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I bought additional shares at 3.66 to 3.68 as the price is too good.

With the mini double bottom at 3.66 vs 3.65, we should see a rebound from now

Good Luck for long term holders.

It is time the banks buy back their shares

Last sell down culprit was UBS

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I have MCBs too. But money stuck..Kind of regret

uiop1223 ( Date: 22-Jul-2020 11:24) Posted:

Prefer debts over equity. Since temasek will ensure survival, think its better to buy MCBs. More attractive, the returns.

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Many people truely believe it is impossible for SIA to rise in the short term. I was advised to abandon SIA.
However an investor do not sell just because the short term outlook is bleak.
The difference between an investor and trader is long term vs short term.
Investor wants to buy a house cheap and always happy to buy more cheap valuable houses as he / she understands the long term capital gain - which is much more than the short term gain in trading houses.
When property crashes nobody wants to buy.
When rises, many people wants to flip property.
I see the good price to buy SIA is anything from 3.70 and below.
Today I shall queue to buy at 3.68

investor999 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 22:46) Posted:

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Here is my suggestion to SIA management: 1) Issue share option to CEO at 3.72. 2) Transfer treasury share to satisfy this option. 3) CEO takes up the option to exercise the share, taking advantage of low price to avoid taxes. 4) SIA takes the payment for its treasury shares and buy back lower price at 3.68 to 3.7 to cancel the shares so as to return value to shareholders 5) CEO has original shares to pledge to take up loan at current low interest rate. 6) CEO takes the risk while averaging his share price

investor999 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 09:53) Posted:

INDIRECTLY CEO is buying himself. You get the meaning of share opinion?

lighter87 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 09:48) Posted:

If they use tax payer money to buyback shares, sure will kena backside from left right center

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INDIRECTLY CEO is buying himself. You get the meaning of share opinion?

lighter87 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 09:48) Posted:

If they use tax payer money to buyback shares, sure will kena backside from left right center.

investor999 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 09:42) Posted:

I bet you SIA buying back shares from 3.68 to 3.7 now

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I bet you SIA buying back shares from 3.68 to 3.7 now

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Fool

uiop1223 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 09:22) Posted:

I dont care green lane, blue lane, rainbow color lane.

Fact: air travel need to wait till 2023 or 2024 to go back to pre covid level

What is worst than greatest fool? Its when one doesnt even realise he is a fool.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/airline-bankruptcies-and-job-cuts-expected-say-experts?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1595289592

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On the contrary I am adding more..I never sell

SAVIORFOREVER ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 08:59) Posted:

If you want to buy then make it short. No need to add reason for buying to incite buyer to buy.
SIA is not a cheap stock. If price dropped another 50c then your losses should be huge and you will never cut until it's rock bottom. Your investing strategy is out of date. It's time to get a financial advice from a professional.
Recovery is very slow and painful. The facts are there and you're just too stubborn to accept it .

Trade with prudence and DYODD

investor999 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 06:11) Posted:

Before you start to short SIA today as you plan, let me suggest this scenario:

1) Treasury Shares were withdrawn from CDP to issue share options for employees
2) During this period, these shares withdrawn from CDP, though has not voting value, can be pledge by SIA to borrow funds
3) The borrowed funds will be used to buy back SIA shares up to 3.70 under share buyback scheme. This in turn return shareholder value.

There you have it. SIA shares value is supported at 3.70. Any pice below 3.70 is a steal

I shall start buying today. Cheer

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1) CEO is taking on the risk

uiop1223 ( Date: 21-Jul-2020 06:28) Posted:

Share buyback after after raising so much debt and dilution? U buy so much SIA that u cannot bear to see it fall? Sounds stupid for SIA mgtm to raise money, claiming its for rainy days, than do share buy back.
Stop deceiving yourself. Its a classic example of a people who long and incur , refuse to accept a wrong bet is made and holding on to the shares and average down. Thats why there are BBs. Who they earn from? From these type of longists

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Before you start to short SIA today as you plan, let me suggest this scenario:

1) Treasury Shares were withdrawn from CDP to issue share options for employees
2) During this period, these shares withdrawn from CDP, though has not voting value, can be pledge by SIA to borrow funds
3) The borrowed funds will be used to buy back SIA shares up to 3.70 under share buyback scheme. This in turn return shareholder value.

There you have it. SIA shares value is supported at 3.70. Any pice below 3.70 is a steal

I shall start buying today. Cheers

uiop1223 ( Date: 19-Jul-2020 19:50) Posted:

Crap la. They have a plan. They have a SIA plan. They have another MCB plan 🤣 . They have further plan to destroy shareholders value. Shareholders continued to get screwed because of their plan

investor999 ( Date: 19-Jul-2020 06:49) Posted:

If we track back SIA share prices since the beginning of 1990' s, it went as high as $19 and down as low as $8. Yahoo' s chart probably had adjusted the price according to buy back' s and dilution over the years.
Though SIA is a cyclical stocks, of course it has been on a down trend since the pandemic, it had also been a good divident stock.
I don t really understand the buy backs and issuing of share options, but somehow, there are benefits to the share price.
As the share options are issued, eg now at 3.72, it gives an option for directors to buy the share at 3.72 in the future. This means 3.72 is a very good future support.
Share buy backs and issue of dividents is another way of paying shareholders.

