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I will finalize & end my temporarily prediction (Rise of the Wind) today. All the best!

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:13) Posted:

As i was sleeping, i received some request.
So, after looking. I will give some outlook for a while.

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Moo Hahaha!!!

earlybird14 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:30) Posted:

Lol. Again you want to be funny just go ahead. Don't quote me. I stay neutral on Wilmar long term run. In short term, moving average of 5, 10 and 20 days are downtrend. This can be easily obtain from any chart reading tools.

Again, want to be funny, go ahead, don't quote me in your funny battle.

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:26) Posted:

I disagree with your comment, as there is no start & enddate on your comment.
Kindly note that all my prediction have opening & closing.
As such, your statement have no ending & is seen as valid in public eyes. This is MetalTrader, & I disagree with your statements!

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Today is the day to define GodOfPredictor vs Crap.

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:34) Posted:

Prediction shall begin & continue..

Let ignore earlybird14 (One who posted but did not end own statement, later claimed neutral)
As such, Earlybird14 statement have no validity & substainability.

The trading realm do not need crap!

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Dear NOL Mgmt,
Always amass ignorant 1st, be patient before you apply SWIFT.

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This poem is the destiny of NOL.
NOL Management is doing well.
Wait & Let Darkness fall 1st :)

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:04) Posted:

The ignorant shall amass,
NOL Destiny can then be fulfilled.

~ Poem by MetalTrader

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19 March Mid Day- Currently @ $3.23

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:22) Posted:

Wilmar Prediction (Rise of the Wind)
[Temporarily Prediction- as requested]
19 Mar before opening- Wilmar @ $3.20 I predict that there will be uptrend, a likelihood of reaching within ($3.23 to $3.25) range within 2 days.

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Nice Song (Changmin (아 티 스 트 ) - Moment), Enjoy!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93n5njUDl1I& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg& index=10

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:22) Posted:

Wilmar Prediction (Rise of the Wind)
[Temporarily Prediction- as requested]
19 Mar before opening- Wilmar @ $3.20 I predict that there will be uptrend, a likelihood of reaching within ($3.23 to $3.25) range within 2 days.

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Prediction shall begin & continue..

Let ignore earlybird14 (One who posted but did not end own statement, later claimed neutral)
As such, Earlybird14 statement have no validity & substainability.

The trading realm do not need crap!

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I disagree with your comment, as there is no start & enddate on your comment.
Kindly note that all my prediction have opening & closing.
As such, your statement have no ending & is seen as valid in public eyes. This is MetalTrader, & I disagree with your statements!

earlybird14 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:22) Posted:

Lol. This is the comments based on last few day trading. Don't quote my post and poo. You want to be funny, just go ahead. I stay neutral on Wilmar.

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 19-Mar-2015 07:15) Posted:

Number 1- I disagree with Earlybird14 on downtrend, & lack of knowledge of Wilmar and Jardine to put together as comparison.

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Wilmar Prediction (Rise of the Wind)
[Temporarily Prediction- as requested]
19 Mar before opening- Wilmar @ $3.20 I predict that there will be uptrend, a likelihood of reaching within ($3.23 to $3.25) range within 2 days.

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Number 1- I disagree with Earlybird14 on downtrend, & lack of knowledge of Wilmar and Jardine to put together as comparison.

earlybird14 ( Date: 12-Mar-2015 10:37) Posted:

Turn down trend liao. open high close low. like Jardine pattern.

Heero78 ( Date: 11-Mar-2015 16:25) Posted:

no choice. bite the bullet. $3.15 is finale....if close below it, i cut loss....

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As i was sleeping, i received some request.
So, after looking. I will give some outlook for a while.

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The ignorant shall amass,
NOL Destiny can then be fulfilled.

~ Poem by MetalTrader

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Dear NOL Mgmt, remember that your destiny can only be fulfilled with ignorant proven 1st. Kindly remember the words I gave you for your 2nd half destiny.

