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09-Dec-2013 19:44

Renaissance United / Neglected, Illiquid, Undervalue, Recovery counter

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Just to add on, 6.2cents is assuming investment in Blumont is totally written off.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 19:42) Posted:

1 year.

hmphie ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 19:40) Posted:

Is there a timeline to your 6.2 TP

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09-Dec-2013 19:42

Renaissance United / Neglected, Illiquid, Undervalue, Recovery counter

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1 year.

hmphie ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 19:40) Posted:

Is there a timeline to your 6.2 TP?

Rosesyrup ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:21) Posted:

lol 6.2cents is my personal TP only not confirm de.

DYODD :

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09-Dec-2013 18:26

Olam Intl / OLAM_OLAM

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Lol, we just relax and wait for big funds to come in.

Fundamental_Guy ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:08) Posted:

I think a lot of that has already been priced in at the rates with which they were offered loans in last 2 years. If you look at their US listed bond, at 6.75% return and currently trading at ~11% yield to potential call this is already way higher than typical offerings (not comparing to any AAA rating even), this was because the riskyness associated with them was back then super high.

Now as the riskyness is somewhat reduced, they should ideally have some cushioining as they are already in the higher spectrum

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09-Dec-2013 18:21

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lol 6.2cents is my personal TP only not confirm de.

DYODD :)

HVRRVH ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:03) Posted:

If can realise 6.2 cents I don't mind hold for as long as 1 year. Hopefully it move up slowly but surely.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 18:01) Posted:

Vested too.

Price go up cos:

Profit warning expected.
Blumont starts recovering.

Hope this solve the mystery.

Still waiting for 6.2cents

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09-Dec-2013 18:01

Renaissance United / Neglected, Illiquid, Undervalue, Recovery counter

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Vested too.

Price go up cos:

Profit warning expected.
Blumont starts recovering.

Hope this solve the mystery.

Still waiting for 6.2cents.

HVRRVH ( Date: 09-Dec-2013 17:57) Posted:

Profit warning and the share price go up? It's a strange world but I am not complaining. Vested.

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06-Dec-2013 22:32

Renaissance United / Neglected, Illiquid, Undervalue, Recovery counter

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Who is CK?

hmphie ( Date: 06-Dec-2013 22:30) Posted:

This reminds me of how some companies pair lousy quarterly results with announcements of contractual wins. Whichever way, only the CK decides if the price goes up....or down.

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06-Dec-2013 19:22

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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Don't know about you, but all of us here are human not dog.

wanglausern ( Date: 06-Dec-2013 19:05) Posted:

How not to be cocky when eight out of ten here go against my bearish calls on ABL & Innopac. (Innopac since March when it was above 21c)

These people who went against my calls consequently lost their pants and then they became emotional and got personal with me.

You should know in this 'dog eat dog' market I've no choice, but to be extremely ruthless and kill or be killed.

MosesCat ( Date: 06-Dec-2013 16:12) Posted:

I'm not vested, but man you are annoying and cocky

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06-Dec-2013 14:05

Neptune Orient L Rg / NOL

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LOL $1 to $1.10 to $1.20 very big differences leh. Can share your TP?

flyfox ( Date: 06-Dec-2013 14:03) Posted:

I am trying to catch this at $1.00...still patiently waiting..

ok lah $1.10-$1.20 also fine haha

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06-Dec-2013 00:22

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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cccx bro, did you do any formal valuation for LionGold? If yes, can share?

Thanks.

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05-Dec-2013 12:43

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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Wang your comment assumed that market is always right, which is not true.

3 months ago when Liongold is still above $2, you would have said:

" If Liongold is so worthless, instituition would have sell it down long ago not wait for pigeons like you and I"

When market is wrong, retail investors can take advantage of the opportunities to make superior gain. I have quickly scanned through LionGold statement, provided that the figures in the statements present a true and fair view, Liongold is by far the strongest among the three and is currently undervalued.

I declare my position=> Right now still shorting Liongold and Asiason, haven't close my position yet and plan to close before end of day.

I short just to ride with market wave not because I am a hypocrite telling you to long while I can short more. Since I can't buck the market trend must as I take advantage of it.

DYODD=> > > > > > I am not making any buy or sell call. Now I also scared liao, people keep accusing me as con man. So yup, make your own decision and take your own responsibilities.

wanglausern ( Date: 05-Dec-2013 03:12) Posted:

Oh dear me!

Don't you know that all companies will want to make their promotion and projection look very glossy and attractive.

If Liongold is worthy of it claims to be, it would have long been supported and snapped up by institutions and not wait for pigeons like you & I.

Maller ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:41) Posted:

Just went to LionGold website. It was a coincidence that they just released a new presentation and fact sheet on 4 Dec 2013. Please go to their website http://www.liongoldcorp.com/and take a look. It was nicely done and really boost your confidence after you saw their materials :) Nice work

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05-Dec-2013 11:40

Golden Agri-Res / GoldenAgr

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Refer to my earlier post bro. I told ya must look a t fundamental don't just chiong in to buy when thing move up. The rally managed to hold up due to market expectation of that Haiyan will destory some CPO stocks. But as time passes and rationale sets in, people start to remember:

" Ya hor, Indonesia and Malaysia are the biggest Palm Oil producer what. Even all Palm oil tree in Philippine killed by the flood and wind, CPO stock still sky high."

Now people start to sell. You can expect to retract back to 50cent region. If you don't want to cut losses, nevermind, cos GAR is one of the most resilient counter. I am certain it will rebounce, in fact start to thrive, in one years time. So just hold and keep first.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 13:02) Posted:

Aiya, you DYODD lah.

