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21-Feb-2018 17:19

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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so confirm is not short monkey liao ....
they are hardup for money to cover their big holes ....

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 17:15) Posted:

He waited till the end. Then he whacked. Bar-Gay-Row him.

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21-Feb-2018 17:09

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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consider very good liao
dont' s forget DJ minus 250 pts last night
ST is not a speculation stock so need times to craw up step by step

john_ric ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 16:30) Posted:

cant even cross 3.4. where got bullish??

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21-Feb-2018 17:04

Hyflux / Hyflux

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am waiting for MAS to say and do something
will OCBC and DBS can escape this time ?

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21-Feb-2018 16:59

Hyflux / Hyflux

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Hi Bro

Thanks for sharing. This is super value info

xtoh07x ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 16:53) Posted:

Hi guys, im a newbie here, but also have a significant holdings (at least for me) in the Hyflux CPS. I found the following, and thought of sharing:

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OCBC plotting to screw DBS with Hyflux
I will keep it short. Hyflux' s principal banker is DBS.
OCBC initiated a internal credit report on Hyflux (not supposed to release to public but their dealers will leak to client through unofficial channels). The report claimed that Hyflux will not (likely) redeem their upcoming preference shares due in 28 April 2018.
Days before the credit report was released, OCBC bond traders churned the Hyflux preference shares (SGX Code: N2H) in small volumes, buying them and reselling at even lower prices (at a loss), through their clients and proxies in UOB Kay Hian. There is no overnight short position, but just a relentless push to close Hyflux preference shares (SGX Code: N2H) and perpetual bonds (SGX Code: BTWZ) at lower prices.
Hyflux' s ordinary shares crashed a few percent while bonds nose-dived in double digits yesterday after the credit report released. The stability of the ordinary share price hinted that the company is not in distress. However, the liquidity for bond market is low so it is easier to crash the bonds. Eg. Hyflux' s issued preference shares and perpetuals are $900 million to $1 billion in value and it takes only 0.2% of it ($2million) to crash the prices because bond investors don' t trade in and out like equities.
DBS Treasures' clients have a sizeable position in the two Hyflux 6% preference and perpetual shares and suffered huge margin calls, several are sitting on losses above their capital due to their leverage. As a result, a force-selling was triggered.
The intention was to disrupt DBS' s dominance in the SGD bond markets (underwriting and placement), wiping out a repeat customer for DBS and destroying the clients of DBS' s Treasures' RMs.
In the same report, OCBC also admits that Hyflux has the ability to redeem the preference shares within a year or two. Based on current prices, investors stands to make about 35% within 2 months if Hyflux redeems the shares on April 2018 with a bridging loan from DBS, translating to a huge 200%pa returns.
At this moment, OCBC is laughing their way to the bank as they start to bargain hunt for long-term positions while investors offloads.

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Not sure validity, after all, anything that is taken online, should be with pinch of salt.

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21-Feb-2018 15:37

StarHub / Starhub

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no one know too .....
low can be lower....
can also be the bottom now, as long as you are confortable with the price why not right ?
just need to be more cautious with Wall Street' s movement

yellowveggiez ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 15:32) Posted:

at this price can buy or not?

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21-Feb-2018 15:34

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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or may not be what you think .....
the big lots buy sell can be the same funds do contra play to gain profit

KAMAL0883 ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 15:32) Posted:

depend
if they hit their target i.e. reduce from 10% to 5% or if they have disposal all their holding

MichaelSchenker ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 15:27) Posted:

Good job, Thanks for sharing.

Seems like the trigger point is 3.39

Also notice it was sold in several tranches, which tells us Seller is not short selling. He is trying to maintain a high selling price without any intention to buy or cover back. If he sells his entire holdings at one go, it would probably crash the counter.

I am just guessing it is some kind of funds making an exit. Question is when will it be completed. One month target

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21-Feb-2018 15:32

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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depend
if they hit their target i.e. reduce from 10% to 5% or if they have disposal all their holding

MichaelSchenker ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 15:27) Posted:

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:09) Posted:

Here' s more of the Bull-Bear Fight.

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21-Feb-2018 15:28

Hyflux / Hyflux

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not abt dare or dare not....
if they really no money to pay then kill them also no use.
a good CEO must find a way to settle it otherwise better step down worst is company windup

zillion ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:56) Posted:

No companies dare to default their coupon payments as that is the first sign of run road. Bonds holders are mainly mutual funds insurance funds banks. At 6% interest payments it makes sense to go for refinancing. Refinancing is one bread income for banks.

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21-Feb-2018 15:07

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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seem like times on this monkey fund' s hand cos equity market not stable at this moment,

any price up will lure in more profit takers

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 15:01) Posted:

Let' s see whether the Kartek Monkey takes out all the buyers at 3.38.
If he doesn' t and instead he waits for others to push the price back to 3.40-3.42 before he whacks the buyers, then that is a
not-so-bad sign. Not so bad becoz it can mean he is playing for 1 to 3 bids and has no intention to whack the price all the way
down to 3.30 and then break it to make long term holders give up.

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21-Feb-2018 14:35

Hyflux / Hyflux

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truth ! it' s something like carry a rock hitting on own foots
who would want to buy their bonds for future issue also

whenissued ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:27) Posted:

The second series of Hyflux 6% bonds,ie, the "Perps", do not have the cumulative interest feature. If Hyflux for some unknown reason does not pay the semi-annual interest for these perps, the interest does not accumulate till the next payment date. Only the first series, ie, the "CPS", has that. Anyway, if Hyflux does not pay either one of these bonds, it will cause a very, very drastic shockwave to the mother share and its overall business as a whole...

john_ric ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 05:18) Posted:

why the other hyflux 6% pcs which is callable on 2020 is falling even faster??

