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The symptoms of covid ranges from mild to severe, vaccines supposed to prevent all of these

Some only shows mild whereas some progress to have severe illness requiring hospitalisation, icu, intubation etc etc

tritonyeah6666 ( Date: 08-May-2021 20:50) Posted:

Yep. I know the carrier part. Didn't know the prevent symptoms part. Quite scary indeed. Maciam Covid goes stealth mode

Blowyouoff ( Date: 08-May-2021 19:54) Posted:

Bro, I said ' one of the main objective' of vaccination is to prevent symptoms. Vaccination also has other objective, as mentioned by you.

unknown to most people, a vaccinated person can still be carrier and can still pass the covid to another person. Vaccination can be seen as double edge sword, on one hand it protects. On the other hand, it masks the symptoms of covid and thus if a vaccinated person got covid, he/she doesn' t present any symptoms but could be a carrier. He can walk pass screener without being detected because he won' t have fever.

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Bro, I said ' one of the main objective' of vaccination is to prevent symptoms. Vaccination also has other objective, as mentioned by you.

unknown to most people, a vaccinated person can still be carrier and can still pass the covid to another person. Vaccination can be seen as double edge sword, on one hand it protects. On the other hand, it masks the symptoms of covid and thus if a vaccinated person got covid, he/she doesn' t present any symptoms but could be a carrier. He can walk pass screener without being detected because he won' t have fever.

tritonyeah6666 ( Date: 08-May-2021 18:27) Posted:

Hmm, is that correct? Vaccine is to prevent us from having the symptoms? I thought is to prevent ppl from being critically ill due to body munting defense against virus. Nevertheless, if yes, does it mean that we will see more & more silent transmission & infections as majority (assuming most ppl vaccinated) no longer show symptoms? And can only be detected thru proactive screening? That sounds scary

Blowyouoff ( Date: 08-May-2021 14:30) Posted:

Bro, all the vaccines company didn' t promise 100% success rate.. what we are seeing are expected base on published result. This few numbers happened to be those few % who are not protected despite being vaccinated. One of the reason why they are protected despite being vaccinated could be their body did not produce sufficient antibodies.

also, there wil be more asymptomatic cases once they do more routine screening. Vaccinated patients could potentially be carrier but because of the vaccination, they do not present symptoms(this is one of the main objective of the vaccination which is to prevent us from having the symptoms

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Too early to say this bro.. thus it' s inevitable that every company who wants to grow has to consolidate?

hem2998 ( Date: 08-May-2021 17:42) Posted:

It's inevitable. I didnt say when. If you want to grow your company and want to attract insti funds, then it needs to look the part. Optics are everything. No one is putting money into SY now as its a micro penny. Only speculators and high risk rollers. It still has to prove itself with profits. The next 2 quarters will be very important to garner confidence. Also it has a bad background...toxic bonds and the ABL saga. My prediction is it will have to consolidate ..be it 10:1 or 20:1 or 100:1 is up to the company. I've been vested since it was 0.001 and been buying more as the story unfolds. We are in a good phase now and the momentum has just started to build. All the best.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 08-May-2021 17:01) Posted:

Seriously bro, the hedge fund is only established in may 2021 and it' s too far fetched to talk about share consolidation at this point. It' s a company in a juvenile stage and even if share consolidate to make it doesn' t look like penny, will you invest your money into it? It has to establish itself as a reputable in this field first before even planning for share consolidation

that' s why I question the initial person who said share consolidation is ' inevitable' . Not sure what' s his intention but he hasn' t answered to my query. Ain' t sure if his intention is to strike fear in investors because share consolidation is not necessary a good thing for existing investors.

In the short run, SY just have to focus on what' s it' s good at and naturally price should go up. Who knows, there might not be any need for share consolidation in order to lure institutional investor

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Seriously bro, the hedge fund is only established in may 2021 and it' s too far fetched to talk about share consolidation at this point. It' s a company in a juvenile stage and even if share consolidate to make it doesn' t look like penny, will you invest your money into it? It has to establish itself as a reputable in this field first before even planning for share consolidation

that' s why I question the initial person who said share consolidation is ' inevitable' . Not sure what' s his intention but he hasn' t answered to my query. Ain' t sure if his intention is to strike fear in investors because share consolidation is not necessary a good thing for existing investors.

