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No lah, we are just more passionate in our sharing only.  It' s good to have opposing views so that everyone can have clearer understanding of the markets pulses.  Huat To All!..... its possible, only at different timing.
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 10:32) Posted:
my purposes of saying this just to tell everyone of you dun try to understand China cos you can nvr undestand them.
so dun waste time arguing with each other over China matters.
forcus on how to make money will do
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 10:28) Posted:
China ( CNY/CNH ) is like that ----
they will stand tall and strong when the whole world think they will fall.....
when the whole world think they will go fast and further then they reverse |
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Yup Chinese, especilly the China, Taiwan and Hong Kong, Macau ones..... are like that.  These are people who have been throught real hardship or are in real hardship currently..... to them, its do or die trying.
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Bro, clear you head.  You are seeing what you want to see.
What I said was ....you said " most" of the times it rallied during CNY.  I then asked you how about the other times it did not rallied during CNY?  what were the reasons why they did not rallied during those times before CNY?
onionknight ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 10:20) Posted:
just now you are talking about CNY, now you are trying to shift to other times. yeah we can continue to talk about the rest of 350 days in the year one by one, but I am not gonna waste more time on you.
Luzern ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 10:18) Posted:
| Everyone is entitled to their views.  And you did say most of the time it rallied during CNY....what about the other times?  what are the reasons for the non- rally during those times?  there are different level of dissecting data.  Are you just seeing what you want to see and subconciously blocking out the other details |
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STI negative.......
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Everyone is entitled to their views.  And you did say most of the time it rallied during CNY....what about the other times?  what are the reasons for the non- rally during those times?  there are different level of dissecting data.  Are you just seeing what you want to see and subconciously blocking out the other details?
onionknight ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 10:11) Posted:
yeah assume what you say is true and the chinese delay payments till last minute
but the historical data says otherwise
so unless you can find any fact that supports your claim that the chinese investors always cash out before new year
what you say is just rub-bish
Luzern ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 10:07) Posted:
| You have no idea how the Chinese Retailers trade the markets do you........... most of them are  like good Accountants, ......delay payments for as long as possible, especially when their cash are tied in the markets.  However, like you say, there are the prudent ones...who paid up much earlier.  My advice, go talk to your Chinese friends who are big into investment, see how they invest |
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Some of the Chinese Investors thinking....... " If I made it through, I will be King (Dragon).  If I failed, I can always make a come back years later.  If I don' t tried (take the risk) I will forever be stuck in my (current) misearable position." They are usually heavily leveraged...... do or die, " Break the pot, sink the ship.  No retreat path, can only go forward, break throuht or die trying."  
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You have no idea how the Chinese Retailers trade the markets do you........... most of them are  like good Accountants, ......delay payments for as long as possible, especially when their cash are tied in the markets.  However, like you say, there are the prudent ones...who paid up much earlier.  My advice, go talk to your Chinese friends who are big into investment, see how they invest.
onionknight ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 09:59) Posted:
This is lousy excuse indeed... bro you think house and cars like fish in the market? the cny is one week away la. want to buy would have bought long ago
To avoid getting caught in the crash bit might be true
but you think the chinese government will allow their stock crash while the entire nation is celebrating the biggest festival of the year?
  if you look at the historical data
most of the time before and after CNY the index is always on the rise.
so yeah, think a bit before you write.
Luzern ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 08:57) Posted:
| Here' s  some lousy excuses why HSI and SH will be down today........... Most of the 100s millions investors are cashing out their stocks to buy that new car or house to celebrate chinese new year and of course they don' t want to be caught with a crash in the West over the CNY period which they can' t trade.......... Haha.  |
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Chill Bro.  We are just brain storming here.  My sharing sure beats the " under garment" comments.
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Just some of the " dumb" excuses we came up with last night over some drinks, good views and excellent company.
Luzern ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 08:57) Posted:
| Here' s  some lousy excuses why HSI and SH will be down today........... Most of the 100s millions investors are cashing out their stocks to buy that new car or house to celebrate chinese new year and of course they don' t want to be caught with a crash in the West over the CNY period which they can' t trade.......... Haha.  |
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Looks like a repeat of yeterday pattern on the STI.
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IMO the Funds  trading in  HSI & SH  will also take a cautious stand and scale back their position over the CNY period to advoid being caught in a crash.
Luzern ( Date: 08-Feb-2018 08:57) Posted:
| Here' s  some lousy excuses why HSI and SH will be down today........... Most of the 100s millions investors are cashing out their stocks to buy that new car or house to celebrate chinese new year and of course they don' t want to be caught with a crash in the West over the CNY period which they can' t trade.......... Haha.  |
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Here' s  some lousy excuses why HSI and SH will be down today........... Most of the 100s millions investors are cashing out their stocks to buy that new car or house to celebrate chinese new year and of course they don' t want to be caught with a crash in the West over the CNY period which they can' t trade.......... Haha. 
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Time for a drink, do  some PR and claiming of favours for advices given.  Cheers!
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For those who " catch no ball" ..... here' s a simple explaination on EW Theory.
http://www.rookietrader.com/learn-to-trade/elliot-wave/
Luzern ( Date: 07-Feb-2018 15:58) Posted:
So yah, I am still doing what I did for the past 2 days.  And I intend to keep some of my HSI position overnight in anticipation of  Dow doing a  EW 3.  I could be wrong though. 
Luzern ( Date: 07-Feb-2018 15:54) Posted:
| I am still Bear on the market as I believe that there is a shift in the fundamental of the markets......... IMO what we are seeing on last Friday  was the  start of the  Elliott Wave down trend.  this will probably be featured in the Algo. |
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Where on the chart are we at now....?
Luzern ( Date: 07-Feb-2018 13:14) Posted:
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The Banks seems to be sharing my view as well.  Just look at the way they are  " making" the market for the HSI warrants.
Luzern ( Date: 07-Feb-2018 15:58) Posted:
So yah, I am still doing what I did for the past 2 days.  And I intend to keep some of my HSI position overnight in anticipation of  Dow doing a  EW 3.  I could be wrong though. 
Luzern ( Date: 07-Feb-2018 15:54) Posted:
| I am still Bear on the market as I believe that there is a shift in the fundamental of the markets......... IMO what we are seeing on last Friday  was the  start of the  Elliott Wave down trend.  this will probably be featured in the Algo. |
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So yah, I am still doing what I did for the past 2 days.  And I intend to keep some of my HSI position overnight in anticipation of  Dow doing a  EW 3.  I could be wrong though. 
Luzern ( Date: 07-Feb-2018 15:54) Posted:
| I am still Bear on the market as I believe that there is a shift in the fundamental of the markets......... IMO what we are seeing on last Friday  was the  start of the  Elliott Wave down trend.  this will probably be featured in the Algo. |
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I am still Bear on the market as I believe that there is a shift in the fundamental of the markets......... IMO what we are seeing on last Friday  was the  start of the  Elliott Wave down trend.  this will probably be featured in the Algo.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/how-not-to-invest-2014-4/?IR=T
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I also like to refer to " Buyers Emotional Cycle" charts when trading pennies.
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