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Daily US Treasury Yield Curve Rates for the month of Febuary.
1 to 6 months rates declined from the beginning of Febuary while 2yr to 30 years rates has risen in the same period.
Plot these levels on chart one will see a upward sloping graph(steepening of yield curve). Bond market professionals
read it as rates will rise in the future. The longer short term rates stay low the likely yield curve will continue to steepen.
A steepening yield curve suggest economic expansion. Some stock market players keep an eye on the bond market as
some believe that the bond market is ahead of what will happen. Interest rates will rise but not now not in the forseeable
near future.

This is the first time we are hearing inflation concern by some market participants, not by the most of FED members tho,
not yet.

TikTalk ( Date: 26-Feb-2021 08:23) Posted:

Date	1 Mo	2 Mo	3 Mo	6 Mo	1 Yr	2 Yr	3 Yr	5 Yr	7 Yr	10 Yr	20 Yr	30 Yr
02/01/21	0.06	0.07	0.07	0.08	0.08	0.11	0.17	0.42	0.76	1.09	1.66	1.84
02/02/21	0.04	0.05	0.07	0.08	0.08	0.11	0.18	0.45	0.79	1.12	1.69	1.87
02/03/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.08	0.11	0.19	0.46	0.81	1.15	1.73	1.92
02/04/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.18	0.46	0.81	1.15	1.75	1.93
02/05/21	0.02	0.03	0.03	0.05	0.06	0.09	0.19	0.47	0.83	1.19	1.79	1.97
02/08/21	0.04	0.03	0.05	0.05	0.07	0.11	0.20	0.48	0.83	1.19	1.78	1.96
02/09/21	0.04	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.19	0.48	0.83	1.18	1.78	1.95
02/10/21	0.05	0.04	0.05	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.19	0.46	0.80	1.15	1.75	1.92
02/11/21	0.05	0.05	0.05	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.19	0.46	0.81	1.16	1.77	1.94
02/12/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.05	0.06	0.11	0.20	0.50	0.85	1.20	1.83	2.01
02/16/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.08	0.13	0.23	0.57	0.94	1.30	1.92	2.08
02/17/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.21	0.57	0.94	1.29	1.92	2.06
02/18/21	0.03	0.03	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.11	0.21	0.56	0.94	1.29	1.91	2.08
02/19/21	0.03	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.22	0.59	0.98	1.34	1.98	2.14
02/22/21	0.03	0.02	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.11	0.22	0.61	1.00	1.37	2.02	2.19
02/23/21	0.03	0.02	0.04	0.05	0.08	0.11	0.22	0.59	1.00	1.37	2.03	2.21
02/24/21	0.03	0.03	0.03	0.05	0.08	0.12	0.24	0.62	1.02	1.38	2.07	2.24
02/25/21	0.04	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.09	0.17	0.34	0.81	1.23	1.54	2.25	2.33

Thursday Feb 25, 2021

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Date	1 Mo	2 Mo	3 Mo	6 Mo	1 Yr	2 Yr	3 Yr	5 Yr	7 Yr	10 Yr	20 Yr	30 Yr
02/01/21	0.06	0.07	0.07	0.08	0.08	0.11	0.17	0.42	0.76	1.09	1.66	1.84
02/02/21	0.04	0.05	0.07	0.08	0.08	0.11	0.18	0.45	0.79	1.12	1.69	1.87
02/03/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.08	0.11	0.19	0.46	0.81	1.15	1.73	1.92
02/04/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.18	0.46	0.81	1.15	1.75	1.93
02/05/21	0.02	0.03	0.03	0.05	0.06	0.09	0.19	0.47	0.83	1.19	1.79	1.97
02/08/21	0.04	0.03	0.05	0.05	0.07	0.11	0.20	0.48	0.83	1.19	1.78	1.96
02/09/21	0.04	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.19	0.48	0.83	1.18	1.78	1.95
02/10/21	0.05	0.04	0.05	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.19	0.46	0.80	1.15	1.75	1.92
02/11/21	0.05	0.05	0.05	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.19	0.46	0.81	1.16	1.77	1.94
02/12/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.05	0.06	0.11	0.20	0.50	0.85	1.20	1.83	2.01
02/16/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.08	0.13	0.23	0.57	0.94	1.30	1.92	2.08
02/17/21	0.03	0.04	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.21	0.57	0.94	1.29	1.92	2.06
02/18/21	0.03	0.03	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.11	0.21	0.56	0.94	1.29	1.91	2.08
02/19/21	0.03	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.07	0.11	0.22	0.59	0.98	1.34	1.98	2.14
02/22/21	0.03	0.02	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.11	0.22	0.61	1.00	1.37	2.02	2.19
02/23/21	0.03	0.02	0.04	0.05	0.08	0.11	0.22	0.59	1.00	1.37	2.03	2.21
02/24/21	0.03	0.03	0.03	0.05	0.08	0.12	0.24	0.62	1.02	1.38	2.07	2.24
02/25/21	0.04	0.03	0.04	0.06	0.09	0.17	0.34	0.81	1.23	1.54	2.25	2.33

