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06-Feb-2013 06:38 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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I get my share at 0.975, will follow you to queue at 0.95 which is the breakout point for long term downtrend. But chances of getting it maybe as low as 20%~25%.

As currently the reversal trend show the slight higher low for RSI and clear higher low for stochastic, and CCI is narrowing.





 

NoMoney      ( Date: 06-Feb-2013 05:58) Posted:

Good buy if it goes down to 0.95

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05-Feb-2013 20:30 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Xinfu will be a good steps for Yangzijiang to further step into the offshore industries, Yang should be a strong competitor to keppel or sembcorb if it really step in and stand strong.

cheongsl      ( Date: 05-Feb-2013 20:18) Posted:



ACQUISITION OF THE REMAINING 40% OF THE EQUITY INTEREST IN THE CAPITAL OF SHANGHAI HENGGAO SHIPS DESIGN CO., LTD 

ACQUISITION OF ADDITIONAL 20% OF THE EQUITY INTEREST IN THE CAPITAL OF JIANGSU YANGZI XINFU SHIPBUILDING CO., LTD

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05-Feb-2013 20:18 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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ACQUISITION OF THE REMAINING 40% OF THE EQUITY INTEREST IN THE CAPITAL OF SHANGHAI HENGGAO SHIPS DESIGN CO., LTD 

ACQUISITION OF ADDITIONAL 20% OF THE EQUITY INTEREST IN THE CAPITAL OF JIANGSU YANGZI XINFU SHIPBUILDING CO., LTD
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03-Feb-2013 08:12 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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This news previously I already mention, I am neutral as they have already received 40% of the price of the sales, which is arround current ship sales price for 2500TEU.

But I find strange with this news is that I can't find the contract award news, (internet or SGX announcement)  did anyone come across?

The other thing strange about this news is the contract price of 50million, which is around 2006 rate, in 2007 the rate already reduce to around 45million per vessel, and 2500TEU can be easily build in 1.5~2years. The news mention that the first ship was build, and the other two will be ready in May 2013. That push back to 2011 should be the contract date. But if 2007 is the contract award date, it takes  6yrs to deliver the ship is also very strange.

If this news is true, order cancellation will need to annouce, but  then SGX annoucement also did not see it, unless this cancellation is not finalise, 6yrs and still not finalise?

The other issue is this news did not appear in one of the China website that I usually visit to view the ship builder news.

terencee      ( Date: 31-Jan-2013 17:59) Posted:



Good luck to the chairman.

 

 

  According to newswires such as Tradewinds and SinoShip, Yangzijiang Shipbuilding (YZJ) has put up three abandoned 2500 TEU containerships for resale.

One of the vessels has already completed and the other two were scheduled to be completed by May this year.

We think the three vessels were originally ordered in 2007 values of such vessels were around US$50m then, but have fallen to about US$24m currently. 

Two of the five installments for each vessel have been paid up, accounting for 40% of the total contract value. With the 40% deposit, and assuming YZJ is able to sell the vessels at current prices, the difference per vessel is not substantial (~US$6m). 


Source: Tradewinds, Bloomberg

Though the above-mentioned three vessels account for a very small portion of YZJ’s order book (US$3.58b, comprising 75 vessels as at 30 Sep 2012), we are more concerned of the possibility of further cancellations. 

Recall that YZJ saw its first order cancellation in Jun 2012 (two 34,000DWT bulk carriers originally ordered by FreeSeas, but YZJ did not suffer a loss from this due to the deposit), and ceased contracts for another six 82,000DWT bulk carriers around the same period as well (three were resold, and potential buyers were being sourced for the rest).


 

luvkarena      ( Date: 31-Jan-2013 15:10) Posted:

He got 100 million shares... just bought a million... lolx


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03-Feb-2013 07:15 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Not too sure whether Yang Zi Jiang will manage to get any of the contract.