Albedo management failed due to not taking my advice. F&N management succeded because of taking my advice. NOL management succeded halfway because of taking half of my advice.

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1 Typo Error: Last Date is 11 Jan 2014

MetalTrader3 ( Date: 18-Mar-2015 02:09) Posted:

Updated of a clearer & shorter version

F& N prediction of Event Unfolding before it happens:
11 Nov- F& N closed at $5.77.
I forecasted that market default doesn' t affect anything. As more bondholders resist, the more attractive F& N stock appears to shareholders. Because of the switch acquisition by Charoen, he unlocked the profitability in the F & N and distributed to all shareholders. [At this point, a lot people feared if F& N will default?]

14 Nov- I reemphasized that I can' t find a better person than Charoen. Profits are shared.
Look at VardHolding, & its a different case. After acquisition, no dividend.

16 Nov- I debated with Teeth53 & provided valuable information.
One of the biggest shareholder, Charoen, is just restructuring its debts due to paid at $9.50 at the price when buying F & N shares. The issuance of 2 FCL shares per F& N share, is to increase Charoen value & thereby also increasing shareholders value.Bondholders resistance will be little of significant as 100% of all shareholders passed meeting of issuing 2 FCL per F& N share. (2 Days Later from my 11 Nov Prediction)

Do you think 2 FCL + 1 F& N share will be less or more than current price? (I give hints but nobody took it seriously)

Despite several persistence by Teeth53, I reanswered:
The market only holds % lower than biggest shareholders. Majority% still lies in biggest shareholders. If vested players, consist of minor shareholding % battling out, while future value being unlocked is imminent.
Who will benefit most?

Teeth53 argued on the debt restricting, I answered:
Debt restructure is the debt F& N boss loaned to buy. The basic structure of beverage, property, printing remains intact and is profitable. The bone you talking about is the spliting of FCL, while the meat remains intact (FCL & Beverage + Printing) at shareholders hands. As FCL + F& N still belongs to shareholders. It only undermine bondholders. Overall, value unlocked means profitability to F& N boss and Shareholders.

Teeth53 questioned another volatile in play?, I answered:
The market will not be a deciding factor. The F& N boss' s decision will.
The value of F& N is going to be unlocked, and the future prospect will depend on how majority of F& N biggest boss and majority of FCL biggest boss manage their business. F& N will probably try restructure bondholders by paying them $$$ and discontinue loan (Prediction before happen), thus reducing company loans. In share, majority of shareholders have biggest say but not bondholders.

Teeth53 reargued that " ThaiBev (Y92.SG) and TCC Assets, with a combined 90.3% (F& N stake), have until July 19 to restore the free float." I answered:
Because the Combined % from largest amounted to 90.3%, the biggest beneficial will be ThaiBev and TCC Assets.
The next will be remaining 9.7% of market will still benefit. Strategic review is meant for future operating, and Unlocking value likely to happen in near-term.(Accurately predict Unlocking Value before it happen)

Teeth53 reargued that Myanmar military issue & Disposal of APB issue, I reanswered:
If NAV is $8.80, why do largest shareholder buy at $9.50?
If largest shareholder do not have confident business in F& N' s benefits will cover $9.50, he wouldn' t be buying.
So at even the current price of $5.80, you are still buying lesser than the largest shareholder. (Accurately predict F& N rising Value before it happen) If largest shareholder have nothing to fear, why should minor shareholder fear?

The theory is simple, the largest shareholder combined percentage hit 90%. Do you think the remaining 10% will affect the outcome? The profitability depends on largest shareholder' s decision, and it will be imminent unlocking of value 2 FCL begins before public buying take place. (Accurately predict when F& N buying take place before it happen)

17 Nov- I reemphasized that:
This battle is not player vs player, as merely 10%. Its a battle Combined 2 Shareholders (90%) taking steps to improve their value, & unlocking further potential to benefit them (they are biggest beneficial), thereby also benefiting the small shareholders (10%)

BondHolders are merely lending money, Shareholders got enough fund from retained earning to give them back. If you are not aware, Cash Earning is almost 1 billion a year. For 2014 dividend of 0.12, approximately 2 billion had been for forkout from retained earning to distribute to shareholder.