Thursday Feb 25, 2021

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I have not heard of any rumour of rate hike le. Rise in long dated bond yields is just a market
expectation that rates will have to rise eventually.

wavehunter ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 14:31) Posted:

If rumour of interest rate hike was what caused banks to rally and REITs to dip, then this should clear the air and see some price adjustment.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/02/23/fed-interest-rate-powell-says-economy-a-long-way-feds-goals/4551462001/

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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/04/bank-stocks-jump-as-treasury-yields-rise-ways-to-trade-the-group.html

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Ya, some has fallen quite a bit from its high, some consolidating while some still making lower lows.

halleluyah ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 12:17) Posted:

tats why u see fund hse dumping reits lately....last yr n tis yr kena covid attack....next yr most likely kena int hike attack....i will rather look fr growth counter wth div than reits unless its super attractive px....

TikTalk ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 11:28) Posted:

That statement is only referring to short term rates. When I say treasury yields I am
talking about long term rates too such as 10 years or 30 years bond yields.

For e.g 1 month treasury bills on Aug 5th was 0.8% and today its 0.3% which Powell
said due to strong demand for treasury bills.

But 10 years treasury note yields on Aug 5th was 0.52% and today its 1.37%, see it
has gone up by 0.85%

Most people only looks at short term rates. In fact one should learn more about the bond market
or the " US Treasury Yield Curve" , can ask MR Google.
Understanding the yield curve will give one a better understanding of market expectation on rates and the economy.
For e.g. What is a " Inverted Yield Curve" and what it means? or a " Steep yield curve" .
The shape of the curve is the bond market expectations of " economic recession" or " economic expansion" , which will
leads to lower rates or higher rates in the future.

Looking at just short term rates is not very helpful as it only tells the current economic condition.

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Congrats again ar....just hold those small reds that I have, collect dividends while watching how high it can go.

CheeryVGoh ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 12:14) Posted:

Also OCBC has a good set of results.

Sold some Black train at 26.43 this morning.

TikTalk ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:25) Posted:

US treasury yields are moving higher, good for banks when rates go up. Talks about long term rates could go up
sooner than later if inflation does inch up

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Correction 1 month treasury bills was 0.08% on Aug 5th 2020 but today its 0.03%

TikTalk ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 11:28) Posted:

That statement is only referring to short term rates. When I say treasury yields I am
talking about long term rates too such as 10 years or 30 years bond yields.

For e.g 1 month treasury bills on Aug 5th was 0.8% and today its 0.3% which Powell
said due to strong demand for treasury bills.

But 10 years treasury note yields on Aug 5th was 0.52% and today its 1.37%, see it
has gone up by 0.85%

Most people only looks at short term rates. In fact one should learn more about the bond market
or the " US Treasury Yield Curve" , can ask MR Google.
Understanding the yield curve will give one a better understanding of market expectation on rates and the economy.
For e.g. What is a " Inverted Yield Curve" and what it means? or a " Steep yield curve" .
The shape of the curve is the bond market expectations of " economic recession" or " economic expansion" , which will
leads to lower rates or higher rates in the future.

Looking at just short term rates is not very helpful as it only tells the current economic condition.

wavehunter ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:43) Posted:

I thought Jerome already said in 2020 that no rate hike for whole of 2021 ?

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That statement is only referring to short term rates. When I say treasury yields I am
talking about long term rates too such as 10 years or 30 years bond yields.

For e.g 1 month treasury bills on Aug 5th was 0.8% and today its 0.3% which Powell
said due to strong demand for treasury bills.