  日 前 , 有 报 道 称 印 尼 政 府 已 与 中 国 达 成 协 议 , 将 从 中 国 进 口 2500艘 船 只 , 价 值 50亿 美 元 , 将 从 2013年 开 始 进 口 , 5年 内 全 部 到 位 。
    据 悉 , 印 尼 本 次 从 中 国 进 口 的 船 只 排 水 量 在 3000-5000吨 之 间 , 将 用 于 短 程 航 线 。
    印 尼 被 称 为 “千 岛 之 国 ”, 是 世 界 上 最 大 的 海 上 国 家 , 全 国 共 有 17,000个 岛 , 全 国 有 3/2的 国 土 环 海 。 其 中 长 约 900公 里 的 马 六 甲 海 峡 连 结 亚 洲 、 中 东 和 欧 洲 , 是 沟 通 太 平 洋 与 印 度 洋 的 咽 喉 要 道 , 亚 、 非 、 澳 、 欧 沿 岸 国 家 往 来 的 重 要 海 上 通 道 , 通 过 此 水 域 的 贸 易 量 占 全 球 总 额 的 40%左 右 , 每 年 约 有 5万 多 艘 商 船 从 此 航 道 经 过 。 因 印 尼 船 厂 现 在 只 能 建 造 小 型 船 舶 , 所 以 希 望 与 中 国 船 企 合 作 在 印 尼 建 造 油 船 、 LNP船 或 建 造 5万 载 重 吨 以 下 的 其 他 船 舶 , 印 尼 期 待 中 国 船 舶 工 业 企 业 到 印 尼 独 资 或 合 资 建 立 船 舶 制 造 厂 , 建 立 船 舶 配 套 设 备 和 来 件 组 装 , 或 对 印 尼 进 行 技 术 转 让 。 目 前 , 印 尼 国 内 正 在 计 划 建 造 3000~5000艘 150~200载 重 吨 的 挖 泥 船 , 在 渡 船 和 其 它 船 舶 方 面 也 有 很 大 的 需 求 。
    世 界 银 行 此 前 发 布 报 告 称 , 印 尼 物 流 能 力 居 世 界 第 59位 , 落 后 于 菲 律 宾 、 越 南 等 区 域 国 家 。
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01-Feb-2013 07:26 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Yesterday evening news.
扬 子 江 船 业 在 2012年 造 船 市 场 低 迷 的 情 况 下 经 营 发 展 依 旧 稳 健 。
    2012年 , 新 扬 子 实 现 完 工 交 船 26艘 159.4万 载 重 吨 , 完 成 2012年 的 生 产 计 划 , 其 中 包 括 按 期 交 付 中 远 集 运 10艘 4250TEU集 装 箱 船 ; 新 开 工 30艘 , 完 成 原 计 划 的 88.2%; 下 水 28艘 , 完 成 计 划 的 93.3%。
    老 扬 子 面 临 搬 迁 , 在 面 对 人 员 不 稳 和 设 备 减 少 的 情 况 下 , 依 然 完 工 交 付 6型 共 16艘 船 34.9万 载 重 吨 ( 原 计 划 交 船 18艘 , 后 两 艘 调 整 到 春 节 前 交 付 ) , 交 船 产 值 39.5亿 元 , 开 工 5艘 , 上 船 台 12艘 , 下 水 船 舶 14艘 , 基 本 完 成 2012年 的 生 产 计 划 。
    中 舟 受 船 市 影 响 , 物 量 不 足 , 加 上 部 分 物 量 改 由 新 厂 制 作 , 全 年 计 划 完 工 物 量 12万 吨 , 实 际 完 工 83450吨 , 完 成 率 69.5%, 未 能 完 成 全 年 完 工 物 量 指 标 。 但 中 舟 公 司 扩 大 经 营 范 围 , 完 成 了 40万 吨 级 矿 砂 船 舱 口 盖 、 大 型 石 化 钢 结 构 和 环 保 除 尘 设 备 钢 结 构 等 新 型 产 品 的 制 造 。
    扬 子 鑫 福 基 建 技 改 与 自 主 生 产 并 重 。 在 2012年 完 成 了 900T龙 门 吊 的 组 装 调 试 运 行 , 吊 离 式 坞 门 制 作 并 安 装 到 位 , 并 且 在 2012年 末 还 实 现 了 万 箱 船 开 工 建 造 的 大 节 点 。
    扬 子 长 博 2012年 交 船 9艘 , 11#47500DWT船 也 在 年 底 交 付 船 东 , 预 计 全 年 实 现 销 售 收 入 5.66亿 元 , 基 本 完 成 了 董 事 会 下 达 的 经 济 指 标 。
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31-Jan-2013 12:22 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Analysis is just for fun. Queuing at 0.975.

springpig      ( Date: 31-Jan-2013 11:14) Posted:



don't analyze too much...   BB have their own way of collecting the shares.

relax and have faith if you know what you're doing.

buy more when it reaches ur target price.

for me, my target is still 95-96cents, so I would be glad if the price can drop to that range & I'll collect a batch of buy up, leaving some money for another batch if it goes down some more.   Smiley

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30-Jan-2013 18:14 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Today large volume action trade show very strange behaviour. It seems to be all are  sell action. But if you know what happen at 8:58 and 17:04, actually this are the two timming that B/S can make a different. Today action can be say quietly collecting, till the last minute I am still puzzle why no major action being done.