Teeth, as you refused the truth that giving of 2FCL, but it will be imminent. (Accurately predict 2FCL issuing will be imminent before it happens)

Mr. Charoen intends to reduce his stake to a range to 88%, from 90.3% currently. (Accurately predict reduction Charoen will reduce stake to 88%)
To comply with SGX rule for listing FCL in which 12% must be obtained in the hands of public.
So situation now is
Public: 9.7%
Buyer-Charoen sold to: 2.3%
Mr Charoen: 88%
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304799404579152810197413736

Fraser and Neave is looking to buy back or redeem S$808.25 million worth of bonds. (Event of BondBuying intention was announced which was predicted previously)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/singapore/f-n-bondholders-face/884288.html

The consent exercise for F& N bondholders ends on Tuesday, and there are six bonds the company wants to redeem. If bondholders fail to approve the spin-off and the company proceeds with it, this would trigger a technical default and allow creditors to demand immediate repayment of the bonds at par value. The situation is also complicated as there are six different tranches of bonds at stake

My Opinion: BondHolder issue can be resolved by $$$. (I firmly hold my prediction)
Whether or not BondHolder approve, F& N can proceed by redeeming back the bonds by payment back immediately.

BondHolder can delay the listing of 2 FCL, but cannot impact the outcome. (I predicted the future)
Ultimately, if bondholders disagree. BondHolder can sue, but F& N can buy back bonds at par value.
In the end, it won' t do BondHolder good, as interest is missed out.

Currently, the stock of F& N is precious as only 9.7% is owned by public.
This determines only small % of people will benefit from this spinoff, however it is not impossible for those who have position in F& N. (I predicted who will benefits from F& N spinoff)

My prediction is that those who buy F& N, will gain sustain benefits once the spinoff of 2FCL begins.
1 F& N + 2 FCL ' s value is certainly to be more than $6. (I predicted the future value)

FYI: $6 is only a minimum line.
I already have the value of 1 F& N + 2 FCL in mind. I will not speak off, as it up to different people holding 1 F& N & 2 FCL to decide, at what time is best and most appropriate to sell. It can stretch way further than $6, depends on how you strategize these 3 stocks @ what time.

Kindly note all my information is used as reference, & not to be used in anybody buy or sell.

He is forced to reduce, not he intend to reduce. Because listing of FCL will require 12% to be maintained in hands of Public. Thus 90.3% to 88% is confirm. (I give assurance before announcement was made on 12 Dec)

18 Nov-
There is one other point worth noting: The revelation by F& N chairman Lee Hsien Yang, together with board members Timothy Chia, Tan Chong Meng and Nicky Tan, that they plan to hold onto their shares unless Charoen?s offer turns unconditional. All these suggest that even at S$8.88 a share, there may still be value to be unlocked in F& N shares.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/More-value-to-be-unlocked-in-F& N-shares-30192217.html

1 Dec-

FYI: 100%-12%= 88% (Maximum he can hold)
His total state 90.3% to 88% (Difference 2.3%)

He is forced to reduce, not he intend to reduce. Because listing of FCL will require 12% to be maintained in hands of Public. Thus 90.3% to 88% is confirm. (I re-give assurance before announcement was made on 12 Dec)

Out of 5 bondholders, only 2 bondholders opposed.
On 29 Nov, a re-meeting is scheduled & F& N fully paid the 2 bondholders with interests.
So now, bond issue are resolved on 29 Nov.(Prediction of Future Event Actualized)

4 Dec- i foresee huge room for F& N share price to grow..(Prediction of Future Share Price Growth)
- The 2 FCL waiting to be released
- The 2014 dividend waiting to be released
- Hospital Trusts waiting to be released

The decision of biggest shareholders will be a key to F& N share price.