But 10 years treasury note yields on Aug 5th was 0.52% and today its 1.37%, see it
has gone up by 0.85%

Most people only looks at short term rates. In fact one should learn more about the bond market
or the " US Treasury Yield Curve" , can ask MR Google.
Understanding the yield curve will give one a better understanding of market expectation on rates and the economy.
For e.g. What is a " Inverted Yield Curve" and what it means? or a " Steep yield curve" .
The shape of the curve is the bond market expectations of " economic recession" or " economic expansion" , which will
leads to lower rates or higher rates in the future.

Looking at just short term rates is not very helpful as it only tells the current economic condition.

wavehunter ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:43) Posted:

I thought Jerome already said in 2020 that no rate hike for whole of 2021 ?

TikTalk ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:25) Posted:

US treasury yields are moving higher, good for banks when rates go up. Talks about long term rates could go up
sooner than later if inflation does inch up

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OCBC final dividents 15.9cts, total for fy20 will be 31.8cts which is max payout under MAS guildlines.

TikTalk ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:25) Posted:

US treasury yields are moving higher, good for banks when rates go up. Talks about long term rates could go up
sooner than later if inflation does inch up.

elisa28 ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:13) Posted:

All 3 banks, up up up. Any news???

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US treasury yields are moving higher, good for banks when rates go up. Talks about long term rates could go up
sooner than later if inflation does inch up.

elisa28 ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:13) Posted:

All 3 banks, up up up. Any news????

elisa28 ( Date: 24-Feb-2021 09:10) Posted:

DBS CHIONG Liao, 26.34

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Your faith in the company has paid off. Congrats!

CheeryVGoh ( Date: 22-Feb-2021 17:04) Posted:

I don' t know why.

Those pple who sold are probably not a strong fan. Keke!

I' m a fan of AhMar who sees value in her.

wavehunter ( Date: 22-Feb-2021 16:47) Posted:

Why in anticipation of good results and announcement of special dividend, Ah Mar is down 7 cts at 5.50 : 5.51 with Day Low at 5.49 ?
BB is going to do the flush following release of results?

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Hi CC, thats a very good question. Therefore even more reason for Central Banks around the world to regulate cryptocurrency I guess.

CandyCrusher ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 23:31) Posted:

Actually reading the Tanjong Pagar accident somehow link me to a cryptocurrency question.

What if the 5 deceased all have bitcoin stored in their wallet and password not shared to anyone else? Is the bitcoin is as good as gone?
Won' t that be a flaw to the system, lets say more and more people keep their passwords to themselves?

Fiat and physical gold still can reposses cause of the will or ancestral means but cryto how ah?

Can some deep cryto expert enlighten me?

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Bro wave, there is still market risk on the underlying stock or mother shares just like when an
outright purchased or sale of existing stock whereby it can overshoot on the downside and upside.

But this option enhance the overall yields of your portfolios because on top of a dividend stock you
are receiving additional premium. Therefore it is a tool for prudent money management.

wavehunter ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 23:10) Posted:

Bro Tiktalk,

This method gives you a sure-win ?

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 20:54) Posted:

For call options:

Selling Call options-A) If one sell a call option on Tesla but one does not own Tesla shares, its a " naked short" .
In this case one will have unlimited risk as theoritically Tesla can go to the moon according to WSB..lol

B) But if one own Tesla shares and he sell a call option say at a STRIKE at $900 with an expiration date of 2 months.
In this case one owned the underlying stock its known as writing a " covered call option" therefore there is in fact no risk on
this option trade.

Same strategy to the put option, if i think Tesla can go to $900 and I am long the stock at $598 now. I can sell a call option with a
STRIKE at $900 with 2 months to expiration and getting paid $2 premium from the buyers premium. Why not while waiting for
Tesla to go there. If goes above $900 and the buyer exercise I deliver those shares I owned, so I actually sold Tesla for $902.
If it doesnt go above $900 after 2 months or another 2 months to follow, i would have collected $4, you see now my cost of
Tesla shares becomes $594 after deducting premiums collected in the past months.

I mentioned this two strategy as its not speculative, you are just getting paid while waiting to buy or sell at your target price for
any stock you are keen on after dyodd.