Until the last minute the queue to sell still have 2000 over lots at 0.995, but at 17:04, where the final close price come out it is 714lots buy at 0.995 and 960lots sell at 1.000. And check actually 3107 lots have been buy up at 0.995. 

If collecting action is in place, the price will still depend on the BB that is still collecting. Thus only when they decide to let it go then the price will move, otherwise it will still be up and down in this region.

Time Price B S Grand Total
8:58:31 1 162   162
9:12:57 1 289   289
9:13:04 1 153   153
9:46:37 1   100 100
11:33:56 1   100 100
12:09:11 0.995 123   123
12:11:39 0.995 1000   1000
12:11:40 0.995 169   169
12:31:11 0.995   100 100
13:10:32 0.995   102 102
13:17:27 0.995   114 114
15:15:06 0.99 150   150
16:01:52 0.99 200   200
16:02:08 0.99 100   100
16:02:29 0.99 100   100
16:17:31 0.99 110   110
16:26:12 0.99 134   134
16:28:45 0.995   100 100
16:41:51 0.995   100 100
16:43:10 0.99 186   186
16:44:58 0.99 150   150
16:49:34 0.99 114   114
16:59:47 0.99 103   103
16:59:48 0.99 100   100
17:04:24 0.995 3107   3107
Large Volume Action 6450 716  
Grand Total   11288 3825 15113
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30-Jan-2013 12:38 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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It is a form of tactic practice to ensure that the collected share will not be taken by die hard fans during the block. Those weak seller and shortest share will go in front the queue.

Hulumas      ( Date: 30-Jan-2013 11:47) Posted:

So, what are you trying to tell us?

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30-Jan-2013 10:52 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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500lots sell volume suddenly appear at queue at $1
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30-Jan-2013 10:46 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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saw a sudden withdrawer of 1000lots brokage at $1.
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30-Jan-2013 10:42 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Even if citi group was involve, I believe they do not have the urgency to push up the price also, as the warrant issue to them is only during 27Apr2013 after AGM.  and the expire is 2016, thus there is alot time currently for them to make the warrant attractive.
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30-Jan-2013 10:19 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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I believe nobody will be able to provide the insight, if they know about something, they can't share. Those that can share is only through guesting.

For me I believe, they should be involved in recent share movement, but how are they involve unknow, as  financial  institute will not payout something for zero returns. We  can only observe through the share movement and volume exchange, initially my thoughs was the short selling was due to BB, but after short selling clear, the price still did not move up and consolidating around this prices, and currently going through the washing action. Thus can confirm that the short sell is not a expected action by BB. They are still accumulating force before drive up, have been observing the action volume. Current buyup volume (large volume)  is still much higher then the sell down (large volume). Thus can assume they are still accumulating.

Hulumas      ( Date: 30-Jan-2013 09:27) Posted:

Does Citi involvement in YZC corporate action (Sole placement of warrant  to Citi)  take any good positive share value movement of YZJ? Care to share the information and the insight of all the forumers please. 

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29-Jan-2013 20:19 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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I am actually neutral about this news, as the price for the ship is 50m, current selling price is around 23m, and they have already received the 2 installment, usually advance payment is 15% and manufacturing is 35% assembly 20% testing 20% warranty 10%, but not too sure how is the contract payment terms is, thus even if 40% it is around 20m already pay by the customer, that means the ship are actually free to them, selling or time charter is an earning to the company. People might see it as book order reduce, but for me it is neutral depend on how the subsequent selling or time charter take place.

pseudo      ( Date: 28-Jan-2013 19:42) Posted:

Order cancellation for 3x2500teu
http://en.eshiptrading.com/news/d/221/4180/

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29-Jan-2013 20:10 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Today still show strong collection.

