakdown into mass mkt n VIP. For galaxy it is a 50/50 split n thus I  assumed sjm to be the same n did not read the financial report in detail. In reality, sjm was  70% to VIP becos apart from table game it offered satellite betting for VIP without having to  come to Macau. As the prc economy slow down n the communists are also going after  corruption, sjm operating earning fell by 60% as compared to galaxy of only 50% n my margin  of safety was also 50% for both galaxy n sjm.  After realizing my mistake I did two averaging n  now I' m still sitting at 10% loss. Although it was a silly mistake, it is not devastating mistake becos it' s new casino is completing n going to open in 2h of next year which will increase their hotel room capacity by 5 times, thus it will have positive effect to its earning n valuation will rise. Thus in investment it is totally not beneficial to jump to conclusion or assume the outcome  simply by our own thoughts n not via the concrete info from the financial reports. Thank you :)   
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willisow
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07-Sep-2016 18:25
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For leisure reading... 四 大 行 上 半 年 累 计 减 员 超 2.5万 人 银 行 成 &ldquo 瓷 饭 碗 &rdquo09-07 09:59凤 凰 网
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sun233
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07-Sep-2016 14:40
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LOL yes there are some who actually think they can influence using this forum. Those serious ones share their thoughts and views. Negative posters   just preach doomsday scenarios with no expalnation for their logic. Plus point is it is easy to spot them. Cheers. What investshare said is very true. Share buybacks are a positive for DBS. Unless something major happens DBS should be ok. As usual DD is advised.
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Qanghoo
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07-Sep-2016 10:28
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I love the sour-grape posters though.  Everyday, can' t find anything to do but posts negatives that never (yes, note " never" ) happens.  Suppose that' s their only hobby in life, poor souls.
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investshare
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07-Sep-2016 09:32
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Share buyback at this point is very positive. It hints that the dividend is intact. | ||||
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sun233
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07-Sep-2016 07:10
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Thanks bro. I have only a few shares 3600 ( average cost 14.72) but just glad to see it going up. I wonder how much of it is due to Swiber and how much with share buyback. Intend to hold till more news about interest rate which is coming out on the 21 sept.. Last night US stocks did well. All the best to you brother.
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willisow
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06-Sep-2016 23:17
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Subject: Financial Report (FR) A business man will always refer back to his financials before making any major decision likewise as an investor it is upmost important to read the fr to update ourselves what is going on to the company that we invested. There are tons of information in a fr, it can tell us about future investment that a firm is carrying out, new businesses that a firm intend to enter or existing business which they are planning to exit, financial data n etc...thus to fully understand our investment prospect it could take weeks to read their fr n that' s the reason y I always say focus our attention on info that r directly related to our investment prospect. If u really do so, basically u will not have any extra time n effort to follow other news becos info from the fr already took up most of our time for digestion. Besides understanding current/future business activities n etc, the most important info that we need to extract from the fr are the financial data. Financial data will tell us how a company operate. Companies from different industries operate differently n they will have very different financial data. Even companies of the same industry can operate differently, I have made a silly mistake about one year ago by assuming two companies which I bought of the same industry to operate similarly, as a result one of them is still sitting with loss. I will share this mistake in some other post from today. It is important to scrutinize at least last 10 years of financial data n basically what we are looking for is consistency n stability. A company that is consistent in its performance show that it' s management is prudent, it possessed competitive advantage, efficient n etc. most importantly their valuation can b easily predictable due to their stable financial data. One good xample is the telco company which I' m going to use it as an example for elaboration. The latest news indicated that sg is going to have a 4th telco operator n it resulted contested discussion among investors in the sj. Some investor felt that the new player will dilute the existing players earning n using info from the fr I have the followings to share with everyone About 10 years ago we had starhub entered the mkt. Singtel operating earning in 2007 was 4.3billion n 2016 was 5billion, M1 2007 was 321mil n 2015 was 342mil, starhub 2007 was 643mil n 2015 was 713 mil. All 3 operators registered growth in their operating earning in the past 10 years, there was no dilution of profit in Singtel n m1 due to competition from starhub. In fact, the telco pie has grown in the past 10 years. Reason being are simple, as economy grow our disposable income increases n we spent more on mobile talk time, messages, buying new mobile phone, consuming longer Internet hours, all these resulted in increased revenue for the telco companies. Population also increased in the last 10 years n further contributed to the telco pie. Thus it is not necessary that a new player will automatically have all the existing players mkt share reduced. If u look back 20 years whereby Singtel was still a monopoly n compared its operating income with the current result, it has grown bigger even though both m1 n starhub have entered the mkt.  In addition, it doesn' t mean that a new player will always be able to get mkt share n successfully compete with existing players. Firstly, a new player will always have a higher operating cost as compared to existing players. It is unknown to consumer (no branding) thus it has to advertise extensively. Its work force are new n not as efficient as existing player, thus it' s productivity are low. It has no existing customer base n it is always more xpensive to sell to new customer than an existing customer. Example the existing players can easily invite their own customer to upgrade to 5g or any other services with lower cost as compared to a new player with no customer base. Thus by scrutinizing the fr, an investor will have a good feel of both the firm n it' s industry n will not b easily shakened when such news are presented to him or immediately jump to conclusion with negative thought becos his conclusion are supported by past statistic n not simply what he think.  Thank you :)     |
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ehclim
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06-Sep-2016 23:06
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Due to the SGX market oversold for a few days and it is a technical rebound on the market. STI went up about 90 points in 2 days ie yesterday and today.
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Panda_XM
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06-Sep-2016 22:38
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You can try to filter results by Announcement Category: Announcement/ Share Buy Back-On Market
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WanSiTong
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06-Sep-2016 22:27
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I' m sorry....not that I know of.  
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