Cheer

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For call options:

Selling Call options-A) If one sell a call option on Tesla but one does not own Tesla shares, its a " naked short" .
In this case one will have unlimited risk as theoritically Tesla can go to the moon according to WSB..lol

B) But if one own Tesla shares and he sell a call option say at a STRIKE at $900 with an expiration date of 2 months.
In this case one owned the underlying stock its known as writing a " covered call option" therefore there is in fact no risk on
this option trade.

Same strategy to the put option, if i think Tesla can go to $900 and I am long the stock at $598 now. I can sell a call option with a
STRIKE at $900 with 2 months to expiration and getting paid $2 premium from the buyers premium. Why not while waiting for
Tesla to go there. If goes above $900 and the buyer exercise I deliver those shares I owned, so I actually sold Tesla for $902.
If it doesnt go above $900 after 2 months or another 2 months to follow, i would have collected $4, you see now my cost of
Tesla shares becomes $594 after deducting premiums collected in the past months.

I mentioned this two strategy as its not speculative, you are just getting paid while waiting to buy or sell at your target price for
any stock you are keen on after dyodd.

Cheers

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 12:13) Posted:

Bro bystander1965,

I sold put options most of the time when using options in US market. Not only market maker can, retail also can.

Here is an example why:

If I want to buy Tesla at $600 but now the share pride is $800
I will sell a put option on Tesla at strike 600 and collect a premium(say whatever it is say $2) for expiration of 2 weeks time.

Above strategy I used is to collect premium while waiting for the stock to come down to 600, so in the meantime
I am getting paid while waiting to buy at my price of $600.

When selling options one has time on their side.

If Tesla go below $600 the buyer of the put option will exercise his right to sell me the stock at $600,
so for him to exercise the stock must fall below his cost including the premium he paid for the option, lets say Tesla
falls to $570 and his option premium is $2, so he makes $28. He deliver Tesla to me and I pay him $600.
My cost of owning Tesla will be $600 minus whatever premium I collected, just assuming $2. So I now
own Tesla at $598. And thats my total risk, if Tesla goes to 0 I lost $598, therefore its not unlimited risk when selling put option,

Above is an example of one of the strategy I applied on stock that I am keen to buy lower, any stock.

bystander1965 ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:09) Posted:

Retailers do not " sell" call or put options. Those are by the market makers. If you do that your risk is unlimited.
If you " buy" call/put options, your risk is limited to only what you put in when the option price falls to 0 when it expires

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Ya hope to see 1.20 or higher in this 牛 year

CheeryVGoh ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 13:48) Posted:

Shall hold balance of Ms Yang till results released, big haul of orders in 2021.

Already met 65% of annual order target, so should see more upsides in price .

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:55) Posted:

Sis Goh how many counters you have?

Huat ar....I only sold a small portion just to book niu year profits for heng heng.

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Bro bystander1965,

I sold put options most of the time when using options in US market. Not only market maker can, retail also can.

Here is an example why:

If I want to buy Tesla at $600 but now the share pride is $800
I will sell a put option on Tesla at strike 600 and collect a premium(say whatever it is say $2) for expiration of 2 weeks time.

Above strategy I used is to collect premium while waiting for the stock to come down to 600, so in the meantime
I am getting paid while waiting to buy at my price of $600.

When selling options one has time on their side.

If Tesla go below $600 the buyer of the put option will exercise his right to sell me the stock at $600,
so for him to exercise the stock must fall below his cost including the premium he paid for the option, lets say Tesla
falls to $570 and his option premium is $2, so he makes $28. He deliver Tesla to me and I pay him $600.
My cost of owning Tesla will be $600 minus whatever premium I collected, just assuming $2. So I now
own Tesla at $598. And thats my total risk, if Tesla goes to 0 I lost $598, therefore its not unlimited risk when selling put option,

Above is an example of one of the strategy I applied on stock that I am keen to buy lower, any stock.

bystander1965 ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:09) Posted:

Retailers do not " sell" call or put options. Those are by the market makers. If you do that your risk is unlimited.
If you " buy" call/put options, your risk is limited to only what you put in when the option price falls to 0 when it expires.

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:04) Posted:

For those want to trade options, please google to understand the concepts of Calls and Puts option.
They are meant for sophistacated players.

Call option : The buyer of a call buys the right to purchase the stock at a specified price known as the STRIKE.
Theoritically a seller of call option has unlimited risk too. To be specific naked selling.
Buyings call is a bullish trade.