Time Price B S
8:58:04 1.005 214  
9:00:00 1.005 132  
9:12:02 1.005 150  
9:26:58 1.005   110
9:29:04 1.005   112
9:45:42 1 130  
10:05:53 1   100
10:32:26 1   100
10:33:24 0.995 327  
10:33:30 0.995 175  
10:44:02 0.995 101  
10:47:33 0.995 126  
14:38:30 1   200
14:38:51 1   1042
14:45:30 1 191 161
14:46:29 1   200
14:47:20 1   140
14:57:57 1   100
15:03:40 1   100
15:22:38 1   100
16:46:16 1   200
16:52:43 0.995 200  
16:54:50 0.995 200  
17:04:40 0.995   639
17:04:41 0.995   998
Large Volume Action 1946 4302
Grand Total   5624 6684
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28-Jan-2013 19:01 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Today manage to get somemore from the queue, as for aircraft carriers, I don't think Yang will try to go in, as 中 国 重 工 is doing quite well in the sector already, it will be hard to competed, thus I believe their focus will still in vessel building and oil rig platform in future. They will supply the components/ equipments   for the ship building industries inclusive of 中 国 重 工 , since they are in this buisness they will be familiar with the requirement and the components/equipments that they fabricate will be more cater to the needs of the industries. As for other sidelines like the property, I don't think they will do too well, as they are not familiar with it and they might need time to really pick it up, lucky these are not their main focus.

Hulumas      ( Date: 28-Jan-2013 11:21) Posted:

No way, as someday even several modern equiped PRC aircraft carriers will be made by YZJ, who knows?

arowana1      ( Date: 28-Jan-2013 10:10) Posted:

i loaded a bit ... hope this boat dun stall in water like stx


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28-Jan-2013 12:24 China Fishery   /   China Fishery - Low PE       Go to Message
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Break out of long term resistance and going up after some adjustment look for higher high now.

guoyanyunyan      ( Date: 12-Jan-2013 10:32) Posted:

still a lot to learn ... will be getting better at it  Smiley

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26-Jan-2013 09:59 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Cruising with the ship ..Yangzijiang       Go to Message
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Whether it will be able to attained the price of > 1.04 by next week is hard to say, but in long run should be able to attain quite a height, since BB are playing. As yesterday data BB seems still collecting. You can see the big volume trade seller exercise price volume is much bigger then the buyer. That means the action party are buying up. There are still panic seller in the market, as the BB will need to ensure that they collect enough and there are all die hard FANs in the counter before they will do any action of pushing up, otherwise, halfway it might loss it strength to push, as weak holder start to sell, and this will break their momentum, and unable to distribute at high price.

Time Price B S Grand Total
8:58:15 1.02   261 261
9:26:54 1.02   255 255
9:30:36 1.02   300 300
9:58:56 1.02 1294   1294
11:28:02 1.015 89 496 585
12:32:02 1.01 200   200
13:23:32 1.01 153   153
13:47:23 1.01 250   250
13:49:51 1.01   526 526
16:35:51 1.005 237 309 546
16:45:50 1.005 1 593 594
16:49:40 1.005 450   450
16:59:07 1.005 349   349
17:04:40 1   3522 3522
    3023 6262  
Grand Total   7428 8523 15951


Hulumas      ( Date: 25-Jan-2013 23:15) Posted:

> Sgd. 1.04 sure it will be attained at that price by next week!

oldflyingfox      ( Date: 25-Jan-2013 15:52) Posted:



it will gain strength to break $1.04 over time.


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24-Jan-2013 21:12 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Today China Ship builder news:

太 平 洋 海 洋 工 程 获 得 3+5 艘 LNG船 设 计 与 制 造 订 单

钢 铁 船 舶 将 成 治 理 产 能 过 剩 突 破 口

中 船 重 工 2012年 获 170亿 元 订 单

船 舶 与 海 工 涂 料 及 关 键 技 术 项 目 通 过 验 收

 
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24-Jan-2013 21:05 YZJ Shipbldg SGD   /   Yangzijiang Chart Updates       Go to Message
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Singapore not shipping counters not perform too good. But china one is different, although China index is down today,  but the ship building shares performance still quite good. Attached the news.

船 舶 制 造 板 块 今 日 表 现 活 跃 , 截 止 收 盘 , 船 舶 制 造 板 块 涨 2.74%, 涨 幅 居 前 。 个 股 全 线 上 涨 , 舜 天 船 舶 涨 停 领 涨 , 中 国 重 工 、 中 船 股 份 和 中 国 船 舶 涨 幅 超 过 2%, 亚 星 锚 链 、 上 海 佳 豪 和 太 阳 鸟 涨 幅 超 过 1%, 广 船 国 际 涨 0.91%涨 幅 最 少 垫 底 。

New123      ( Date: 24-Jan-2013 19:28) Posted:

Tdy shipping counters didnt perform . Stuck at current price . Will it go down Tmr

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