The company can make losses, but can also pledge planes to borrow money. The base pay for its empolyees can be low and payment is via bonuses, which comes from work or through dividents in the case for directors.
The company can borrow against its assets and pay its shareholders dividents. Bear in mind Tamesek is a major shareholder and having invested huge amount in SIA, will want some returns.

There you are, we have a scheme for SIA shareholders

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Stock market is always about the greater fool.

I will rather hold and NOT to be the greatest fool

investor999 ( Date: 20-Jul-2020 18:48) Posted:

But then again 3.66 might be the lowest and today investors just capitulated. If this is the case we are seeing a real reversal. NOT 3.70 After much thoughts I am really very lost???? I don't know to buy or to sell My only decision is hold my horses and see the party. CHEERS 🍻

investor999 ( Date: 20-Jul-2020 18:34) Posted:

If tomorrow SIA crash to 3.57 would you cut loss?

I will buy below 3.58

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But then again 3.66 might be the lowest and today investors just capitulated. If this is the case we are seeing a real reversal. NOT 3.70 After much thoughts I am really very lost???? I don't know to buy or to sell My only decision is hold my horses and see the party. CHEERS 🍻

investor999 ( Date: 20-Jul-2020 18:34) Posted:

If tomorrow SIA crash to 3.57 would you cut loss?

I will buy below 3.58

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If tomorrow SIA crash to 3.57 would you cut loss?

I will buy below 3.58

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Over the weekend I spent so much time trying to explain we should hold and not to buy or sell anymore.

We were at the precarious price of 3.70.

The big boys can play it up to 3.78 or down to 3.62

Yes it chose to play it down, betting that tomorrow retail investers have to seel to them cheaper.

We just played into their trap

laughingchartist ( Date: 20-Jul-2020 17:38) Posted:

Sia isn' t doing well. The long term prospects of air travel isn' t good.
However techinicals shows that there could be a short term bounce.. In my opninion this is risky. But i' m still going to share my analysis.

Please DYODD! Further, Bloomberg analysts rating are not exactly bearish on this counter.

The DLC DSIW price reference

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Once hit 3.62 can start buying back

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Whether you are investor, trader, broker or fund manger of banks, we are all here to make profit for living.

We all have family and we don' t want to make huge losses.

Whatever positions you are now, please square off soon.

At this price of 3.70 there is nothing much to gain whether it goes up or down a little, but huge losses if it goes quickly in either directions

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If we track back SIA share prices since the beginning of 1990' s, it went as high as $19 and down as low as $8. Yahoo' s chart probably had adjusted the price according to buy back' s and dilution over the years.
Though SIA is a cyclical stocks, of course it has been on a down trend since the pandemic, it had also been a good divident stock.
I don t really understand the buy backs and issuing of share options, but somehow, there are benefits to the share price.
As the share options are issued, eg now at 3.72, it gives an option for directors to buy the share at 3.72 in the future. This means 3.72 is a very good future support.
Share buy backs and issue of dividents is another way of paying shareholders.

The company can make losses, but can also pledge planes to borrow money. The base pay for its empolyees can be low and payment is via bonuses, which comes from work or through dividents in the case for directors.
The company can borrow against its assets and pay its shareholders dividents. Bear in mind Tamesek is a major shareholder and having invested huge amount in SIA, will want some returns.

There you are, we have a scheme for SIA shareholders

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While the directors of SIA have to be responsible for its shareholders, I am extremely disappointed with shareholders at CIMB..They did a bullish call at the beginning when the shares were around $4.38, then they have been dumping their share almost every day. CiMB shareholders contributed to the heaviest selling of SIA shares..Then the other banks like UBS, Morgan Stanley. Despite brokers calling sell, I hardly bought any shares from local brokers except when it fell from 3.95. That time almost every brokers cut. Even if shareholders have to sell their shares to raise cash, is it a bit too much when share price is cutting into your cost price? Do you really want to sell everything?

investor999 ( Date: 18-Jul-2020 19:54) Posted:

Good. Now I understand you.

For now SIA is only hold. no more buying or selling as the banks just swing the price up and down suka suka.

No matter how they do it, they can' t shake any more shares out if we keep still

Monday may swing down to 3.62 or may swing up to 3.78. Just ?????

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Good. Now I understand you.

For now SIA is only hold. no more buying or selling as the banks just swing the price up and down suka suka.

No matter how they do it, they can' t shake any more shares out if we keep still

Monday may swing down to 3.62 or may swing up to 3.78. Just ?????

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I kind of agree with you. Noticed all the directors sold most of their shares before the rights issue. They profited from shareholders and then received share options now. This is not correct. All their employees suffered payout.. but directors though cut pay gained from the sale of their shares.

SAVIORFOREVER ( Date: 17-Jul-2020 18:26) Posted:

CEO should cut pay by 80% for 2020 due to very poor performance of the company.
Also, whoever responsible for the wrong hedging should be fired.

Trade with pay cut and staff trimming