6 Dec- Hospital Trust would be in 2014 onward, as details haven' t been covered by largest shareholder yet.
This will most likely add value to the earnings of F& N. If to give to shareholder, it is up to largest shareholder' s decision.

11 Dec- F& N destiny depends on biggest shareholder decision. Unlocking of 2 FCL should be expedited to serve shareholders well. (Prediction of 2FCL to be expedited before it happen for best value)

12 Dec- The biggest shareholder, CHAROEN, had finally reduced total share to 87.93%, allowing 12% public float for the listing of 2 FCL. It is wise that 2 FCL be as fast as possible to implement to create the best, & highest profit valuation of F& N + 2 FCL. It is best to be implemented within 1 week from today.(Prediction of best valuation but largest shareholder was a bit later)

14 Dec- It is best the largest shareholder announce the implementation 2 FCL swiftly. Any delay will affect the overall valuation & Any swift implementation will bring the overall valuation to the best valuation.

18 Dec- F& N overall valuation continues to lie in the hands of largest shareholder.
There is hesitation as well as a need to implement release of 2 FCL- Duration of implementation will affect overall valuation. There is a possible trend of slowly recovering F& N price.

I continue to maintain my forecast of the value of 1 F& N + 2 FCL = $6/ Higher. Thus, F& N price remains a fairly attractive price. Among all the big cap stocks, F& N remains well positioned in market & is fairly solid with future potential value untapped.

24 Dec- It will be actualized soon. $6 is minimum as predicted, while the maximum is unknown.
As forecasted, & its potential is waiting to be shown. F& N remains the best among all big cap stocks.
Market closed at $5.97
My prediction (17 Nov)- Those who buy F& N, will gain sustain benefits once the spinoff of 2FCL begins. 1 F& N + 2 FCL ' s value is certainly to be more than $6.
26 Dec before market open- I forecasted F& N share price is expected to leap upward beyond $6 and higher.
26 Dec Closing- F& N closed at $6.20
27 Dec before market open- I forecasted F& N share price to rise higher
27 Dec Closing- F& N closed at $6.38
28 Dec- I forecast on 30 Dec- many people will have mixed view & take different position. So, Each to his own. Certainly, my view is hold.
There may be fall or rise of F& N price. I revealed the ultimate prediction:

- 2FCL must keep
The value of $1 each, is not a fixed price, & will rise very hugely in future

- At end will have 2 FCL (with rising value) + 1 F& N

- After having 2 FCL, each will have to decide if to keep F& N.
--> As further events of $0.45 (dividends) to be announced + $0.12 (dividends) on Feb.
--> Will biggest shareholders unlock more profits? [Hospital Trust and how it will boost F& N business]

--> For those that trust biggest shareholder business ability- its best to hold
For those that don' t trust biggest shareholder business ability- its best to sell

For those that follow through this set of F& N ultimate prediction, you are on the safe track.
As the ultimate prediction are revealed.

29 Dec:

BET with Wang Si Tong + Starlene (Valid on Monday only- 30/12/2013)
Next, i have a bet with Wang Si Tong on Monday 30th Dec 2013 result
I quoted 3 times above his " so called Nav" [More than 3x of Wang Si Tong NAV $1.695]= $5.08 - $6.20 range/ higher
I indicated Wang Si Tong calculation NAV result for monday is wrong, & Wang Si Tong made a big mistake by selling F& N for some profits.
2FCL benefits- he will miss out
2014 benefits- depends on individual decision
[Dividends + Possibility of Take Over will benefit shareholder further (if it happens) ]

If my bet against Wang Si Tong failed- I will personally delete " Metal Trader" and not to give any prediction from Monday. [However provocative remark made by Stockpro & Starlene revived the thread]. Wang Si Tong gracefully confirmed that no agreement was made.

