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value is given by market , no one know what will happen. this is all your guessing .
destinykraze ( Date: 08-May-2019 14:22) Posted:
I could obviously tell you are new to investing in stocks.
Share prices, especially those that are high on momentum(often overvalued) are determined by their potential earnings.
If you see it' s potential earnings and profit cut by 2/3, it would not be surprising to see their share price drop by 50%.
You can have a billion dollar company but if their profit drop by 50%, they also suffer similar. How would BW be any better?
1035834 ( Date: 08-May-2019 13:27) Posted:
| they now in net cash position and their fixed cost is quite low , worst case scenario just turn back to export model if franchise cant work , unless is products problem |
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they now in net cash position and their fixed cost is quite low , worst case scenario just turn back to export model if franchise cant work , unless is products problem.
Leehonghng ( Date: 08-May-2019 13:17) Posted:
You are not right, the Chinese Authorities already go after them, this will be another hyflux saga!
softdrink ( Date: 08-May-2019 12:57) Posted:
Best world would not be in trouble with the authorities. They already mentioned that they have nothing to do with the franchisee. Those in legal trouble are those franchisees.
From what I had interpreted, most likely is that BW has already known what those franchisee are doing or even maybe, they are the ones operating those franchisee under different names.
That said however, if in the event the franchisee are being caught and having trouble paying, they would write off the profit as bad debt since BW has already recorded the sales once shipment is out even they had yet to collect the money. |
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those long and short should be very nervous now ...answer will be reveal
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Asset should be the recipe of Drs , certain asset is intangible , like their network in other countries, members etc...it is not really appropriate to use net asset value to value this company as their asset required to operate the business is very little.
sbscap ( Date: 07-May-2019 14:06) Posted:
| BWI assets are mainly cash. Cash net of payables about $100m, divided by 550m shares is about $0.18. Book/share is $0.21. It' s a long way down using book value as a guide. |
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Every time to extend need valid reason to apply for extension, so it is not only results announcement for this round, some materials information or things will be happened soon
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(1) The Exchange may at any time grant a trading halt to enable the issuer to disclose material information or suspend trading of the listed securities of an issuer at the request of the issuer. The Exchange is not required to act on the request.
(2) The trading halt cannot exceed 3 market days or such short extension as the Exchange agrees.
(3) A trading halt may be changed to a suspension by the Exchange at any time.
1035834 ( Date: 07-May-2019 13:14) Posted:
they may be learned from Olam or China Minzhong how to fight with those seller report ,there might be a privatisation offer or it might be big support coming , you thought so easier to apply trading halt to SGX ? they should have shown something to SGX......
Leehonghng ( Date: 07-May-2019 12:56) Posted:
| Under the current SGX rules & Regulations, the subject company is NOT allowed to be de-listed, moreover, the subject company is facing a lot of un-cleared accounts/business profile/problems/queries they only can wait and wait ....... They're buying times! |
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they may be learned from Olam or China Minzhong how to fight with those seller report ,there might be a privatisation offer or it might be big support coming , you thought so easier to apply trading halt to SGX ? they should have shown something to SGX......
Leehonghng ( Date: 07-May-2019 12:56) Posted:
Under the current SGX rules & Regulations, the subject company is NOT allowed to be de-listed, moreover, the subject company is facing a lot of un-cleared accounts/business profile/problems/queries they only can wait and wait ....... They're buying times!
beng1102 ( Date: 07-May-2019 12:29) Posted:
| Very true! One of the possiblities that could explain why the 9.5 days halt |
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Relist in other places and if this type of criticism continue , not good for their brand name . They may no need to list anymore if really good profit business.
Justice888 ( Date: 04-May-2019 21:43) Posted:
Best world advertise themselves as a Singapore public listed company to sell themselves in China. And wat good will they get to delist ? Actually the price of the share got no impact on the directors . They are not selling the shares . Even if the share price drop below $1 . They will still continue the biz and collecting salaries lor.