In the short run, SY just have to focus on what' s it' s good at and naturally price should go up. Who knows, there might not be any need for share consolidation in order to lure institutional investors

CheongArgh ( Date: 08-May-2021 14:27) Posted:

Errrrr.....let' s just say that I' m looking for a hedge fund company to manage my funds. If the share px of that HF company is trading at micro pennies, I' ll think twice about it. Believed that there' s an urgent need for SY to prop up their share px soon if they will want to do it right for this hedge fund co. And like some of you put it, consolidation will soon follows once the px is prop up.....

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Bro, all the vaccines company didn' t promise 100% success rate.. what we are seeing are expected base on published result. This few numbers happened to be those few % who are not protected despite being vaccinated. One of the reason why they are protected despite being vaccinated could be their body did not produce sufficient antibodies.

also, there wil be more asymptomatic cases once they do more routine screening. Vaccinated patients could potentially be carrier but because of the vaccination, they do not present symptoms(this is one of the main objective of the vaccination which is to prevent us from having the symptoms)

des_khor ( Date: 08-May-2021 09:30) Posted:

Think the vaccine not effective as we can see local case from TTSH how many of them are doctors and nurses who already received 2 doses !

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For local catalyst company trying to get into mainboard, they need to satisfy SGX MTP of 20 cents and thus share consolidation is inevitably necessary

WiseInvestor ( Date: 07-May-2021 18:33) Posted:

Share consolidation is necessary to meet the requirement of institutional investors, saying at least 10 cents per share. No worry, really no loss of value arising from share consolidation. Assuming 10:1 consolidation to 10 cents, the issued capital will be 3.2 billion shares at 10 cents instead of 32 billion shares at 1 cent.

SY consist of three biz segments: Gold mining, Investing and private equity and hedge fund. Millionaire to Billionaire Tycoons need to be secured first to provide stable income for SY in the last two latters.

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Bro, this is text book and Google and you will find all the answers.

to attract institutional investors, the consolidation makes the ' penny' looks more attractive too..

am asking him what mades him so certain to come up with his ' prognosis' that it' s ' inevitable' for share consolidation for SY

WiseInvestor ( Date: 07-May-2021 18:33) Posted:

Share consolidation is necessary to meet the requirement of institutional investors, saying at least 10 cents per share. No worry, really no loss of value arising from share consolidation. Assuming 10:1 consolidation to 10 cents, the issued capital will be 3.2 billion shares at 10 cents instead of 32 billion shares at 1 cent.

SY consist of three biz segments: Gold mining, Investing and private equity and hedge fund. Millionaire to Billionaire Tycoons need to be secured first to provide stable income for SY in the last two latters.

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You use this term and you asking me who is BB? From your remark, I thought you know better

ETLee8 ( Date: 07-May-2021 16:22) Posted:

Who is BBs?

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 14:49) Posted:

' How u know which party is doing this ? Chng Kay or BBs ?'

above remark from you yesterday, you think BB is manipulating..

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His ' prognosis' is interesting because he uses to word ' inevitable'

If a patient has cancer, it' s inevitable this patient has to either go through chemo or surgery or else the patient cannot live long

i wonder what' s the consequence to Shen Yao if it doesn' t share conso, that he uses the word ' inevitable' .. maybe 2998 can enlighten us regarding his ' prognosis'

bobdog ( Date: 07-May-2021 17:30) Posted:

Join us long la.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 17:22) Posted:

Serious ah? Can explain to me why ah? I am really interested what makes you give this prediction....

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Actually I am long... that' s why querying his share consolidation' s ' prognosis' ....

bobdog ( Date: 07-May-2021 17:30) Posted:

Join us long la.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 17:22) Posted:

Serious ah? Can explain to me why ah? I am really interested what makes you give this prediction....

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Serious ah? Can explain to me why ah? I am really interested what makes you give this prediction....

hem2998 ( Date: 07-May-2021 14:39) Posted:

share consolidation is inevitable

newbieliu ( Date: 07-May-2021 14:39) Posted:

impossible to be 2 dollars in these few years right it will be crazy for me who held it since 0.002 mmmm

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' How u know which party is doing this ? Chng Kay or BBs ?'

above remark from you yesterday, you think BB is manipulating..