30 Dec- After XE, Market hit a $4.08 high & closed 3.49. (2x above " so called NAV" )
Wang Si Tong won the bet gracefully. While, for Starlene add in provocative remark but was forgiven since he won 1 bet.
On 30 Dec closing- i claimed that F& N price will rise 3x above " so called NAV" , above $5.08.
31 Dec- Market 230K lot selling on 30 Dec was wiped out on 31 Dec, with all shares being bought up by individual shareholders.
Market closed a high of $3.63 & inched higher at $3.50.

11 Jan 2015
Even after all the fear- F& N (Price after EX- current $3.47) + 2 FCL (Price after 1st day EX- $1.52 x2 = $3.04) = $$6.51
Even those that bought in at highest point before F& N @ $6.38, managed to profit.

I once said that F& N will make profit & give that hold/ sell position (2 choice) in Ultimate Prediction 1, but 2FCL must keep.
Current F& N and 2 FCL is even higher than those that sell.

Profit is made to those that bought F& N, before 2 FCL released. I came to end my prediction on F& N.

http://www.sharejunction.com/sharejunction/listMessage.htm?topicId=4878& recordCount=100
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soundblaster ( Date: 17-Mar-2015 17:51) Posted:

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I will be taking a long break, till then i hope that there will be someone that is qualified (with proven track record) to be my challenger :)
For the idiom says there will be someone that is higher than another :)

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Dear All,
If you can find anyone that is higher skill than me (With proven record- Price Prediction b4 market open with specific timeframe)
Kindly ask him to find MetalTrader & issue a friendly match. I, MetalTrader, will welcome any challenger with proven record!

Nice Song, Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDb80KoTQrA& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg& index=46

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My previous account range from MetalTrader to MetalTrader2 to MetalTrader3
Predictions are mostly success, predicted multiple downfall & uprise of multiple stocks.
If you want count my accuracy- Kindly go through every single predictions and make a %.

If you can find another person that is more accurate with given & specific timeframe. Come & tell me / Can issue me a direct challenge with proven track record (Those without specific timeframe from opening & closing do not count- My prediction before stock market open, not during stock market like those fake predictors) :)

My % should be estimated the highest in sharejunction!

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Albedo 1st to 6th Prediction: Success (Too troublesome to find previous link)

Albedo 7th Prediction ended @ a loss, but avoided another 50% losses:
Advanced Notification given on 28 Apr, also again 9 Sep around $0.015 to $0.016
Today 18 Mar 2015 @ $0.08- Albedo is half of the value from where notification is given though ended at a loss- Avoided another 50% loss (Due to company do not revamp its property contract)

28 Apr 2014:

Each have to make own decision (option 1 or 2) that may impact portfolio. Current price beneath its fair value, however if company do not revamp its property contract management it will serve as a downfall to its value. I maintain option 1 (hold & wait above fair value), but urge individual to make own decision (1 or 2).

 9 Sep 2014:

After evaluation, sell of albedo is initiated at a loss. As said previously, " company failure to revamp its property contract will serve as downfall to its value" .

Reasons:
1) Poor Management (Failure of Property RTO & contract management)
2) 1st half of financial sheet profit $500, 000 is from sale of warrants (issuance of shares to sustain business)
3) Poor Business Enterprise
4) Restricted stock (can only buy/sell through broker)

Prediction ended (7th prediction of albedo) @ a loss.

*Above represent my own view, pls do not buy/sell based on my view.

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Updated of a clearer & shorter version

F& N prediction of Event Unfolding before it happens:
11 Nov- F& N closed at $5.77.
I forecasted that market default doesn' t affect anything. As more bondholders resist, the more attractive F& N stock appears to shareholders. Because of the switch acquisition by Charoen, he unlocked the profitability in the F & N and distributed to all shareholders. [At this point, a lot people feared if F& N will default?]

14 Nov- I reemphasized that I can' t find a better person than Charoen. Profits are shared.
Look at VardHolding, & its a different case. After acquisition, no dividend.