1035834 ( Date: 04-May-2019 21:15) Posted:
| To me , I foresee it is very likely will be a privatisation offer, as they drag till result announcement , as offeror normally will release result follow by offer announcement. |
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To me , I foresee it is very likely will be a privatisation offer, as they drag till result announcement , as offeror normally will release result follow by offer announcement.
dyingcat ( Date: 04-May-2019 20:26) Posted:
We can expect 1Q result will be fantastic. They keep extending TH just because they want the 1Q result to help minimize the impacts.
dyingcat ( Date: 04-May-2019 19:48) Posted:
Best World will release Q1 result on 8 May, and extend trading halt till 9 May, 9am.
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Maybe now preparing offer doc ....
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i highly suspect they are going to privatise this company , otherwise no need halt for so long
runaway ( Date: 04-May-2019 08:11) Posted:
The fact that BW requires for 3+5 days extension to answer a simple attack in the press speaks poorly of the company.
The Board and the management team should have ready answers at their fingers tips.
Using trading halt to temporary stop the bleeding may backfire when the trading is lifted.
BW will need to issue a very just and convincing announcement by Monday.
Otherwise, it would not be fair to those who wanted to get out but prevented from doing so because of the trading halt.
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that one queue for meaningless, everyone know they resume trading next week
warrenbuffet2018 ( Date: 03-May-2019 16:57) Posted:
hello, the BWI gray market now is tradingn at $1.36, everyday get lower.
Monday i expect $1 (BELOW)
beng1102 ( Date: 03-May-2019 10:02) Posted:
| Even if u can buy back in some other markets with cash the price would be very high as this is opportunity for the sellers to make as u must buy or get punished |
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i know doesnt mean much but it did not make sense a company doing a proper business for past 20 years and because of entering a new market and suddenly involved all kind of illegal activities.Assume the profit is real , if i am the major shareholders , i definitely get it privatise to protect the wealth and this is a cash cow business , why i still need share with others. If it is fraud , it will be more likely to be privatised as really very few shares in market and it is good way to kill shortist. Just like China Minzhong, who go for privatise after kena attacked . you never know who is in this game .
sbscap ( Date: 03-May-2019 15:32) Posted:
Longevity doesn' t mean much. Think of Lehman ... founded in 1850. Again, it is the contents of the reports that matters, which seem serious. A casual observer would think that something seriously could be wrong, particularly when there is a long trading halt after an earlier trading halt over basically the same thing. Bulls remain bulls, some even dreaming of privatization of BWL.
1035834 ( Date: 03-May-2019 14:40) Posted:
| One company with twenty over years history can be destroyed by few reports ? let see how. if you look back this company history, it is slowly growth in first few years but high growth after entering into china market , i still dont think they will do all illegal things, thier senior/ management staffs with them all is 10 years plus, if this company really playing money game / piramid scheme , then they are really in professional level especially survive in singapore this type of law by law country. It is still possible to go for privatisation as in term of number of shareholders, top 39 shareholders control more than 85% of company share, if they are the gang , they sure go for privatisation to protect themselves for any legal law sue. |
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One company with twenty over years history can be destroyed by few reports ? let see how. if you look back this company history, it is slowly growth in first few years but high growth after entering into china market , i still dont think they will do all illegal things, thier senior/ management staffs with them all is 10 years plus, if this company really playing money game / piramid scheme , then they are really in professional level especially survive in singapore this type of law by law country. It is still possible to go for privatisation as in term of number of shareholders, top 39 shareholders control more than 85% of company share, if they are the gang , they sure go for privatisation to protect themselves for any legal law sue.
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Sgx just help to close the trade , you can see the lending pools for BWL is negative mean over borrowing .After resume trading , SGX still need to buy back from market and charge to short seller .
beng1102 ( Date: 02-May-2019 15:12) Posted:
SGX buy in Best World qty 398,300 shares on April 26, 2019. How can SGX force buy in on this day when trading is halted.?