ETLee8 ( Date: 07-May-2021 13:49) Posted:

1,000,001 AND ABOVE 22 0.26 401,910,996

There are 22 big shareholders (each less than 5%) holding a total of $401,910,996 shares or 73.2%.shares.
These are the likely ones controlling the prices not BBs.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 13:34) Posted:

Bro, can see from your comment you believe BB can manipulate prices. If you are such a believer of Bb, why need to look at such detailed information? Just have to know what BB will do is sufficient.. I am sure you agree BB won' t look at such detailed information from the fact that many counters go up without having any positive P& L to show case

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Bro, can see from your comment you believe BB can manipulate prices. If you are such a believer of Bb, why need to look at such detailed information? Just have to know what BB will do is sufficient.. I am sure you agree BB won' t look at such detailed information from the fact that many counters go up without having any positive P& L to show case

ETLee8 ( Date: 07-May-2021 13:18) Posted:

Bro,
They are very elusives. Even their Corporate Presentation for their fy2020 annual report is vague.
There is no breakdown by items. Only breakdowns by business segments, which is Hospital services 4%, Trading n distribution 8%, Manufacturing 88%.
There is no mention of what is being sold (basically all are lump in as PPEs) and how much was sold.
Mentioned in general masks, N95, coveralls, isolations gowns, and gloves are all classified as PPEs.
Elusive because it is difficult to figure out where their major impact on profitability/loss comes from.
Will hv to assume that Mask, Coveralls and Isolation gowns are their primary products.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 12:31) Posted:

Bro, Medtec doesn' t rely on surgical mask alone.. core business are in medical needs and I believe their main clientele are still hospitals

your observation of reduction in 3-ply no doubt is correct but I think you underestimated world population

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Bro, is there a requirement by SGX that they have to show breakdown? If there isn' t, what is the problem?

also, if one feels such information is important for one' s assessment of whether one wishes to invest in Medtec, I guess one has to read the annual report throughly to assess

recently someone commented there is rumour Singapore hospital place a big order for Medtec, perhaps hoping to mislead others.. but those who read the annual report will know medtec supplies to more than 30 countries. Singapore is probably the smallest client

ETLee8 ( Date: 07-May-2021 13:18) Posted:

Bro,
They are very elusives. Even their Corporate Presentation for their fy2020 annual report is vague.
There is no breakdown by items. Only breakdowns by business segments, which is Hospital services 4%, Trading n distribution 8%, Manufacturing 88%.
There is no mention of what is being sold (basically all are lump in as PPEs) and how much was sold.
Mentioned in general masks, N95, coveralls, isolations gowns, and gloves are all classified as PPEs.
Elusive because it is difficult to figure out where their major impact on profitability/loss comes from.
Will hv to assume that Mask, Coveralls and Isolation gowns are their primary products.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 12:31) Posted:

Bro, Medtec doesn' t rely on surgical mask alone.. core business are in medical needs and I believe their main clientele are still hospitals

your observation of reduction in 3-ply no doubt is correct but I think you underestimated world population

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Read their latest announcement and see their website for the list of PPE

latest announcement says they setting up new manufacturing facility for PPE, and it didn' t say they set up for masks..

if base on masks alone to judge Medtec' s biz, it' s wrong

also, it' s true it' s challenging for them to have growth over last year because last year was exceptionally good, but as long as their subsequent years sales going to be higher than pre COVID significantly, this is more than sufficient for the company. There isn' t a need to solely benchmark against last year...

zandlery ( Date: 07-May-2021 12:49) Posted:

Just curious what other product they sell as covid-19 sensitive as the mask?

Blowyouoff ( Date: 07-May-2021 12:31) Posted:

Bro, Medtec doesn' t rely on surgical mask alone.. core business are in medical needs and I believe their main clientele are still hospitals

your observation of reduction in 3-ply no doubt is correct but I think you underestimated world population

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Bro, Medtec doesn' t rely on surgical mask alone.. core business are in medical needs and I believe their main clientele are still hospitals

your observation of reduction in 3-ply no doubt is correct but I think you underestimated world population.