Put option : the buyer of a put buys the right to sell the stock at a spcified price known as vthe STRIKE
Theoritically a seller of put option has limited risk.Buying puts is a bearish trade.

Most people using options to speculate because of leverage, it has the risk too since leveraging. Again can google to
understand pricing models used to calulate option premium.

Never buy option on a Thursday, if the stock doesnt move, time decay from Friday through weekend and your option
premium will open on Monday lower if the stock is still at Thursday closed.

I am no option expert, above are some of it that I understand.

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Sis Goh how many counters you have?

Huat ar....I only sold a small portion just to book niu year profits for heng heng..

CheeryVGoh ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:21) Posted:

Congrats, Bro TikTalk

I' m vested too.

Cheers !

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 10:24) Posted:

Sold 5000 at 1.04,,,huat ar...still veste

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Bro wave, pure charting or just making a lucky guess. I dunno their accoutants or auditors...lol...

wavehunter ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:35) Posted:

Thanks Bro TikTok.
What' s the reason for you to anticipate a surge this week?
Results and dividends?

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:16) Posted:

Bro wave, my first tp 1.05 to 1.10, today high 1.07, first objective met in a way.
I expect to test near 1.20. It may come within this 2 weeks. But thats just my hunch
when i bought. In fact today surge was what I anticiapted for this week but didnt
expect today to shoot so much, so book small profits

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In today bullish US market making money doesnt mean one understand what they are doing. Just that
the market made them looks good, not because they are good, sorry for my harsh words. If they buy option
on Friday tells me they dont understand option pricing i.e. time decay.

My friend made usd30k in few nights due to WSB, lost 20k the next trade. Just lucky still positive.
To me is pure speculating, herd mentality.

I shared what I understand.

Kazerin ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:16) Posted:

my friend only buy options on friday on indices and his strikerate is super high.
telegam - search " black rabbit' s options room"
but you need to know some smart money concepts if you were to understand it... cant paste the invite url here as SJ dont allowed
my other friend buy option for as far away as 2 years expiring because he trades on longer TF.
So everybody' s method is different.

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:04) Posted:

For those want to trade options, please google to understand the concepts of Calls and Puts option.
They are meant for sophistacated players.

Call option : The buyer of a call buys the right to purchase the stock at a specified price known as the STRIKE.
Theoritically a seller of call option has unlimited risk too. To be specific naked selling.
Buyings call is a bullish trade.

Put option : the buyer of a put buys the right to sell the stock at a spcified price known as vthe STRIKE
Theoritically a seller of put option has limited risk.Buying puts is a bearish trade.

Most people using options to speculate because of leverage, it has the risk too since leveraging. Again can google to
understand pricing models used to calulate option premium.

Never buy option on a Thursday, if the stock doesnt move, time decay from Friday through weekend and your option
premium will open on Monday lower if the stock is still at Thursday closed.

I am no option expert, above are some of it that I understand.

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Bro, you are contradicting your earlier message.

" One thing good about option at least is if you short, your loss is limited unlike shorting the mother shares"

You need to know the different between short a Call or Put options. They have different risk.

bystander1965 ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:09) Posted:

Retailers do not " sell" call or put options. Those are by the market makers. If you do that your risk is unlimited.
If you " buy" call/put options, your risk is limited to only what you put in when the option price falls to 0 when it expires.

TikTalk ( Date: 15-Feb-2021 11:04) Posted:

For those want to trade options, please google to understand the concepts of Calls and Puts option.
They are meant for sophistacated players.

Call option : The buyer of a call buys the right to purchase the stock at a specified price known as the STRIKE.
Theoritically a seller of call option has unlimited risk too. To be specific naked selling.
Buyings call is a bullish trade.

Put option : the buyer of a put buys the right to sell the stock at a spcified price known as vthe STRIKE
Theoritically a seller of put option has limited risk.Buying puts is a bearish trade.

Most people using options to speculate because of leverage, it has the risk too since leveraging. Again can google to
understand pricing models used to calulate option premium.

Never buy option on a Thursday, if the stock doesnt move, time decay from Friday through weekend and your option
premium will open on Monday lower if the stock is still at Thursday closed.

I am no option expert, above are some of it that I understand.