1035834 ( Date: 02-May-2019 14:44) Posted:
| Actually sgx is more like a casino rather than a place for company to raise fund . The main income for their business is from derivative and not from the listing fee |
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Actually sgx is more like a casino rather than a place for company to raise fund . The main income for their business is from derivative and not from the listing fee .
joker123 ( Date: 02-May-2019 12:16) Posted:
SGX is a place whereby the BBs get to get the retailers and the retailers eat retailer. Never Long in SGX and this is my advice. Do anyone think the companies in SGX can substain the business. Lets not talk about bank and properties stock. Look at other counters, i can say 90% of the counters are below the IPO price. SGX SUCKs . Go invest other exchange. SGX is a no hope exchange. High pay executive but can never delivers.
Look at How many Ex Blue chips collapse. NOBLE , Hyflux, NOL and ..... Anyone who still believe investment in stock and have return in the long run in SGX are just deluding themselves. the pioneers have learn their lesson i hope the newbies do not follow the mistake. KEEP your Hard Earn Money rather than let the SO CALL CEO CHEAT your money. this is a SHORT EXchange.
sbscap ( Date: 02-May-2019 09:56) Posted:
| Many thanks to contributors like sin_cos_tan, joker123, etc. I learned alot although I' m not vested in BW, long or short. I also realized that it can be extremely hard for people to change their view, so much so that bulls and bears hold their firm grounds, making debates pointless in a certain sense. That' s why a longer suspension, which in theory help people to reflect, is not useful if no new materials are given for people to analyze. Incidentally, I managed to go to Baidu to find out more from Chinese sources. It is not the best of the world in terms of feedback. Good luck to all. |
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This amount of money to those rich in China is nothing , one set of product around 2-3 thousand sgd , you no need sell many sets to achieve. As Long as service those rich only would be good enough
like2learn ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:04) Posted:
Thanks for sharing the real life experience of BW pdts and their sales process. I also believe they are a proper ethnical co. 
But given the competitive landscape, esp in China, if BW is also as " passive" , it doesn' t explain how BW can achieve this scale of revenue increase. We have to also consider the fact BW do not use celebrities to advertise or Dr Secret is not SK-II or some well-known famous brands. Moreover, in lower tier cities, the disposable income is not that high - how many end customers can afford long term use of Dr Secret ?
Sen9999 ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 11:07) Posted:
I am a small time investor with tens of lots only 😂 . My wife uses and also has a small downline for the product. Attended some of their seminars as well. Invested during the miraculous rise in price last year. Invested because of the positive feel after visiting them a few times. Even discourage my wife to do due to the low commission scheme. But the products had really changed lives of some of her clients. If any case, nobody can deny their product is really good.
So, I believe to invest in this company, can't just read reports, need to go down and see, have a feel, try to hear how they introduce u the product(usually after skin analysis or health test), no hardselling, no immediate recruitment. The experience feels even better than going to those over the counter product |
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Then few years later only left SGX alone to list if this type of matter can easily caused delist
like2learn ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 20:48) Posted:
I think if drop more than 50% when re-open, will trigger another suspension.
If drop to below 80cents, I am guessing BW mgmt may well decide to delist since there have been too many issues recently and they do not need any capital. In this case, going by recent examples, the delisting price may not be high, and may be justifably so because most people do not believe in DS co, so likely to go thru.
Then, all of us faithful longists cannot huat anymore. 
softdrink ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 17:47) Posted:
Thanks Lee!
Well, I am looking at 1/2 the price or even lower. Anything more than $1.00 is a bonus for those who long. I am not surprise if it goes down to even less than 1/2 the price. Of course, that is my prediction.
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Hope shortlist don&rsquo t let me disappointed , I need you sell cheap cheap to me
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This company already established twenty over years in SG , don&rsquo t think is fraud. Any panic sell is a chance to accumulate, wait you all to dump more 😜 or where got cheap offer
1035834 ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 20:11) Posted:
| Just release announcements, trade halt for another 5 days , I think they may release with 1 q results |
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Just release announcements, trade halt for another 5 days , I think they may release with 1 q results
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