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21-Feb-2018 14:22

Sembcorp Ind / Semb Corp to file for Indian IPO

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0k but careful cos ah nay cannot be trusted

blurtrader ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 12:14) Posted:

alright, i' m in it. I believe Mr Neil has something up for his strategic plan

each to his or her own risk appetite :) good luck to you

KAMAL0883 ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 12:11) Posted:

every 3rd world country also grow country ? Sri Lanka , Pakistan , Mianma , Laos , most Middle East and Africa country & Papua New Guena ??

take how long to grow ? 30 years ? 50 years ? sure will grow or die half way ? if sure then Sri Lanka , Pakistan , PNG all can invest lia

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21-Feb-2018 14:20

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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1 or 2 cents for 1,000 lots in out per day can make quite a lot ....

300 lots , 500 lots or 1,000 lots only those f.x.x.k.e.r. can and dare to do

small investors how to

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:17) Posted:

Ya. Can be.

If this monkey is contented with making 1 to 3 bids and he allows the price to remain at the current 3.37 to 3.42 range, then that' s fine.
When he has enough and stops selling, with only buying in big lots not met by selling in big lots, this stock will recover. But if he is selling
only (haven' t covered yet) to collect SHORTs and he intends to break the long term support at 3.30 to trigger panic selling, then we are
in for rough times.

KAMAL0883 ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:09) Posted:

buy 834 at 3.38 ( 9.10 am )
sold 1229 at 3.40 ( 9.18 )

can be same funds contra play

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21-Feb-2018 14:15

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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can be same funds ....

sold 1229 at 3.40 and 182 at 3.39
bot 834 at 3.38
bot 162 at 3.39
bot 81 at 3.39
bot 848 at 3.39

net long but already in the money liao...
if up again they can sell the net long

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:09) Posted:

Here' s more of the Bull-Bear Fight.

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21-Feb-2018 14:09

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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buy 834 at 3.38 ( 9.10 am )
sold 1229 at 3.40 ( 9.18 )

can be same funds contra play

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21-Feb-2018 14:06

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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with this kind of vol 2 cents can make quite a lot

KAMAL0883 ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:04) Posted:

tks

ya hor.... this f.x.x.k.e.r really sold a lot

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:03) Posted:

This was likely a fund or institution buying...

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21-Feb-2018 14:04

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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tks

ya hor.... this f.x.x.k.e.r really sold a lot

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 14:03) Posted:

This was likely a fund or institution buying...

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21-Feb-2018 13:59

StarHub / Starhub

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Starhub' s movie damn fk lousy..
keep repeating and repeating every week every month every year...
those movies seen in last year, year before last year , year before last last year CNY and this year repeated again.
who would want to sub this kind of movie programm so how could the business improve ?

john_ric ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 13:12) Posted:

he made another mistake.

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21-Feb-2018 13:53

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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any big lots sell for today pls ?

wavehunter ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 13:51) Posted:

It must be very frustrating for the Kartek Monkey to face resistance from funds and retail players doing bargain hunting.
He probably didnt expect funds to come out to buy at this stage and had expected them to remain sidelined just like the
way they stayed away when this stock fell from 3.59 to 3.36 region.

This Kartek Monkey was SHORTing from 3.39 to 3.32. The bounce from 3.32 to 3.43 came about becoz some funds started
to buy. The Kartek Monkey then continued to exert his authority by selling and he hammered the price back down from 3.42 to
3.37 over the last 2 days. But funds kept coming out to buy and this has helped the price to stay at the 3.37 to 3.42 range. So
this Kartek Monkey must be feeling rather frustrated and wondering if funds will continue to frustrate him by coming out to buy to
keep the price at this range. Each time he hammers it down, funds push it back up. Macam like giving the Kartek Monkey a taste
of his own medicine lidat. Good.

Now I am waiting to see if the Kartek Monkey will persevere and call on his reserves to continue this whacking game. I think he was
counting on breaking the long term support at 3.30 to create fear and panic amongst long term holders to throw. Panic selling will
help the Kartek Monkey' s cause. But if funds continue to come out in succession to buy to support the price, and the buying is strong
enough, it may well force this Kartek Monkey to settle for Plan B where he will still make money but make lesser.

I suppose alot will depend on what the smart money wants to do at Wall Street in the next 2 to 3 weeks. If they decide that the Recent
LOWs have established where the bottom is and it is time to re-start the engine of this die die dont want to die raging bull, then the broader
market will see a return of the rising tide. This will make even more funds come out to stock up on SingTel for long term. Their combined
buying coupled with buying from institutions, investors and traders will force the Kartek Monkey to call it a wrap. But if smart money at
Wall Street is planning for another final leg down to end the correction, this will be tail wind for the Kartek Monkey as funds will certainly
observe a ceasefire if a strong ill-wind blows our way.

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21-Feb-2018 12:11

Sembcorp Ind / Semb Corp to file for Indian IPO

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blurtrader ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 12:01) Posted:

its a growing country btw

which biz has no risk, please advise me

KAMAL0883 ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 11:46) Posted:

India ( describe as rape country by worlds ) will be the next Asia financial crisis country after Japan, Thailand & Malaysia ...

too risky to invest in India

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21-Feb-2018 12:00

SingTel / Singtel Bullish???

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the pay very good dividend ...
if you are young good to enter some and down further can do some avg
if you are old and with deep pocket then also can jeep but if your money just enough for your retirement then stay put

KAMAL0883 ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 11:54) Posted:

SINTEL very low risk, the only problem is either you get in at high side or low side ....

SuperLuckyCorn ( Date: 21-Feb-2018 09:41) Posted:

May be one dump, the other pump.
We follow General MichaelSchenker' s Strategy.
Most important need to know ur own risk level & what suit u best.

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