16 Nov- I debated with Teeth53 & provided valuable information.
One of the biggest shareholder, Charoen, is just restructuring its debts due to paid at $9.50 at the price when buying F & N shares. The issuance of 2 FCL shares per F& N share, is to increase Charoen value & thereby also increasing shareholders value.Bondholders resistance will be little of significant as 100% of all shareholders passed meeting of issuing 2 FCL per F& N share. (2 Days Later from my 11 Nov Prediction)

Do you think 2 FCL + 1 F& N share will be less or more than current price? (I give hints but nobody took it seriously)

Despite several persistence by Teeth53, I reanswered:
The market only holds % lower than biggest shareholders. Majority% still lies in biggest shareholders. If vested players, consist of minor shareholding % battling out, while future value being unlocked is imminent.
Who will benefit most?

Teeth53 argued on the debt restricting, I answered:
Debt restructure is the debt F& N boss loaned to buy. The basic structure of beverage, property, printing remains intact and is profitable. The bone you talking about is the spliting of FCL, while the meat remains intact (FCL & Beverage + Printing) at shareholders hands. As FCL + F& N still belongs to shareholders. It only undermine bondholders. Overall, value unlocked means profitability to F& N boss and Shareholders.

Teeth53 questioned another volatile in play?, I answered:
The market will not be a deciding factor. The F& N boss' s decision will.
The value of F& N is going to be unlocked, and the future prospect will depend on how majority of F& N biggest boss and majority of FCL biggest boss manage their business. F& N will probably try restructure bondholders by paying them $$$ and discontinue loan (Prediction before happen), thus reducing company loans. In share, majority of shareholders have biggest say but not bondholders.

Teeth53 reargued that " ThaiBev (Y92.SG) and TCC Assets, with a combined 90.3% (F& N stake), have until July 19 to restore the free float." I answered:
Because the Combined % from largest amounted to 90.3%, the biggest beneficial will be ThaiBev and TCC Assets.
The next will be remaining 9.7% of market will still benefit. Strategic review is meant for future operating, and Unlocking value likely to happen in near-term.(Accurately predict Unlocking Value before it happen)

Teeth53 reargued that Myanmar military issue & Disposal of APB issue, I reanswered:
If NAV is $8.80, why do largest shareholder buy at $9.50?
If largest shareholder do not have confident business in F& N' s benefits will cover $9.50, he wouldn' t be buying.
So at even the current price of $5.80, you are still buying lesser than the largest shareholder. (Accurately predict F& N rising Value before it happen) If largest shareholder have nothing to fear, why should minor shareholder fear?

The theory is simple, the largest shareholder combined percentage hit 90%. Do you think the remaining 10% will affect the outcome? The profitability depends on largest shareholder' s decision, and it will be imminent unlocking of value 2 FCL begins before public buying take place. (Accurately predict when F& N buying take place before it happen)

17 Nov- I reemphasized that:
This battle is not player vs player, as merely 10%. Its a battle Combined 2 Shareholders (90%) taking steps to improve their value, & unlocking further potential to benefit them (they are biggest beneficial), thereby also benefiting the small shareholders (10%)

BondHolders are merely lending money, Shareholders got enough fund from retained earning to give them back. If you are not aware, Cash Earning is almost 1 billion a year. For 2014 dividend of 0.12, approximately 2 billion had been for forkout from retained earning to distribute to shareholder.

Teeth, as you refused the truth that giving of 2FCL, but it will be imminent. (Accurately predict 2FCL issuing will be imminent before it happens)

Mr. Charoen intends to reduce his stake to a range to 88%, from 90.3% currently. (Accurately predict reduction Charoen will reduce stake to 88%)
To comply with SGX rule for listing FCL in which 12% must be obtained in the hands of public.
So situation now is
Public: 9.7%
Buyer-Charoen sold to: 2.3%
Mr Charoen: 88%
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304799404579152810197413736

Fraser and Neave is looking to buy back or redeem S$808.25 million worth of bonds. (Event of BondBuying intention was announced which was predicted previously)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/singapore/f-n-bondholders-face/884288.html

The consent exercise for F& N bondholders ends on Tuesday, and there are six bonds the company wants to redeem. If bondholders fail to approve the spin-off and the company proceeds with it, this would trigger a technical default and allow creditors to demand immediate repayment of the bonds at par value. The situation is also complicated as there are six different tranches of bonds at stake

My Opinion: BondHolder issue can be resolved by $$$. (I firmly hold my prediction)
Whether or not BondHolder approve, F& N can proceed by redeeming back the bonds by payment back immediately.