ETLee8 ( Date: 07-May-2021 11:18) Posted:

Some info for consumption. My perspectives.
In Sg most people purchase 3-ply mask for 5cts per piece ($10 for 250 pieces), in Taiwan the people wear surgical mask when going out. The cost of surgical mask is 20cts per piece. They only use the 3-ply mask at home.
Many countries can not afford surgical mask, some even not the 3-ply mask.
The cost has gone down tremendous from last year' s peak.
Sales volumes could hv gone up, but profitability likely has come down.
Besides, many countries have started their own factories like SG ST, Temasek Foundation,
Hence Medtecs profitability will be seriously impacted going forward.
Of course it is a no brainer situation and management is fully aware and perhaps they already hv done forward planning as to where they can make the most money out of it. DYODD pls

superstartup ( Date: 07-May-2021 10:48) Posted:

If there is a briefing on the result, guys here should go squeeze Mgt on their forward guidance.
I said this cause there are always tell-tale signs on their forward guidance statement.
Last year, their forward guidances is on BOTH revenue and profit.
This time round only talk about revenue only.

Trade with care.

Not vested.

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Another recent good example is livingstone. If you know the background, you will know why it chose the RTO route.

smallsgshare ( Date: 05-May-2021 08:14) Posted:

I agree with your point. Another sgx company YuuZoo was listed through RTO as an example. Wish MCP is not so bad.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 05-May-2021 07:50) Posted:

Usually a biz that goes through RTO is so call going via ' back door' .... no doubt it' s cheaper to go via RTO, there are various other reasons why some company go via RTO, and you probably can guess why some have to resort to go via RTO...

A listing that went through the normal proper process will certainly offer good faith

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Within months of RTO and now it' s internal dispute. What does this says about the management?

look@bright ( Date: 05-May-2021 08:04) Posted:

Bro agree with you on RTO ' ' backdoor' ' . This Artivision/MC Payment RTO took 3 years and is probably history in making in SGX for the longest time it took for a RTO and the most expensive in professional fees. Funny right?

Why RTO when IPO is faster when it can be done in 12 months?

Anyway hope MCP won' t be like ' ' Ayondo' ' an IPO stock as you mentioned which certainly offer good faith.

Blowyouoff ( Date: 05-May-2021 07:50) Posted:

Usually a biz that goes through RTO is so call going via ' back door' .... no doubt it' s cheaper to go via RTO, there are various other reasons why some company go via RTO, and you probably can guess why some have to resort to go via RTO...

A listing that went through the normal proper process will certainly offer good faith

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Usually a biz that goes through RTO is so call going via ' back door' .... no doubt it' s cheaper to go via RTO, there are various other reasons why some company go via RTO, and you probably can guess why some have to resort to go via RTO...

A listing that went through the normal proper process will certainly offer good faith

Ligaya ( Date: 04-May-2021 09:28) Posted:

this has nothing to do with the RTO sentiment
there is something to fight for here

Blowyouoff ( Date: 04-May-2021 00:53) Posted:

If you can recall my comment in Feb, I had quite bad vibe about this counter ever since the RTO. Still the same stand now. Even at this price which is almost 40% drop from Feb, I still won' t touch it..

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Your damage control method is quite amazing... but I don' t see any link to what you just said and how it explains your fake news..... Are you saying your vocal(fake news) is a result of blame pushin by G?

gregtan123 ( Date: 04-May-2021 15:02) Posted:

Actually independent of my medtecs holdings, one of the main reasons why im so vocal and always shout red etc is because I cannot stand the mainstream media, our G and most Sgreans who keep blaming Singaporeans for being lax hence we got community out break. the truth is the SG Govt and their Open Leg/Lax Border Control. Also in a Pandemic, the rich (elites) get richer whilst most the poor get poorer, hence peacxe out. those who hate Greg, carry on. I have made enough from Medtecs that I am in a NO Loss position. As I said, Medtecs go Zero , I also accept.

relax, peace out. please also blame the G and not Singaporeans.

ec0101 ( Date: 04-May-2021 14:01) Posted:

It is anyone' s guess... but my guess would be there is a lapse in protocols... People getting lax due to vaccination or maybe its just covid fatigue (people no longer following safe distancing nor wearing masks properly