Current price hold up by Haiyan only. How long do you think it can sustain?

lingua101 ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 13:00) Posted:

If it can go to 63 next week, I will wait. I just do not want later drop to below 50 like some one said.

I need some money by end of year.... so I can still wait 6 weeks. If it can go to 63 or even 65 in the next 2-4 weeks, I am willing to wait

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05-Dec-2013 02:56

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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You are here since March?

wanglausern ( Date: 05-Dec-2013 02:53) Posted:

You sure sound like someone who has got burnt real bad by ABL and Innopac.

If you had heeded my many warnings about Innopac way back in March to July, you wouldn't be talking to me in this manner.

shoutnovoice ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:03) Posted:

I think most forumers still believe you're a hired gun. U go to the thread of the trio poisoning the stocks and everything associated with it.

Since neo assets got frozen due to injunction, the deal will not go through but it doesn't mean the angmoh cannot be chairman and/or buy stake from the other SSH

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05-Dec-2013 00:02

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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XD Recieved strong thumbs down whenver we post any thing bullish. lol

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04-Dec-2013 23:48

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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Yup, only good management teams are sensitive to investors' need for transparency and confident level.

Maller ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:41) Posted:

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04-Dec-2013 23:31

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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If possibe, I invite you to help do a valuation Liongold- I am currently busy working on Blumont. Will share when I am done. Currently all analysts choose to cower when night falls. They are suppose to be the " professional" and the guide to the market, just like a torchlight in the dark. But unfortunately, these analysts only choose to operate during the day when everyone can see on their own.

Doing formal valuation help yourself better understand the business and get " first-hand" info.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:25) Posted:

Clam down bro,

Some here to create fear, some here to create hope, some here to share sincere opinion, some here to give " prediction" . Who sincere who real, who bullish who bearish doesn't matter. Fake one can only decieve small retail investors, they cannot affect the market which is controlled by BBs. As BBs have their own stand and target.

So let them be. Once the sun is out, darkness and its minion will retreat.

My suggestion: Regardless of which position you hold now, stay faithful to your own view only. Market very chaotic right now, anything can happen.

Own money, own view, own decision, own profit, own respsibility.

shoutnovoice ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:14) Posted:

Those who doubt the 900k oz of gold reserves can include their full name and nric/passport here.

Forumers can help forward to the company for it to take action against these pple who post irresponsibly, fair? You have to stake ur money/reputation where ur mouth is.

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04-Dec-2013 23:25

Shen Yao / ThinkEnv name change to Liongold Corp

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shoutnovoice ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:14) Posted:

Maller ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 23:06) Posted:

Focus. If u think LionGold has value, buy when the price is low. When things are clear, it will go back to its fair value :-) Hope those patience ones get rewarded soon...

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04-Dec-2013 22:48

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Hey Brother Bone,

Who are the " they" here? Refering to

IPCO management trying detach themselve from trio? OR
Shareholders trying to cut loss?

Thanks.

dogbone1 ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 22:41) Posted:

They are now doing damage control

Rosesyrup ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 22:08) Posted:

Thanks alot Bro ace.

Huat to you.

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04-Dec-2013 22:08

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Thanks alot Bro ace.

Huat to you.

ace333 ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 22:03) Posted:

lol......tat time u came to my thread to ask me share right.......ok.........the trick is actually here.............

As the relative figures under Rules 1006 (a) and (b) of the Listing Manual of the SGXST

are more than 5.0% but less than 20.0%, the Disposal constitutes a ?discloseable

transaction? under Rule 1010 of the Listing Manual of the SGX-ST.

no nid shareholder approval..........above 20% is called major transaction........nid shareholder approval..........therefore ans yr question y ipco can immediately cash out.........future upside is the bal 30% stake...........lol

Rosesyrup ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 19:09) Posted:

RATIONALE
As stated in the Annual Report of the Company for its financial year ended 30 April
2013, the investment securities trading activities of the Company and its subsidiaries
(?Group?) are undertaken by SSGL and two other wholly owned subsidiaries of the
Company.
The Disposal is part of the Group?s internal restructuring process to streamline the
Group?s investment securities trading activities.
As SSGL still holds a current portfolio of quoted securities, the disposal of 70% of the
issued and paid up share capital of SSGL allows the Group to immediately monetise its
indirect holdings of such quoted securities whilst allowing the Group to retain a stake to
enjoy any future potential increase in value of such quoted securities.

Can some one help to explain the highlighted part? I don't understand how come IPCO can immediately cash out while still enjoy future upside? Sell already still can get gain in the future. Such a good deal?

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04-Dec-2013 20:51

SIA / SIA

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O.o

You vested in bluechip too? I tot you are interested in pennies only?

Itachi ( Date: 30-Nov-2013 01:29) Posted:

nice try....juat try harder next time round

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04-Dec-2013 19:09

Renaissance United / Neglected, Illiquid, Undervalue, Recovery counter

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RATIONALE
As stated in the Annual Report of the Company for its financial year ended 30 April
2013, the investment securities trading activities of the Company and its subsidiaries
(?Group?) are undertaken by SSGL and two other wholly owned subsidiaries of the
Company.
The Disposal is part of the Group?s internal restructuring process to streamline the
Group?s investment securities trading activities.
As SSGL still holds a current portfolio of quoted securities, the disposal of 70% of the
issued and paid up share capital of SSGL allows the Group to immediately monetise its
indirect holdings of such quoted securities whilst allowing the Group to retain a stake to
enjoy any future potential increase in value of such quoted securities.

Can some one help to explain the highlighted part? I don't understand how come IPCO can immediately cash out while still enjoy future upside? Sell already still can get gain in the future. Such a good deal?

hmphie ( Date: 04-Dec-2013 18:53) Posted:

Ipco just sold 70% in Sun Spirit.

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