BondHolder can delay the listing of 2 FCL, but cannot impact the outcome. (I predicted the future)
Ultimately, if bondholders disagree. BondHolder can sue, but F& N can buy back bonds at par value.
In the end, it won' t do BondHolder good, as interest is missed out.

Currently, the stock of F& N is precious as only 9.7% is owned by public.
This determines only small % of people will benefit from this spinoff, however it is not impossible for those who have position in F& N. (I predicted who will benefits from F& N spinoff)

My prediction is that those who buy F& N, will gain sustain benefits once the spinoff of 2FCL begins.
1 F& N + 2 FCL ' s value is certainly to be more than $6. (I predicted the future value)

FYI: $6 is only a minimum line.
I already have the value of 1 F& N + 2 FCL in mind. I will not speak off, as it up to different people holding 1 F& N & 2 FCL to decide, at what time is best and most appropriate to sell. It can stretch way further than $6, depends on how you strategize these 3 stocks @ what time.

Kindly note all my information is used as reference, & not to be used in anybody buy or sell.

He is forced to reduce, not he intend to reduce. Because listing of FCL will require 12% to be maintained in hands of Public. Thus 90.3% to 88% is confirm. (I give assurance before announcement was made on 12 Dec)

18 Nov-
There is one other point worth noting: The revelation by F& N chairman Lee Hsien Yang, together with board members Timothy Chia, Tan Chong Meng and Nicky Tan, that they plan to hold onto their shares unless Charoen?s offer turns unconditional. All these suggest that even at S$8.88 a share, there may still be value to be unlocked in F& N shares.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/More-value-to-be-unlocked-in-F& N-shares-30192217.html

1 Dec-

FYI: 100%-12%= 88% (Maximum he can hold)
His total state 90.3% to 88% (Difference 2.3%)

He is forced to reduce, not he intend to reduce. Because listing of FCL will require 12% to be maintained in hands of Public. Thus 90.3% to 88% is confirm. (I re-give assurance before announcement was made on 12 Dec)

Out of 5 bondholders, only 2 bondholders opposed.
On 29 Nov, a re-meeting is scheduled & F& N fully paid the 2 bondholders with interests.
So now, bond issue are resolved on 29 Nov.(Prediction of Future Event Actualized)

4 Dec- i foresee huge room for F& N share price to grow..(Prediction of Future Share Price Growth)
- The 2 FCL waiting to be released
- The 2014 dividend waiting to be released
- Hospital Trusts waiting to be released

The decision of biggest shareholders will be a key to F& N share price.

6 Dec- Hospital Trust would be in 2014 onward, as details haven' t been covered by largest shareholder yet.
This will most likely add value to the earnings of F& N. If to give to shareholder, it is up to largest shareholder' s decision.

11 Dec- F& N destiny depends on biggest shareholder decision. Unlocking of 2 FCL should be expedited to serve shareholders well. (Prediction of 2FCL to be expedited before it happen for best value)

12 Dec- The biggest shareholder, CHAROEN, had finally reduced total share to 87.93%, allowing 12% public float for the listing of 2 FCL. It is wise that 2 FCL be as fast as possible to implement to create the best, & highest profit valuation of F& N + 2 FCL. It is best to be implemented within 1 week from today.(Prediction of best valuation but largest shareholder was a bit later)

14 Dec- It is best the largest shareholder announce the implementation 2 FCL swiftly. Any delay will affect the overall valuation & Any swift implementation will bring the overall valuation to the best valuation.

18 Dec- F& N overall valuation continues to lie in the hands of largest shareholder.
There is hesitation as well as a need to implement release of 2 FCL- Duration of implementation will affect overall valuation. There is a possible trend of slowly recovering F& N price.

I continue to maintain my forecast of the value of 1 F& N + 2 FCL = $6/ Higher. Thus, F& N price remains a fairly attractive price. Among all the big cap stocks, F& N remains well positioned in market & is fairly solid with future potential value untapped.

24 Dec- It will be actualized soon. $6 is minimum as predicted, while the maximum is unknown.
As forecasted, & its potential is waiting to be shown. F& N remains the best among all big cap stocks.
Market closed at $5.97
My prediction (17 Nov)- Those who buy F& N, will gain sustain benefits once the spinoff of 2FCL begins. 1 F& N + 2 FCL ' s value is certainly to be more than $6.
26 Dec before market open- I forecasted F& N share price is expected to leap upward beyond $6 and higher.
26 Dec Closing- F& N closed at $6.20
27 Dec before market open- I forecasted F& N share price to rise higher
27 Dec Closing- F& N closed at $6.38
28 Dec- I forecast on 30 Dec- many people will have mixed view & take different position. So, Each to his own. Certainly, my view is hold.
There may be fall or rise of F& N price. I revealed the ultimate prediction:

- 2FCL must keep
The value of $1 each, is not a fixed price, & will rise very hugely in future

- At end will have 2 FCL (with rising value) + 1 F& N

- After having 2 FCL, each will have to decide if to keep F& N.
--> As further events of $0.45 (dividends) to be announced + $0.12 (dividends) on Feb.
--> Will biggest shareholders unlock more profits? [Hospital Trust and how it will boost F& N business]

--> For those that trust biggest shareholder business ability- its best to hold
For those that don' t trust biggest shareholder business ability- its best to sell

For those that follow through this set of F& N ultimate prediction, you are on the safe track.
As the ultimate prediction are revealed.

29 Dec:

BET with Wang Si Tong + Starlene (Valid on Monday only- 30/12/2013)
Next, i have a bet with Wang Si Tong on Monday 30th Dec 2013 result
I quoted 3 times above his " so called Nav" [More than 3x of Wang Si Tong NAV $1.695]= $5.08 - $6.20 range/ higher
I indicated Wang Si Tong calculation NAV result for monday is wrong, & Wang Si Tong made a big mistake by selling F& N for some profits.
2FCL benefits- he will miss out
2014 benefits- depends on individual decision
[Dividends + Possibility of Take Over will benefit shareholder further (if it happens) ]

If my bet against Wang Si Tong failed- I will personally delete " Metal Trader" and not to give any prediction from Monday. [However provocative remark made by Stockpro & Starlene revived the thread]. Wang Si Tong gracefully confirmed that no agreement was made.

30 Dec- After XE, Market hit a $4.08 high & closed 3.49. (2x above " so called NAV" )
Wang Si Tong won the bet gracefully. While, for Starlene add in provocative remark but was forgiven since he won 1 bet.
On 30 Dec closing- i claimed that F& N price will rise 3x above " so called NAV" , above $5.08.
31 Dec- Market 230K lot selling on 30 Dec was wiped out on 31 Dec, with all shares being bought up by individual shareholders.
Market closed a high of $3.63 & inched higher at $3.50.

11 Jan 2015
Even after all the fear- F& N (Price after EX- current $3.47) + 2 FCL (Price after 1st day EX- $1.52 x2 = $3.04) = $$6.51
Even those that bought in at highest point before F& N @ $6.38, managed to profit.

I once said that F& N will make profit & give that hold/ sell position (2 choice) in Ultimate Prediction 1, but 2FCL must keep.
Current F& N and 2 FCL is even higher than those that sell.

Profit is made to those that bought F& N, before 2 FCL released. I came to end my prediction on F& N.

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